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Do you think the English, if given a vote, would vote for independence from the rest of the UK?

685 replies

Kendodd · 15/02/2021 13:23

Yabu - No they wouldn't
Yanbu - Yes they would

The break up of the UK seems high chance to me, maybe 60/40 to be voted for within the next ten years. They don't ever seem to ask the English what would you personally vote?

OP posts:
LizBennet · 15/02/2021 13:25

I wouldn’t vote for it.

zigaziga · 15/02/2021 13:27

I wouldn’t vote for it, no.

I’d rather Scotland not leave the union but I wouldn’t be devastated about it.

Dinosauratemydaffodils · 15/02/2021 13:28

I wouldn't get a vote but given the feelings of a lot of English people I know/have met, yes. The last time I was there I heard so many Anti Scottish/N Irish comments. Apparently we're all whingeing benefit abusers and Hadrian's wall needs rebuilding...

araiwa · 15/02/2021 13:28

Whichever annoys the Scots and Welsh the most- I'd do that

Lockheart · 15/02/2021 13:28

Who is "they"?

JackieweaverhasALLtheauthority · 15/02/2021 13:29

No
We are stronger together

RunningFromInsanity · 15/02/2021 13:29

No, but I’d rather have Wales than Scotland.

cardibach · 15/02/2021 13:29

I don’t think enough English people really understand that England doesn’t equal Britain for them to do this.

Kendodd · 15/02/2021 13:30

I think English nationalism is definitely on the rise.

OP posts:
cardibach · 15/02/2021 13:30

@araiwa

Whichever annoys the Scots and Welsh the most- I'd do that
Trying to work out if this is a joke. It’s no particularly funny, which suggests not. And you wonder why the other countries of the union aren’t keen...
cardibach · 15/02/2021 13:31

@RunningFromInsanity

No, but I’d rather have Wales than Scotland.
What gives you the right to ‘have’ either?
gingercatsarebest · 15/02/2021 13:32

No. .I don't think English would. ,but I can see it happening regardless

MillieEpple · 15/02/2021 13:32

I wouldnt vote for it but i think many would. I didnt think people would vote to leave the EU so i think i'm a rubbish guage for what other peoole do.

Orcadianrythyms · 15/02/2021 13:32

We can only hope Wink

Bloodypunkrockers · 15/02/2021 13:33

@araiwa

Whichever annoys the Scots and Welsh the most- I'd do that
Sorry to disappoint you, captain Birdseye.

I'm not sure we would care enough to be annoyed

Bearnecessity · 15/02/2021 13:33

No but I must admit to being absolutely fed up with the whining scots.I would be quite happy if we cut them loose and didn't give them another penny.

Bloodypunkrockers · 15/02/2021 13:34

@RunningFromInsanity

No, but I’d rather have Wales than Scotland.
Have? What do you mean?
minou123 · 15/02/2021 13:34

This is an interesting question Kendodd

In my humble opinion, and based on little evidence, my answer would be no, the English wouldn't vote to be independent.

I would like to see polls, etc.

Babdoc · 15/02/2021 13:34

Isn’t there enough divisive separatist nonsense from the SNP, without you inciting the English to start as well, OP?!
A fragmented and weakened UK is of no benefit to any of its citizens, just to our enemies.

rosie1959 · 15/02/2021 13:36

Tempting as it is never to hear Nicola Sturgeons whining voice again I believe we are stronger together

NuniaBeeswax · 15/02/2021 13:37

Time to settle in nice and early for the "ungrateful haggis munching/sheep loving tax dodgers, we pay for absolutely EVERYTHING in Scotland/Wales, without England they'll shrivel up and die just like they deserve, ungrateful beggars should know their place, WHY DON'T THEY LIKE US???" posts.

Babdoc · 15/02/2021 13:37

Bearnecessity, it’s not “the Scots” who are whinging. Just the SNP supporters. Most of us up here can’t stand them and are happy to be in the UK. And half a million English people actually live in Scotland- I’m one of them!

dreamingbohemian · 15/02/2021 13:38

Well this thread is showing rather quickly why the UK is bound to fall apart in the not too distant future

Yes I think the English would vote for independence because there would be a massive propaganda campaign about the whiny and ungrateful other nations and how England would be better off without them.

Skysblue · 15/02/2021 13:41

I would hate to lose Scotland or Wales, but I’d vote for independence from Northern Ireland, it causes so many problems for the rest of the UK and it’s already kind of part if Ireland - I mean you can be born in Northern Ireland but choose to be on the Irish Olympic team, can get an Irish passport etc. And now we have a customs border with them too. It just doesn’t make any sense that Northern Ireland is part of UK and means we’re basically stuck with an open border with the EU which noone wants.

Freddiefox · 15/02/2021 13:41

I would, fed up with all the anti English attitudes. I have Welsh relativise and the hateful comments that come from them are awful and hateful.