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To put my baby boy in shorts with tights?

184 replies

Blii · 27/10/2019 20:02

Someone bought my baby boy a really cute dungaree set, but they’re completely the wrong season as they are short dungarees.
Would I be out the ordinary to pair them with tights!?
The dungarees won’t fit him in the summer and they’re out of stock for me to exchange for a bigger size for summer.

OP posts:
meyouandlulutoo · 28/10/2019 22:11

@Grimbles
My son is male and my daughter is female. Their clothing, toys and interests do not change biological facts. Only people who enforce gender stereotypes and delight in telling children they are 'wrong' for not adhering to them are causing the problems.

Oh so true, completely agree with you

Pinkyyy · 28/10/2019 22:11

@Yestermo I wasn't aware that there was one, they're interchangeable to me.

Sparrowlegs248 · 28/10/2019 22:12

Both my DS wore/wear tights. They did a lot as babies, with dungarees and under clothes for warmth. And they still do now if it's cold. They're 2 and 4 and will wear tights under their clothes on occasions like bonfire night, or Christmas markets at night.

Smotheroffive · 28/10/2019 22:12

DS has got a gender (now, because he's 3.5)

'got' gender.

Please dont out your child ina box because of what he plays with. Next week he might like dolls, regardless of his sex.

Are you really doing this to your child?

Stop judging him, poor little mite.

Grimbles · 28/10/2019 22:13

The problem is when we're not allowed to label them boys and girls

But why would you want to tell a boy in a pink top that they are wearing a girls top?

Pinkyyy · 28/10/2019 22:14

DS has got a gender (now, because he's 3.5)

I must admit, that confused me too. When did he acquire his gender? Did you celebrate it? Is he allowed to change it?

Pinkyyy · 28/10/2019 22:15

@Grimbles a boy can wear a pink top, no problem. But if he's wearing a pink top covered in sparkles and frills, I'd say it was a girls top. Gender isn't in the colour, it's in the style.

Smotheroffive · 28/10/2019 22:15

They're just stereotypes. History has taught us how harmful they are.

Grimbles · 28/10/2019 22:21

But if he's wearing a pink top covered in sparkles and frills, I'd say it was a girls top

Yes, that's the point though! Not everyone wants to dress their daughter in frills and sparkles. Plain clothes for some reason seem to default to being labelled as boys clothing, when there is no reason for them to be.

A plain top in whatever colour is just a top - why does it have to be designated as a boys top or a girls top?

Yestermo · 28/10/2019 22:23

Pinkky you are born with a gender you are born with a sex. "Thedifference between sex and genderis that sexis a biological concept based on biological characteristics such asdifferencein genitalia in male and female.Gender on the other hand primarily deals with personal, societal and cultural perceptions ofsexuality." So sex tells us boys have penises but not that they have a preference for cars, dinosaurs or football. There is no reason why boys can't wear tights but society and deemed it unacceptable because it goes against gender norms.

Yestermo · 28/10/2019 22:24

Dang it! First sentence makes no sense " you aren't born with a gender!!!"

Grimbles · 28/10/2019 22:26

Those that say there are more than 2 genders are correct, but probably not in the way they think they are!

NaviSprite · 28/10/2019 22:26

I’ve had DS in tights since the weather turned cold as he will not keep his bloody socks on and I’m fed up of having a load of odd single socks (no idea where he’s storing them 😂) so go for it OP.

I’ve also had him in his sisters leggings a fair few times because he’s at that awkward age (they’re twins at 2yo) where his legs are super long but his waist is quite small and his own trousers won’t stay up! His favourite pair of leggings are yellow with clouds and rainbows printed on them, I’ve been told off by in-laws for letting him wear them, I shrug it off and say, “well at least they stay up when he’s running about!” Grin

Also tights haven’t always just been for girls or women - so there’s that too!

Camomila · 28/10/2019 22:50

I think I phrased it badly, I just meant that when they are babies/younger toddlers DC don't know if they are boys or girls or if boys or girls usually wear X item of clothing.

DS has just moved up to the oldest room at nursery is suddenly into characterising what he thinks are girl things and boy things, and has started saying things like 'the boys play trains and the girls do drawing'...I do point out things like 'Anna is a girl and she always plays trains with you' and make sure he has nice crayons/craft stuff at home.

MissLadyM · 28/10/2019 22:52

Unless they're fishnets I can't see the problem.

Smotheroffive · 28/10/2019 23:19

Thats worrying that hes doing that at 3 ½ years old! Wow!

Boys don't do trains and girls drawing though.

Thats not what happens

In our enlightened times girls and boys do everything right?

I can't believe anyone is pushing the old gendered stereotypes to this degree. Its getting worse instead of better.

All ours and their friends just played with whatever. We had boys and girls in whatever fancy dress they wanted. Boys and girls played all manner of games together they weren't 'male' and 'female' games

Smotheroffive · 28/10/2019 23:23

Pinkyyy knows kids sex is determined at conception . Everyone knows that. We all did our biology at school Wink

Thankfully we are free to dress ourselves and our dc as we like and not kow tow to some idea of wjat a girl should be, or a boy foe that mattter. They be what they be, and don't have to wear pink or blue (archaic ideas)

Camomila · 28/10/2019 23:38

I'm also not sure where it comes from, he mainly watches cbeebies which is generally good on things like that, and from chatting to his key worker I know nursery also don't push those sorts of messages.

My best guess is from other kids who have older brothers and sisters maybe? And just general 'absorbing' random comments from people and adverts.

SleepingStandingUp · 28/10/2019 23:50

@Smotheroffive
must only be cream or brown according to most shops. No animals - animals are specifically gendered. Bunnies are girls. Lions are boys etc.
Oh stop it with this harmful rhetoric. Are you the maker up of rules and gender stereotypes police. Blimey.
You misinterpreted my comment, hence my comment about according to shops. I'll concede my sarcasm over gendered animals may not have translated. But I would like to be the maker up of rules asicould then find more Shimmer and Shine clothes for my son that weren't frilly.

SleepingStandingUp · 28/10/2019 23:54

@Grimbles I think that pp was being tongue in cheek. I was, thank you I brought Robots and lions and dinosaurs in tbe expectation of a girl but he came out a boy anyway! Tights and long hair it is then😊😊

SleepingStandingUp · 28/10/2019 23:58

@Pinkyyy No wonder we've got people 'self-identifying' as anything they can think of.
Surely the boy who knows he's still a boy if he likes pink and dolls /the girl who knows she's still a girl if she likes football and blue is LESS likely to feel the need to identify as anything other than them than the kids confused by liking the "wrong" things according to their genitals?

. I won't have anything to do with anything gender neutral as I think it's helping to raise a generation of confused and depressed children you think baby's in white baby grows are causing confusion on sex identify??

WatchingTheMoon · 29/10/2019 00:28

"you think baby's in white baby grows are causing confusion on sex identify??"

My mum said the same when I said I didn't want gender specific clothes.

It literally has the opposite effect and I'm amazed people think otherwise.

MissLadyM · 29/10/2019 00:39

Things are only going to get even more fucked up ..

vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/something-is-terribly-wrong-with-celine-dions-genderless-clothing-line/

Nat6999 · 29/10/2019 02:05

Anyone who is shocked that boys can wear tights would have fainted to see my ds when he was small, he had a dolls pram, a toy kitchen, tea set & a wendy house in the garden with curtains & a window box. He was just a little boy who loved to take his cuddly toys for a walk, play at cooking & have tea parties in his little house, nothing more

Marriedwithchildren5 · 29/10/2019 07:25

I seriously doubt any of the parents here have a dress from the 'girls' section in their sons wardrobe as standard wear. When you brought them a school uniform did you include a skirt or gingham summer dress for your son? Does he have knickers instead of pants? @Pinkyyy is at least honest.

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