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Philip Schofield: As far as I am concerned, I no longer have a brother."

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DancingWithMashedPotato · 03/04/2023 17:38

Philip Schofield's brother had now been convicted of sexual abuse with a young boy over a 3 yr period. Horrendous crime. Philip Schofield has now stated "As far as I am concerned, I no longer have a brother.""

Now, it's completely up to Philip how he responds to his brother in what must be a v v stressful time. I cast no judgement whatsoever, and his life in the public eye adds so many new dimensions for him that must be hard to handle.

However, his comments about no longer having a brother really cut deep and made me wonder how I'd react

I adore my siblings and I think (though obviously things might be different if it actually happened) that I couldn't bring myself to disown or abandon my brother's no matter what they did. I can imagine some very limited events which might lead to me not speaking to them for a bit, perhaps a v long time. But I think by and large, no matter what they did, however bad, while there are some things I couldn't forgive and maybe could never understand, I don't think I could disown them. AIBU?

What are your views? Are there some things you absolutely would disown your family for? Are there some generally agreed limits for what a person can tolerate from a family member before they are disowned. Is child abuse the line? Murder?

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Wonnle · 03/04/2023 18:45

If it's true about him knowing about his brother doing what he's just been convicted of then ITV should terminate his contract ASAP

OneFrenchEgg · 03/04/2023 18:46

He have a statement didnt he, wasn't actually in court?

60smusic · 03/04/2023 18:47

DancingWithMashedPotato · 03/04/2023 17:38

Philip Schofield's brother had now been convicted of sexual abuse with a young boy over a 3 yr period. Horrendous crime. Philip Schofield has now stated "As far as I am concerned, I no longer have a brother.""

Now, it's completely up to Philip how he responds to his brother in what must be a v v stressful time. I cast no judgement whatsoever, and his life in the public eye adds so many new dimensions for him that must be hard to handle.

However, his comments about no longer having a brother really cut deep and made me wonder how I'd react

I adore my siblings and I think (though obviously things might be different if it actually happened) that I couldn't bring myself to disown or abandon my brother's no matter what they did. I can imagine some very limited events which might lead to me not speaking to them for a bit, perhaps a v long time. But I think by and large, no matter what they did, however bad, while there are some things I couldn't forgive and maybe could never understand, I don't think I could disown them. AIBU?

What are your views? Are there some things you absolutely would disown your family for? Are there some generally agreed limits for what a person can tolerate from a family member before they are disowned. Is child abuse the line? Murder?

This is quite disturbing to read.

So you are saying that if your 13 year old son came to you saying that his uncle, your brother had been raping him, you would not cut your brother off completely, that you would still have catch ups over tea etc

Or is it a case where it's OK, in your eyes, if they rape someone you don't know because it doesn't affect you?

Fortheloveofus · 03/04/2023 18:48

I'm going to admit that I've not read the whole thread, just the OP's comments so apologies if someone has already asked this.
So can I ask you OP, if your brother, dad, uncle or whoever had raped or sexually assaulted your own DC, would that be a step too far? Would you cut them off then or would you still be able to set that to one side, rationalise it and empathise about the reasons why and what events in their life had led them to commit such a crime and continue to visit them in prison and their homes on release?

ComeTheFuckOnBridgett · 03/04/2023 18:48

DancingWithMashedPotato · 03/04/2023 17:38

Philip Schofield's brother had now been convicted of sexual abuse with a young boy over a 3 yr period. Horrendous crime. Philip Schofield has now stated "As far as I am concerned, I no longer have a brother.""

Now, it's completely up to Philip how he responds to his brother in what must be a v v stressful time. I cast no judgement whatsoever, and his life in the public eye adds so many new dimensions for him that must be hard to handle.

However, his comments about no longer having a brother really cut deep and made me wonder how I'd react

I adore my siblings and I think (though obviously things might be different if it actually happened) that I couldn't bring myself to disown or abandon my brother's no matter what they did. I can imagine some very limited events which might lead to me not speaking to them for a bit, perhaps a v long time. But I think by and large, no matter what they did, however bad, while there are some things I couldn't forgive and maybe could never understand, I don't think I could disown them. AIBU?

What are your views? Are there some things you absolutely would disown your family for? Are there some generally agreed limits for what a person can tolerate from a family member before they are disowned. Is child abuse the line? Murder?

What if a brother (or any other man) decided to hurt your children?

JKTrolling · 03/04/2023 18:49

I think Philip is angry that his brother got caught. He’s much more careful if you believe what others say.

StopStartStop · 03/04/2023 18:50

Blistory · 03/04/2023 17:43

It's for show.

He knew what his brother had done and didn't disown him. Now that it's public knowledge, he changes his tune.

Funny that.

This.
If I remember rightly, there was talk about the presenter and a younger man/boy, too. In the papers, about the time he came out as gay.

Inkpotlover · 03/04/2023 18:50

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 03/04/2023 18:17

It begs the question - if his brother had been found not guilty, would he ‘still have a brother’

Er, if the brother had been found not guilty then he'd be innocent! So yes, he would've had no reason to disown him.

RichardHeed · 03/04/2023 18:51

JKTrolling · 03/04/2023 18:49

I think Philip is angry that his brother got caught. He’s much more careful if you believe what others say.

Yup. He’s a nasty fucker

LiliLil · 03/04/2023 18:51

Inkpotlover · 03/04/2023 18:50

Er, if the brother had been found not guilty then he'd be innocent! So yes, he would've had no reason to disown him.

Being found not guilty doesn’t always mean you’re innocent.

TakingMilesFromInches · 03/04/2023 18:52

Inkpotlover · 03/04/2023 18:50

Er, if the brother had been found not guilty then he'd be innocent! So yes, he would've had no reason to disown him.

Er, nor guilty doesn’t mean innocent. He’d told his brother he’d done it before the trial.

Aaaaandbreathe · 03/04/2023 18:52

Inkpotlover · 03/04/2023 18:50

Er, if the brother had been found not guilty then he'd be innocent! So yes, he would've had no reason to disown him.

Being found not guilty isn't the same as being innocent.

All it means is there hasn't been enough evidence to convict which is sadly common in sexual offence cases.

Anyway, his brother already told him about it so the court case shouldn't have mattered.

ReadersD1gest · 03/04/2023 18:52

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Absolutely...

OnedayIwillfeelfree · 03/04/2023 18:53

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Philip Schofield is not a paedophile.

Footymama · 03/04/2023 18:53

As others have said you wouldn’t know how you would react unless it did happen to you.

I know first hand the complexities of a family member being accused / serving time.
Some cases are not always black and white.

JudgeRudy · 03/04/2023 18:54

Americano75 · 03/04/2023 17:43

I'm sure salvaging his career wasn't a motivating factor at all.

Exactly....no, not at all 🙄

ApiratesaysYarrr · 03/04/2023 18:55

Paedophiles will often minimise and lie about what they are being investigated for - I have known a few people who were in the social circle of a paedophile (unwittingly). They were told that it was one or two mild images/text messages to someone they didn't realise was underage etc etc etc, and then in court the whole lot comes out and it's always far far more than they admitted to family and friends/colleagues (in one case it was a dr).

That may be why PS didn't cut him out before?

Tillytrotter67 · 03/04/2023 18:55
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😢For the women telling their stories of abuse. I'm so sorry this happened to you all.

OperationMalena · 03/04/2023 18:55

I think his career will take a hit over this. His brother is a convicted paedo, and PS has his own skeletons.

Aaaaandbreathe · 03/04/2023 18:56

Footymama · 03/04/2023 18:53

As others have said you wouldn’t know how you would react unless it did happen to you.

I know first hand the complexities of a family member being accused / serving time.
Some cases are not always black and white.

I don't know what can be more black and white than child abuse.

Xmasbaby11 · 03/04/2023 18:56

We think of family love as unconditional but it definitely isn't, in my eyes anyway. There are many crimes that would cause me to disown a family member - certainly murder. There's no one I could forgive for that.

Newnamenewname109870 · 03/04/2023 18:57

Op I’d like to think if your brother did any of those things you would absolutely disown him. This is why you get women sticking with guys like that because they are lovely in every other way. It’s grim.

BellePeppa · 03/04/2023 18:58

I’d disown anyone who committed heinous, disgusting, horrific crimes. They would be dead to me.

Inkpotlover · 03/04/2023 18:58

LiliLil · 03/04/2023 18:51

Being found not guilty doesn’t always mean you’re innocent.

In the eyes of the law it is.