Philip Schofield: As far as I am concerned, I no longer have a brother."

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Philip Schofield's brother had now been convicted of sexual abuse with a young boy over a 3 yr period. Horrendous crime. Philip Schofield has now stated "As far as I am concerned, I no longer have a brother.""

Now, it's completely up to Philip how he responds to his brother in what must be a v v stressful time. I cast no judgement whatsoever, and his life in the public eye adds so many new dimensions for him that must be hard to handle.

However, his comments about no longer having a brother really cut deep and made me wonder how I'd react

I adore my siblings and I think (though obviously things might be different if it actually happened) that I couldn't bring myself to disown or abandon my brother's no matter what they did. I can imagine some very limited events which might lead to me not speaking to them for a bit, perhaps a v long time. But I think by and large, no matter what they did, however bad, while there are some things I couldn't forgive and maybe could never understand, I don't think I could disown them. AIBU?

What are your views? Are there some things you absolutely would disown your family for? Are there some generally agreed limits for what a person can tolerate from a family member before they are disowned. Is child abuse the line? Murder?

I suspect this is the case

'Hes an insincere twat'

Are you saying the big coming out on This Morning wasn't genuine I am shocked to my very core!

I love my brother but I'd disown him if he molested children.

Every newspaper article I’ve read about this has stated that PS already knew, but only today have I heard he’s disowning him. If this was genuine he’d have done it when he first heard. This just looks like someone trying to save their career - he’s a vile little man. Surely he can’t bounce back from this?

Disown him at the time he told you he did it, or at the time the public found out he did it though. That's the difference.

Yeah didn’t he know about it about 2 years ago?

I was talking to my adult son about this. He was expressing disgust at PS and we talked about disowning a paedophile relative. I looked at him and said I am not sure I could ever disown him; I was shocked at how strongly I felt.

But in reality, things might be different. Because if he abused a child, he would no longer be the person I know and love. Who knows.

Why all the faux wide eyed wowing op? You sound very disingenuous and like a journo looking for article fodder.

I do absolutely get this, and of course many people would hold this same view and do absolutely hold it and I totally totally get why. Maybe I would be the same. I don't know.

I'm not saying I'd invite them to the family BBQ, or let them babysit. But I couldn't imagine disowning them either - so yes, that would mean visiting them in prison, or in their own bedsit/flat wherever, without my children etc..

And yes I could imagine having a catch up over tea. Not because I'm a horrible person who condones what they have done - I would never condone it or see it as anything other than deplorable and horrendous (if it was child abuse/murder etc..). But, that person is still a person and they r still related to me. And I may be all they have(?)

I think my view is tarnished by having worked with offenders for most of my adult life - including hundreds of sex offenders and many other people who've committed serious crimes. All - without exception - have experienced significant trauma as a child and when you trace the steps back, you can see how they've come to have done what they have done. Like I said - that isn't to condone it or say it wasn't anything but horrendous.

Also, because of my job, I have had many 'catch ups' with people in prison. Not always/often over tea! But sometimes people are not 'all' bad. If it was a sibling, or my son, I just don't know if I could forget the love or memories of the good bits. Plus, I guess, if you are a sibling you may have more inkling than most about what trauma may have contributed to the person sitting before you, who committed the crime(?)

Not quite the same level but my brother was convicted for a DV incident. Flame away but I haven't disowned him. I absolutely think he deserved to be convicted and all he lost as a result.

Exactly!

you can see how they've come to have done what they have done
Don't be ridiculous.

Hmm in my opinion Schofield is saying what he thinks the public want to hear. If he felt he didn’t have a brother he wouldn’t attend court other than to give his statement.

i understand his brother told him way back when. That’s when he should have disowned him

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”And no one has forced you to do this have they Phil”

I'm not a journo!! It's just I was talking about siblings and when the poster mentioned their son it made me think of my own son(s) and that just felt intense. I hadn't thought about how I'd feel if my son did something horrendous. Hence the wow. I think I'd struggle to disown my son. Maybe more than my siblings. It's horrible thinking of that situation. Thankfully (so far) my children are wonderful little people.

Are you kidding? You wouldn’t disown your brother if he turned out to be a paedophile?? I’d disown my brother for cheating on his wife 😂

He’ll bounce back because he has so much dirt on others.

It begs the question - if his brother had been found not guilty, would he ‘still have a brother’

I know many people who’ve been to jail for non sexual or violent crimes and I wouldn’t stop speaking to them over it.

However a sexual crime or violence committed to a child or violence where it was part of abuse (not just a fight outside a pub type thing) would be an absolute deal breaker for me and I would absolutely disown them.

I wouldn’t necessarily want them to die or come to harm (depending on the crime) but just because you’re born into the same family does not mean you have an unconditional loyalty to them.

I completely understand about how an abused child will turn into an abusive adult and that cycle is something that we need to work harder to break. I would also maybe feel a bit of sympathy for them.
But I wouldn’t condone their actions and for many people they are able to take steps to stop themselves from doing any harm.

You say that you would forgive your brother if he had trauma as a child but if you were siblings there is a strong chance that you too would have had trauma but not gone on to abuse children.

As PPs have said, the time to disown him was when his brother told him about it. To do it now is no more than a publicity stunt and an attempt to save face. Vile men, the pair of them.

yeahits the poor innocent phil show again isnt it

he knew already what his brother done why didnt he disown him then

He’s saying it to save his career. He knew I think she’d back and I suspect his brother knows a lot more about PS than he’d want made public.

There’s also a big difference between a woman claiming rape but having absolutely no evidence to suggest they’ve even met vs photographic evidence of themselves abusing children.

If it was definite then I’d disown them without a 2nd thought.

If there were doubts then I couldn’t say unless I was in that situation.

Sexual abuse
child abuse
rape
murder

I would disown my children forever for these