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Man 'sexually assaults' woman then throws her and a friend off bridge into ravine at German tourist spot

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IsThereAnEchoInHere · 16/06/2023 14:46

https://amp.lbc.co.uk/news/women-thrown-off-bridge-germany-neuschwanstein-castle/

21 year old lost her life because of male
entitlement.
I’m sick of this.

When will this end?
Name the problem.

Man 'sexually assaults' woman then throws her and a friend off bridge into ravine at German tourist spot

https://amp.lbc.co.uk/news/women-thrown-off-bridge-germany-neuschwanstein-castle/

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AussiUnHomme · 16/06/2023 18:41

nebulae · 16/06/2023 18:39

You think men aren't appalled by these crimes? They have daughters , sisters , wives etc. They are actually the ones who in the majority are bringing these criminals to justice , they are largely the police and law enforcers far more than women.

We'd only need a fraction of those police and law enforcers if men got their act together and started behaving decently. Imagine what we could focus our energy and resources on then.

As a class of people, I'm sick of them.

Of course we'd only need a fraction of the police we have if criminals didn't do crime. Ffs. Loony thread this.

nebulae · 16/06/2023 18:45

AussiUnHomme · 16/06/2023 18:41

Of course we'd only need a fraction of the police we have if criminals didn't do crime. Ffs. Loony thread this.

Not criminals as a class of people. Men as a class of people. Men commit most of the crimes and almost all of the serious crimes that take up the most resources. So no, I'm not going to be grateful that men step up to do the law enforcement jobs as the poster I quoted suggested.

Wasley · 16/06/2023 18:45

beguilingeyes · 16/06/2023 16:35

Back to Germaine again
“Women have very little idea of how much men hate them"
A lot of men don't like women at all. they like them for sex but not as people.

But men have wives , mothers , sisters nieces and daughters. Some men dislike women , not all .

Thelnebriati · 16/06/2023 18:50

You've made the mistake of thinking that because men have women in their lives, it means they are always respectful.

KateyCuckoo · 16/06/2023 18:51

Mylifeislikeaboatrace · 16/06/2023 16:59

Maddy after the Sarah Everett case among others a lot of women probably don't trust the police anyway because they are mostly men.

Her name is Sarah Everard. Flowers

bluelagoon12 · 16/06/2023 18:54

I have a 2 year old son and a husband who I both love very much.

Pointing out that male violence against women is a pandemic and that there's a lot of violent men around, isn't hatred against men. It's facts.

Wasley · 16/06/2023 18:55

RumNotRun · 16/06/2023 17:45

On the NAMALT thing...There was a study done in an American university (Harvard?) years ago that asked men a load of questions about what they would do if they could get away with it, all sex related. It involved things like have sex with a woman who is drunk and passed out. The majority answered yes in at least one question.

Sorry, I will try to find the original article I read but maybe someone else will know more info on it.

I think that happened a lot more in the past . Nowadays with DNA and women being believed , they would think twice about doing it now .

L3ThirtySeven · 16/06/2023 18:56

bluelagoon12 · 16/06/2023 18:54

I have a 2 year old son and a husband who I both love very much.

Pointing out that male violence against women is a pandemic and that there's a lot of violent men around, isn't hatred against men. It's facts.

It’s not a pandemic. Men aren’t a disease and VAWG is on a long term downward trend.

Thelnebriati · 16/06/2023 18:58

What's you source for that claim?

Wasley · 16/06/2023 18:59

bluelagoon12 · 16/06/2023 18:54

I have a 2 year old son and a husband who I both love very much.

Pointing out that male violence against women is a pandemic and that there's a lot of violent men around, isn't hatred against men. It's facts.

Porn has to answer for this . Girls I work with say their boyfriends pull hair , put hands on their throats but not actually choke them , during sex as if its normal. It's not and I've told them so . I don't think there is such a thing as love making any more it's just cock banging sex .

feellikeanalien · 16/06/2023 19:05

Yes men have wives, daughters, sisters and mothers. Men also rape and murder their wives, daughters, sisters and mothers.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 16/06/2023 19:05

"I don’t know any men that would sexually assault or abuse a woman"

You do though. Even in the very unlikely case that absolutely no man you know in real life have done or would do this you simply don't know about it, I'm sure you can think of plenty of celebrities, politicians and other men in the public eye who have sexually assaulted or abused a woman. Including the last president of the United States FFS! Your nasty little dig to the PP implied it was somehow just her poor quality social circle, but look at how many famous, sucessful men treat women like disposable, worthless things and ask yourself is it really likely that they represent a small minority of men rather than showing behaviour that's just common in men?

IsThereAnEchoInHere · 16/06/2023 19:06

falsepositivenervous · 16/06/2023 18:20

I don't know, but there have always been women who identify very strongly with men no matter what men do to women.Let's not forget plenty of women were anti-suffragists.

I think sometimes it's a very rudimentary form of self preservation, "if I do what men want me to do maybe they won't treat me like they treat the others", a way of keeping one's head under the parapet. That or it's just a desperate desire to be liked by men.

Unfortunately I can't remember who said it, nor the exact quote, but essentially they said that women like these believe they are setting up a place at the table with the men, but in reality the place they are setting is at the floor under men’s feet.

It was incredible quote, I wish I could find it.

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L3ThirtySeven · 16/06/2023 19:06

Thelnebriati · 16/06/2023 18:58

What's you source for that claim?

ONS.
“Over the last two decades the Crime Survey for England and Wales (CSEW) has shown long-term reductions in estimates of violent crime:

  • Victimisation rates have decreased from 4.7% of adults being a victim of violent crime in 1995 to 1.6% in the year ending March 2020; however, rates have remained fairly flat since the year ending March 2014.
  • The total number of incidents has decreased 72% from a peak of 4.5 million incidents in 1995 to 1.2 million incidents in the year ending March 2020; although there was no significant change in the last year, the downward trend has continued in recent years with the number of incidents decreasing 28% compared with the year ending March 2015 (1.7 million incidents).“

The Conversation
“A global homicide decline. Most of the world has experienced a parallel reduction in homicide over the previous three decades.”
”Between 1990 and 2015, in both North America and Western Europe, the number of homicide victims per 100,000 people declined by 46%, while Asia saw a reduction of 38% and Oceania of 22%.
The steepest reductions typically occurred in the safest regions of the world. For example, homicide rates fell further in Asia and Western Europe, which already had the lowest levels of homicide.”

Man 'sexually assaults' woman then throws her and a friend off bridge into ravine at German tourist spot
IsThereAnEchoInHere · 16/06/2023 19:10

TheThinkingGoblin · 16/06/2023 18:22

OP,

This is the consequence of mental illness.

Has very little to do with male or female.

No it’s not.
Women have mh issues too, yet, we’re not anywhere bear as violent, or entitled as men.

It’s the same bs excuse when man turns out to be a pedo, all of sudden it’s poor man, they usually have been sexually assaulted when they were kids themselves.
Yet, girls are assaulted in higher number and there are only very, very few women who sexually abuse kids.

Whenever men commit crimes, the first thing people want to do is roll out excuses.

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BuffyTheCat · 16/06/2023 19:13

Most men say they’re appalled by this kind of thing. The fact that they blame it on individual behaviour, and make no attempt even to challenge offensive jokes, suggests to me that they don’t particularly care about VAWG. I’ve stopped listening to what men say. I’m more interested in how they behave. A very tiny proportion are not like that. Most are a bit pointless.

TheThinkingGoblin · 16/06/2023 19:14

bluelagoon12 · 16/06/2023 18:54

I have a 2 year old son and a husband who I both love very much.

Pointing out that male violence against women is a pandemic and that there's a lot of violent men around, isn't hatred against men. It's facts.

Sure.

But worth stating that the vast majority of emotional abusers are women.

Physical abuse is obviously more overt (and thus more male dominated), but when women complain about this fact and ignore the other side (emotional abuse which causes just as much damage) I tend to roll my eyes.

The vast majority of these incidents are because of a prevailing mental illness that was not diagnosed (pandemic really made this a lot worse) in men.

Its not helpful at all to try to extrapolate from this unique case to "men" in the wider sense.

TheThinkingGoblin · 16/06/2023 19:15

IsThereAnEchoInHere · 16/06/2023 19:10

No it’s not.
Women have mh issues too, yet, we’re not anywhere bear as violent, or entitled as men.

It’s the same bs excuse when man turns out to be a pedo, all of sudden it’s poor man, they usually have been sexually assaulted when they were kids themselves.
Yet, girls are assaulted in higher number and there are only very, very few women who sexually abuse kids.

Whenever men commit crimes, the first thing people want to do is roll out excuses.

Women who have MH issues don't do physical abuse. They go for verbal and emotional abuse.

Not much point in sugar-coating this.

Ifonlyiknewwhat · 16/06/2023 19:16

falsepositivenervous · 16/06/2023 16:10

@Maddy70 if the "vast majority" of men were as kind and loving as you like to think they would have banded together centuries ago to eliminate the behaviour that contributes to a climate of woman hating that leads to events like this. They might even do it in current times.

"Most men" might not do this themselves, but they don't step up and do anything that might actually change society for the better in terms of how women are viewed and treated? Men could very easily stop watching porn, could say something when a friend makes a misogynist joke, when they see another man behaving badly to women around them. Most men won't even take these basic steps.

The bar for men is so unbelievably low that we have women saying "most men wouldn't throw young women over a gorge after trying to rape/assault them", so fucking WHAT. So many women and girls are raped and murdered every single day all around the world, and yet men still need protection from angry women who might hurt their feelings by being enraged at shit male behaviour. I'm just so angry at the state of everything, and women coming along to defend the class of people that are overwhelmingly the rapists and murderers of our class is always just the cherry on top.

And to answer your question, yes, I do hate men as a class, they don't often give much reason for otherwise.

Wow you have put this so well. I agree with you.

Naunet · 16/06/2023 19:17

chupachucks · 16/06/2023 18:03

Oh do give it a rest you sound pathetic.

Yes a minority of MN posters hate all men. We get that but that makes you equally as bed for generalising n entire group of people.

Yet there were millions of men the very same day putting bad men away and saving life's of millions of others selfesly. But there not in the news or grabbing the headlines.

Get a bloody grip.

And then they go home and wank over normalised, everyday violent porn. Why so popular if men are such kind creatures who care about women I wonder?

SunnyEgg · 16/06/2023 19:18

Thelnebriati · 16/06/2023 18:32

Please answer my question and name the mental illness you are talking about that makes men attack women. Is it a mental illness that only affects men?

I’m interested too. What mh diagnosis leads to this

IneedanewTV · 16/06/2023 19:21

I agree with the posters that say that men as a group do nothing to stop this hatred of women. They don’t question their mates, they circulate jokes within their little what’s app groups. Etc. etc.
have you watched “consent” made me hate men and boys.

Naunet · 16/06/2023 19:22

Freefall212 · 16/06/2023 18:31

Women tend to kill their children, although they do also kill men and other women.

What kind of dick pandering handmaid actual writes this on a thread about yet another man, murdering a woman? Seriously, what wrong with you? Why the urge to post that? Are you trying to deflect from male violence for some reason?

3BSHKATS · 16/06/2023 19:25

Freefall212 · 16/06/2023 18:31

Women tend to kill their children, although they do also kill men and other women.

What percentage of women kill their children and other women and men? I cannot remember the last time I actually saw a female killer in the news. Women with mental health issues are more likely to turn the violence against themselves and self harm.

As for emotional abuse, fuck me if we started document in that too against men, I think most of them would be in the clink

HRTQueen · 16/06/2023 19:26

a shocking Incident

it’s not unclear at all he sexually assaulted these poor women then decided to end their lives too

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