Man 'sexually assaults' woman then throws her and a friend off bridge into ravine at German tourist spot

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https://amp.lbc.co.uk/news/women-thrown-off-bridge-germany-neuschwanstein-castle/

21 year old lost her life because of male
entitlement.
I’m sick of this.

When will this end?
Name the problem.

Yeah... I was going to say, this is a really poor argument.

Even aside from police violence towards women, the fact is that the police and the courts, in many many ways, ensure that sexual violence to women goes unreported and even if reported goes unpunished.

Oh do give it a rest you sound pathetic.

Yes a minority of MN posters hate all men. We get that but that makes you equally as bed for generalising n entire group of people.

Yet there were millions of men the very same day putting bad men away and saving life's of millions of others selfesly. But there not in the news or grabbing the headlines.

Get a bloody grip.

falsepositivenervous
Brilliant posts. Why are so many women apologists for men in general when those men in general don't do anything about other men's terrible behaviour to women?

Looks like some people are on the wine early today.

More men are killed by men than women are killed by men. It's not male entitlement but the fact 'some' men are wired wrong and do that.

I don’t know any men that would sexually assault or abuse a woman. It seems that there are probably men in your life that are like this (hence your hatred of all men), but I personally don’t know any. There are mothers out there who abuse their children. That doesn’t mean that all mothers are cruel.

Anyway, I’m going to focus my thoughts on those two poor young women. One who was killed and the other traumatised for life. That evil man doesn’t deserve to have his identity hidden from the public. I hope he rots in prison and that all the other prisoners beat him up for killing a young woman.

''I don’t know any men that would admit they sexually assault or abuse a woman.''

FTFY.

I was horrified by the news. Those poor girls. I'm sure more will be revealed about the offender in due course.
Why and how do men become such entitled wankers?
These are innocent little boys growing up to have these entitlements. Yet, they all have mothers, the vast majority brought up by mothers and in many cases without fathers, yet its still women taking the brunt.
Logically, the way a lot of men treat their children, it should be other men they hate.
We can't just blame the Internet as that is relatively new. Male entitlement is generationally ingrained.
We all know NAMALT, but yet their influence on others has no impact.

I don't know, but there have always been women who identify very strongly with men no matter what men do to women.Let's not forget plenty of women were anti-suffragists.

I think sometimes it's a very rudimentary form of self preservation, "if I do what men want me to do maybe they won't treat me like they treat the others", a way of keeping one's head under the parapet. That or it's just a desperate desire to be liked by men.

I was sexually assaulted as a teen. I didn’t really know him. It was an incredibly traumatising and horrific experience (it wasn’t just something simple like a hand on the bum; it was a serious attack). However, all the men in my life (family and friends) wouldn’t harm a woman. It’s really sad that a lot of women on Mumsnet hate all men. If I, a survivor, can see that then maybe you should too. It’s all about upbringing and ensuring boys and girls respect one another so they respect one another as adults.

OP,

This is the consequence of mental illness.

Has very little to do with male or female.

You're not surprising anyone on this thread (well, some maybe) that men are violent. We know. We're all commenting on a thread about a violent man who murdered a young woman after sexually assaulting her.

Men kill men too? How does that help all these "nOt aLL mEn" comments?

@SunnySun1 nobody thinks they know an abuser or a rapist until all of a sudden it turns out they do.

You don't see mentally ill women going about the place sexually assaulting men and murdering them. This is a male issue, not a mental health issue.

death penalty now, but only for men, throw them all out of helicopters

@TheThinkingGoblin
What mental illness makes men engage in conversation with women, sexually assault them and then kill them?

I think the headline for all these cases should be "man kills woman". The headlines make them sound like totally different things when really it is the same thing over and over. The headlines about this one are about Cinderella (wtf?)

Yes.

Because mentall illness is much higher for men now vs women.

Denial doesn't help solve this issue.

Women tend to kill their children, although they do also kill men and other women.

Please answer my question and name the mental illness you are talking about that makes men attack women. Is it a mental illness that only affects men?

I'll bet you a pound to a penny that at least one of your adult sons and the vast majority of their lovely friends watch porn. Don't kid yourself.

Don't even want to read the story. I will but not right now, I feel sick reading this thread.
Those poor women. Fucking hell, those poor poor women.

I love many men, the one I'm engaged to, all of my many sons.
A few friends of mine.
But I know more men who would harm a woman than protect her, so I'm quite happy to say I hate men.
Not wild on women's behaviour at times, really unimpressed, but I wouldn't say I hate women.
A friend of my father (despicable creature) was a cab driver who raped a teenager, he threw her out in a rural area, but returned an hour later to collect her (early 90s, days before mobile phones) she was raped a second time.
Even though the friend of my father was jailed for 2 counts of rape, the other drivers (gossiping bastards they were) would say to anyone who'd listen, "why did she get back in his car if she was raped? She just shagged him and got him in shit" even though no teenager wants to fuck an old fat grandad, she was just scared about being left in a fucking wooded area at night. And she was also very drunk.
Not a single fucking driver said, "you know what, he's a fucking rapist and he deserves the punishment he received.
I wonder, if she'd have been related (NOT THAT WE SHOULD HAVE TO BE DAUGHTERS OR SISTERS OR WIVES OR MOTHERS TO NOT BE BEATEN, RAPED OR MURDERED) but had that teenager been the daughter of a cabbie, would she still have just been some drunk girl up for a shag with a man who looked like an XL bully licking piss off nettles?
And I often come to the conclusion - to them, probably.

This is so sadly true, you never really know what a person is capable of and it can totally blindside you. Causes absolute turmoil in families as well, with some parties just refusing to believe even with the perpetrator sitting in prison.

OK, but actually you probably do.

Long term board DV charity board member and volunteer here. You would be horrified if you knew how prevalent violence and especially sexual violence is among pensioners, students, the successful businessman who lives next to you and drinks far far too much and then takes coke when something doesn't go his way, that nice man with the partner who just seems so quiet compared to him...

You think men aren't appalled by these crimes? They have daughters , sisters , wives etc. They are actually the ones who in the majority are bringing these criminals to justice , they are largely the police and law enforcers far more than women.

We'd only need a fraction of those police and law enforcers if men got their act together and started behaving decently. Imagine what we could focus our energy and resources on then.

As a class of people, I'm sick of them.

That’s a fucking stupid question to ask. We have entire prisons full of the criminally insane who have murdered women after raping/sexually assaulting them. A few dozen are even serial killers.

You know there are tons of mental illnesses that are associated with murder, so why ask such a question?