Man 'sexually assaults' woman then throws her and a friend off bridge into ravine at German tourist spot

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https://amp.lbc.co.uk/news/women-thrown-off-bridge-germany-neuschwanstein-castle/

21 year old lost her life because of male
entitlement.
I’m sick of this.

When will this end?
Name the problem.

Exactly. So not so decent after all. In fact, all men benefit in general from the fact that women live under the threat and the reality of misogynistic violence.

i am pretty sure that German law will take the position that he should be tried in Germany. It is possible I suppose that the law of the US state or states where the victims were domiciled might also take the view that their courts have jurisdiction. Seems likely though that they will just let the German process go forward. He might be transferred to serve any sentence back home if there’s arrangements in place which permit that between US and Germany.
could be civil claims in US by victim/ victims families too.

My mum, a victim of DV, told me that (some) men despise women, nothing i ve seen in my almost 60 years makes me believe otherwise.

But what can men do, so much is to do with failings in Education, Health care and MH in particular.

But ultimately, in most cases its women who do the majority of the childcare, thats on us.

Jeez. I had to check this isn't some weird ultra-feminist corner of MN, but no , it is AIBU.

I am the mother of 2 adult sons who are lovely, and so are their friends. Young men who are deeply shocked by news stories like this, who call out sexism and misogyny when they encounter it. And I don't believe they are exceptional.

Of course there are some terrible men out there, but there are many decent ones.

You think men aren't appalled by these crimes? They have daughters , sisters , wives etc. They are actually the ones who in the majority are bringing these criminals to justice , they are largely the police and law enforcers far more than women.

That's a shame. I fear that he will get 15 years in Germany and will be released after 8 years for good conduct.

Whereas in the US he would get a much harsher sentence.

Shocking isnt it? Imagine a man saying that about a woman , or about a person of colour. Absolute hate

Maddy after the Sarah Everett case among others a lot of women probably don't trust the police anyway because they are mostly men.

This is horrific

Those poor women

What men warn their daughters against other men? My husband and my make friends are always welcoming and kind to boyfriends that they meet of their girlfriends. I don't recall ever hearing them being warned off men....

this is so obvious that im embarrassed (on your behalf) that it has to be pointed out; in the case of women or POC there would be no evidence to back the statement up. The fact that the huge majority of violent and sexual offences in every human society are committed by men is well documented, by contrast.
those pesky tiresome facts eh

Valid argument darlin'

Really?

I guess you’ve turned a wilful blind eye towards the rapes, assaults, even murder of women committed by members of our police forces? As for their watchdog: https://news.sky.com/story/ex-police-watchdog-chief-michael-lockwood-charged-with-raping-girl-under-16-and-indecent-assault-12903509

Yes!

You think men aren't appalled by these crimes? They have daughters , sisters , wives etc. They are actually the ones who in the majority are bringing these criminals to justice , they are largely the police and law enforcers far more than women.

Ah @Maddy70 , do you really even believe that yourself?

Also just FYI, most women who are murdered are murdered by a current or ex intimate partner. Most children who are sexually abused are abused by a family member or close friend of the family. Sibling abuse is far more common that people realise. It's not even that long ago that it was fully legal for men to rape their wives. Men are fully aware that they have wives, sisters, daughters.

The second young woman will probably also die...

Sounds like she actually only has minor injuries as she landed on a fallen tree after only a short distance and managed to keep herself from falling into the ravine.

I suspect a mental illness or insanity defense incoming.

What a horrible awful crime, but as others have said, male on female violence is par for the course sadly.

Ok thank god!

I agree with this. Thankfully it has highlighted lots of failings in the police force a d they are having to make long over due changes

On the NAMALT thing...There was a study done in an American university (Harvard?) years ago that asked men a load of questions about what they would do if they could get away with it, all sex related. It involved things like have sex with a woman who is drunk and passed out. The majority answered yes in at least one question.

Sorry, I will try to find the original article I read but maybe someone else will know more info on it.

Also www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/sexual-assault-male-university-students-uk-b1947837.html

www.huffpost.com/entry/college-men-commit-rape-study_n_6445510

Sorry, it wasn't the majority of men who answered but still a scarily high amount.

I thought absolute hate would be a woman being throw to her death, but nope, it’s women saying ‘bad things’ on Mumsnet 🙄

*thrown