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Husband poor personal hygiene

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husbandsmellshelp · 16/03/2022 09:01

I am really struggling with my husbands lack of personal hygiene and it is starting to make me quite angry!

He refuses to use deodorant and I have to prompt him to shower. Currently he has not had a shower for four or five days, I have said a few times over the past few days that he is starting to smell of BO and he still hasn’t had a shower. I have told him he needs to shower every day and wear clean clothes, he doesn’t. He will walk around with close covered in stains, he works from home most of the time. On the days he goes into the office I have to stand over him and make sure he is choosing clean smart clothing and that he has a wash, a shave, brushes his teeth properly… I know it sounds like I’m making it up but I’m not!

He has very thick curly hair and does not wash his scalp properly and it smells. I have bought him a silicone scalp scrubber, I bought him clarifying shampoo. I don’t think he uses them.

He’s been wearing the same clothes for a couple of days.

He doesn’t clean his teeth properly, I have observed this and he literally puts the brush in his mouth for 10 seconds gives a quick swoosh around, spits and off he goes. I’ve told him he needs to brush his teeth for a couple of minutes many many times…… His breath really smells and it smells like plaque, I don’t think he has had a scale and polish in a few years. He has been telling me recently he has bleeding gums… No wonder!

We moved house awhile ago and are still on a waiting list for a new dentist on the NHS, but he could afford to go for a private scale and polish as I have done. I have suggested this many times and he won’t do it.

He asked me to look in his ears with a special otoscope that I bought recently (at one point I thought I had a perforated eardrum and I couldn’t get a doctor’s appointment), they are completely blocked with brown waxy plugs. I sent him details of somewhere in our closest town that does your irrigation cleaning, he hasn’t made an appointment and I doubt he will. I can’t be bothered to remind him anymore! I do think his ears smell also. His ears and nose also have lots of thick long hair is coming out of them, he doesn’t do anything about it.

I have to prompt him to cut his nails because they end up long and dirty. Quite often his hands smell because he scratches his balls and his arse and doesn’t wash his hands!

We do not share a bed anymore, he snores terribly but also I don’t want to be near him because he smells. I won’t use a pillow he has used because it smells of musty old hair sebum!

I could go on… I think his mother had mental health problems and his dad died when he was quite young so he probably was never taught how to have proper standards for hygiene. The only reason he has any clean clothes because I wash them! He will wear clothes until they are literally rags and I throw them away and use his money to buy him new ones.

I think you may have undiagnosed ADD, he was in a special-needs class at school in the late 70s because he couldn’t pay attention, and he is still very forgetful and wonders off halfway through a conversation etc. Obviously I’m not a mental health professional but I wonder if these traits contribute.

What is making me angry is that I am constantly prompting him and telling that he smells, he ignores me. I find it quite disrespectful. He went through a phase of being quite angry with me for not wanting to hug him or get close to him or kiss him. He seems to have given up and is no longer angry and no longer tries to get close to me. I did to tell him clearly many times over the past few years why I don’t want to get close to him! We have not had sex in three years, I cannot bear the thought of being physically close to him or kissing him.

He is actually a very nice man, but I’m seriously thinking I’m going to have to and things over this. This will be a real shame because we have two little girls.

I don't know where to go from here.

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Bumpsadaisie · 16/03/2022 13:44

@husbandsmellshelp

I feel sorry for the children as well

Please don't feel sorry for my children, they are absolutely fine.

It is not at all meant as an attack on your or on your DH, but your children will not be absolutely fine about this.

I think it is VERY hard for your DH to think about the impact of his behaviour on you and his family, because that would cause him too much pain. To really know what he is doing to his wife and his daughters, how he attacks his marriage and his family in this way.

Likewise I think it is very hard for you to think that this has an impact on your DDs, you want to tell everyone here it is fine, but we all know that it ISN'T fine to grow up with a father who won't take even the most basic hygiene care of himself and with parents who do not share a loving affectionate sexual marriage. And where both parents go on assuming that this is FINE as far as the children are concerned.

They have a father who has serious difficulties in taking ordinary good care of himself, how can they look up to and respect him, much as they also love him.

They have two parents who don't make love, who don't share a bed, who can't model a good marriage.

I don't say this to be cruel to you as I know it is very painful to face but I think you are in denial if you say there is no impact on your DDs.

You keep asking us all to just nod and agree with you that there is no impact. I am sure they are happy and I am sure they love their Dad. Of course they do (and that is great!)

But this will have a big impact on them all the same, and not a good one.

I hope you can read this in the kind spirit it was meant.

Good luck.

Sprucewillis · 16/03/2022 13:47

Yack. It's up to you. You chose him. Would you still choose him? There's your answer.

If you've asked more than once and he's still a stinker you are married to a stinker. Unfortunately rightly or wrongly it will reflect on you too.

husbandsmellshelp · 16/03/2022 13:48

Donee most young children aware of their parents sex/intimate life ?!

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husbandsmellshelp · 16/03/2022 13:49

*are

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Aquamarine1029 · 16/03/2022 13:53

@husbandsmellshelp

Donee most young children aware of their parents sex/intimate life ?!
Not the actual sex, obviously, but they are very aware of the emotional connection, good or bad, that their parents share. Children are acutely aware of any dysfunction between their parents. They may not be able to articulate it, but they feel it.
amusedbush · 16/03/2022 13:53

[quote husbandsmellshelp]@amusedbush thank you so much. A lot of that sounds VERY familiar. [/quote]
No problem!

Can he keep his space clean and tidy? DH and I both have ADHD and we really struggle to keep the house tidy. It will become an absolute shit tip and only the threat of someone coming over to look at the boiler will force us to hyperfocus on cleaning for three days. My desk is a ridiculous mess of empty cups and rubbish. I bought a £200 cordless Dyson in an effort to make hoovering much easier as I could just pick it up and go but nope, I still don't do it. When we moved into this house, we both agreed that a dishwasher was a necessity but we still leave the dishes to pile up and have to hand wash a plate if we want to eat something Blush

You mention that he spends his nights in front of screens - that sounds like he's dissociating. "ADHD paralysis" is 100% a thing - when I have lots of things to do, I can't pick one to start with so I can't do any of them. Sometimes you'll literally find me walking in circles, like a glitch in The Sims, because I'm trying to decide between three tasks.

Again though, if he is ND then it's not your responsibility to fix it, especially if he won't fix himself.

husbandsmellshelp · 16/03/2022 13:55

@Aquamarine1029 but I honestly don't think they'd be happier if we split up. That is the reason for my reticence. I think they'd miss their dad terribly. I think it would be a struggle. If I genuinely though for ONE moment that my children were suffering because of my husbands ways then this marriage would be over. It may literally be because they are so young, that I'm confident they're obvious. This may change as time goes on.

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husbandsmellshelp · 16/03/2022 13:55

*oblivious.

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husbandsmellshelp · 16/03/2022 13:57

The only thing they're not (currently) oblivious to, is that fact that we wake up in separate beds in the morning. But I think even if his hygiene was 100%, one of us would end up in the spare bed at some point due to his snoring.

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husbandsmellshelp · 16/03/2022 13:58

Can he keep his space clean and tidy?

No, his office is a shit tip. I refuse to go in. Initially I used to tidy it up when I was doing other tidying, then I got annoyed with that I started nagging him to keep it tidy, I now I just don't go in.

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cultkid · 16/03/2022 13:59

He needs a doctor he sounds disgusting
And you sound like you have been so so soo tolerant I really feel for you

What a shit situation for you both xx

cherrysthename · 16/03/2022 13:59

Of course they will notice, they are just too young to know any different which is sad in itself. I'm sorry (again), but it's true. Is this man going to be in the school play ground when they're older, and be attending parents' evenings, taking them to activities, mixing with them in social environments? Then they will be mortified despite loving him as their father.
They will pick up on the fact there is no connection between you: holding hands, kisses, snuggling on the sofa. All the normal things in a romantic/sexual relationship. They might well grow up to be distant partners themselves because that is what they are learning.

amusedbush · 16/03/2022 14:01

@husbandsmellshelp

Can he keep his space clean and tidy?

No, his office is a shit tip. I refuse to go in. Initially I used to tidy it up when I was doing other tidying, then I got annoyed with that I started nagging him to keep it tidy, I now I just don't go in.

Yeah, I'm pretty much convinced that he has ADHD and his symptoms got a lot worse due to a huge change in circumstance (having kids).

If he won't see his doctor, it will never get better. He needs to develop some cast iron coping techniques but they have to come from his desire to get on top of things.

I'm sorry you're in this situation, OP Sad

husbandsmellshelp · 16/03/2022 14:02

@cherrysthename what would be your solution ?

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husbandsmellshelp · 16/03/2022 14:03

@amusedbush thanks so much for your insights, you have been immensely helpful.

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Tidlo · 16/03/2022 14:05

Relationship counselling is the only option you have left

cherrysthename · 16/03/2022 14:23

Op my personal solution would be to leave, but that's because I would never accept this. I couldn't. Not only because I enjoy a healthy relationship, and one which doesn't have a carer/mother and reluctant son dynamic, but others would be judging you by his standards. That's because you're accepting his standards. I would find it degrading.

husbandsmellshelp · 16/03/2022 14:28

@cherrysthename thank you. I would just feel so so awful for my poor children, taking their daddy away from them. I do understand that remaining living with him is not ideal, for the reasons you have outlined. I just think it's a zero sum game.

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GandTfortea · 16/03/2022 14:29

Bet you anything he’s autistic,my son is exactly the same ,it’s like living with a homeless person ,the smell is vile ,I totally sympathise .I’m also at a loss what to do ,if I mention it ,he gets angry and violent

husbandsmellshelp · 16/03/2022 14:30

Oh go @GandTfortea that's so awful for you, I'm so sorry. Unfortunately I don't know what to suggest as I am on a similar journey on struggling myself.

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cherrysthename · 16/03/2022 14:35

Loads of relationships don't work out though, G. Reframe the 'taking away their daddy' as coparenting. I don't mean to oversimplify, but your children wouldn't be the first to have separated parents. I know the problem is that he couldn't be trusted not to neglect them, but if I were you, I would rather help him navigate your expectations of him as a father outside of your relationship with him, than in it. If that makes sense. You already have to be on his case all the time in order to perform basic tasks.

husbandsmellshelp · 16/03/2022 14:38

I would rather help him navigate your expectations of him as a father outside of your relationship with him, than in it. If that makes sense. You already have to be on his case all the time in order to perform basic tasks.

Thank you, There is a lot of truth in sense in this.. The difference now is that I can stop my children being neglected, I can constantly observe and step in to make sure things are done. "Micromanage" if you like.

That wouldn't be the case if I had to hand them over I'm not see them for 48 hours. I'm not sure I could do that!

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husbandsmellshelp · 16/03/2022 14:40

....This is one of the reasons that I think that staying might be the lesser of two evils…

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MintyGreenDream · 16/03/2022 14:41

are you married to one of The Twits?

husbandsmellshelp · 16/03/2022 14:42

@MintyGreenDream basically ! Although I don't think he would typical so I don't think it would actually be fair to say that.

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