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SmileEachDay · 29/10/2019 16:25

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A missing 15 year old girl was spotted in videos hosted by Pornhub. Those of you who are “ok” with porn - are you “ok” with this?

The sentence the man involved in making the videos is for another thread, but is shocking.

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araiwa · 29/10/2019 16:34

You can think porn can be legal and not support what happened here Confused

I dont not wear clothes because some clothes are made by children in factories

flashbac · 29/10/2019 16:36

I hate how women have been brainwashed into thinking porn is cool.

SerafinaPekkola · 29/10/2019 16:39

I agree, OP. But we will be drowned out by the porn apologists. The people who think a man has an inalienable right to wank over a video of an exploited/trafficked/drug addicted woman having a man ejaculate over her face or up her srse.

SmileEachDay · 29/10/2019 16:41

You can think porn can be legal and not support what happened here confused

Pornhub is one of the most mainstream porn sites going. If you watch porn on a mainstream channel, you may well be watching a child or a woman who is being exploited.

That means you are ok with getting your rocks off directly watching a woman, or possibly a child, being exploited and/or sexually abused/raped.

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easyandy101 · 29/10/2019 16:47

I agree with regards to mainstream porn

Not gonna lie, i do like a naked

easyandy101 · 29/10/2019 16:49

Fucks sake

Continued...

I do like a naked lady, but you can't know anything about them or how they came to be there

I think there are acceptable forms of porn, but they are pretty niche and pretty small scenes, normally related to a non mainstream fetish

SmileEachDay · 29/10/2019 16:50

Not gonna lie, i do like a naked woman who has been trafficked, drugged into compliance and is sustaining injuries during the course of the filming?

Because honestly? That’s what you’re signing up for.

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FadingStar · 29/10/2019 16:51

Porn is filmed abuse of women and girls for entertainment, but people who watch it will keep lying to themselves and everyone else that it isn't. Helps them sleep at night, I guess.

easyandy101 · 29/10/2019 16:51

No i accidentally clicked too early

I agree with regards to the provenance of most porn

araiwa · 29/10/2019 16:54

Your making some pretty emphatic statements.

Got any evidence, stats and facts to back any of it up? How many women on the front page of pornhub were trafficked, drugged or injured for that film?

SmileEachDay · 29/10/2019 16:56

araiwa

I don’t know, which is rather my point.

I know at least one 15 year old was on there....

Do you know?

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Mummyoflittledragon · 29/10/2019 16:58

I saw this already. Poor girl. Horrendous.

I once watched a documentary in fascination that a woman was doing porn with her partner. She wasn’t young either. In her 30’s. Very switched on. Telling people not to try this at home, how they do it etc. They were American and in the US. My understanding was that it was regulated and all participants were willing and not on drugs.

I think there is some porn like this, which is probably ok. Unfortunately it isn’t possible to know what is and isn’t. And the majority isn’t.

StreetwiseHercules · 29/10/2019 17:15

“ I hate how women have been brainwashed into thinking porn is cool.”

I hate how people try to speak for “women” as if they are some homogenous group who should subscribe to groupthink and have no diversity or nuance of views.

Adults are perfectly entitled to enjoy sex and pornography, and should use their best judgement on what to watch as they do in other matters.

It’s time people grew up about sexuality.

StreetwiseHercules · 29/10/2019 17:16

“ Unfortunately it isn’t possible to know what is and isn’t. And the majority isn’t.”

How can you say it isn’t possible to know what is and what isn’t, and then say that majority isn’t?

TheBlueStocking · 29/10/2019 17:18

Nice spammy website

SerafinaPekkola · 29/10/2019 17:18

“ Got any evidence, stats and facts to back any of it up? How many women on the front page of pornhub were trafficked, drugged or injured for that film?”

How about you tell us how many aren’t?

SerafinaPekkola · 29/10/2019 17:20

“ It’s time people grew up about sexuality.”

It’s actually time people grew up about the nature of the porn industry.

StreetwiseHercules · 29/10/2019 17:21


It’s actually time people grew up about the nature of the porn industry”

It’s quite a diverse and complex thing I believe. What makes you an expert?

CAG12 · 29/10/2019 17:22

I dont think anyone knows the actual stats of those that go into porn by choice and those that are trafficked into it. I have worked in sexual health and we got a fair few porn workers through the door needing a 'clean bill of health' certificate (a certificate to say they're free of any STIs). Its not as uncommon as you think.

Also OP - its ridiculous to suggest that ALL porn is representative of this poor 15 year old.

araiwa · 29/10/2019 17:24

when i start making sweeping statements, i will back them up. unlike op

no doubt this episode, highlights the need for the likes of pornhub to do more to prevent it happening but to suggest that every video has various form of illegality in it seems unlikely

lazylinguist · 29/10/2019 17:26

Adults are perfectly entitled to enjoy sex and pornography, and should use their best judgement on what to watch as they do in other matters.

Yes, but do you think the vast majority of them do use good judgement? If people can't be trusted to care about whether they are making or watching porn featuring trafficked, underage and vulnerable people, then no, it shouldn't be allowed to be made and people shouldn't be entitled to watch it.

ReanimatedSGB · 29/10/2019 17:32

There are many, many people working in and around the porn industry trying to ensure that it is safe, ethical and all the rest of it.
At least part of the issue with Pornhub is that it is about as moderated as Twitter - so any random can upload footage. Including those who have filmed scenes without the permission of participants (for either the filming or the activities filmed) - and also those who have created material with consenting adults and had it ripped off by someone else.

The fact that some people enjoy creating sexually explicit entertainment and others enjoy watching it no more makes those people responsible for the abusive behaviour of others than going to a wedding means you condone domestic violence.

Leafyhouse · 29/10/2019 17:48

Thanks for the heads-up OP. I've just hurled my phone into the bin, because it's made by exploited workers. Except that they're not all exploited, but maybe one or two of them are. Why take the risk, that's what I say.

I will also burn all my clothes, and stop drinking coffee (and tea). Just in case.

Honestly, if you have an agenda, why not just state your opinion, rather than trying to shroud it in moral terms? Thus implying that if people watch porn (i.e. don't agree with you), they're involved in sex trafficking / paedophilia / whatever random shit you wish to hurl at people who don't want to do what you tell them.

StreetwiseHercules · 29/10/2019 17:49

“ Yes, but do you think the vast majority of them do use good judgement? If people can't be trusted to care about whether they are making or watching porn featuring trafficked, underage and vulnerable people, then no, it shouldn't be allowed to be made and people shouldn't be entitled to watch it.”

Production of content should be strictly licensed and made to the highest possible standards.

There is nothing shameful about sex or about adults enjoying all things erotic and sexual.

SmileEachDay · 29/10/2019 17:52

Honestly, if you have an agenda, why not just state your opinion, rather than trying to shroud it in moral terms?

What ‘agenda’ do you think I have?

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