To put my baby boy in shorts with tights?

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Someone bought my baby boy a really cute dungaree set, but they’re completely the wrong season as they are short dungarees.
Would I be out the ordinary to pair them with tights!?
The dungarees won’t fit him in the summer and they’re out of stock for me to exchange for a bigger size for summer.

No wonder we've got people 'self-identifying' as anything they can think of.

Oh please. No one is trans because their mum didn’t advertise their sex to passing strangers enough or failed to take every opportunity to shriek YOU ARE A GIRL BLUE IS NOT FOR YOU AND PUT DOWN THAT TOY TRACTOR at them.

If it were, what of the children of the 70s in endless brown and orange? Or the centuries where all kids were all in dresses until they were anywhere between two and eight.

Why does it matter to you whether a stranger can tell your child’s sex at a glance?

By the way, I found the tights by searching for "baby boy tights" on eBay. There's loads of options

He's a baby, dress him how you like as long as he's warm and looked after!

Grimbles My DS was constantly mistaken for a girl even though I dressed him from the "boy" section. When I corrected people, they often looked mortified and apologised profusely. I reassured them that I didn't give a fuck. I've actually heard some pissed-off women at my toddler group complain that they put their girls in one of those headbands and they're still mistaken for a boy.

I think it's helping to raise a generation of confused and depressed children with heaps of mental health problems

It's not the clothing doing that, but narrow minded attitudes towards clothing.

If it’s not been suggested already, H&M do non-‘girly’ tights (just had a look and they currently have ones with diggers and paw patrol ones) or Slugs and Snails tights are brilliant

Ah yes, I wondered how long until someone tried to say it's fine because it was fine 100 years ago. I wonder if we should compile a list of other things that were normal and see what else we can bring back?

Also I only have boys and they’ve both worn tights, my eldest was very skinny as a toddler and trousers just fell down so tights and shorts was ideal, he wore them up til he was about 4/5ish

@pinkyyy good on you. I feel for the
poor children whose parents see it as 'moving forward' in allowing their innocent children to feel that they are anything besides the gender they are born with. Disturbing.

Go for it! Mine used to wear tights from H&M.

There are loads of photos of little boys in dresses from the olden days. I read it's because it made changing nappies more convenient but I also read elsewhere that it was actually fashionable too. Not sure if that's correct btw.

@Doods3 people think it's just silliness in the media, it's not. Untill you've witnessed it first hand and you can't do anything because the parents support it, there's no way to know how serious it is. I only hope it doesn't take a huge tragedy to put an end to it all.

My DS used to wear the JoJo winter leggings all the time. Go for it!

Ah yes, I wondered how long until someone tried to say it's fine because it was fine 100 years ago. I wonder if we should compile a list of other things that were normal and see what else we can bring back?

Your logic and your reading comprehension are both failing you. Your argument was that not advertising a baby’s sex through it’s clothes and not being fussed about making sure they’re in clearly gendered clothing led to people ‘self-identifying as anything they could think of’.

I pointed out If that was the case, we would have seen mass movements of similar in times with much less gendered clothing among small children (such as the 70s or the Victorian times).

Not passing a judgement on the merits of those clothing choices (personally I think dresses for all babies and toddlers was pretty impractical and grim for kids, and I loathe the classic 70s colours with a passion) - just that if your statement was correct, logic dictates it must have been correct in those earlier times too.

Try again on why it’s important strangers can decode the sex of a baby via its clothes? Surely the people who you actually care about and who will have an influence on your child know, and won’t be confused if a girl wears blue or a boy likes a purple top with a unicorn?

My baby wasnt born with a gender. But that's because I know gender is not the same thing as sex.

The only people causing confusion are those imposing gender stereotypes onto children.

My son is male and my daughter is female. Their clothing, toys and interests do not change biological facts. Only people who enforce gender stereotypes and delight in telling children they are 'wrong' for not adhering to them are causing the problems.

My baby wasnt born with a gender

That's nice. Mine all have been.

I loathe the classic 70s colours with a passion

Hey, my brown jumpsuit with orange stripes down the leg and arms was fucking awesome I'll have you know!

And strangely enough, I'm still female after being put in all kinds of dark unisex clothing as a baby and toddler.

Pinkky so you think it's fine to put a girl in blue which is seen as a boy's colour but not a boy in a dress?
I think it's perpuating the idea that things seen as feminine are wrong. No-one says much when a female wears her male partner's clothes but there might be a few raised eyebrows if he wore hers.

If it wasn't seen as perverted for men to wear feminine clothes, then perhaps there might be fewer trans women.

Perpetuating*

There's quite a difference. A girl can wear a blue dress and it's still clearly a girls dress.

That's nice. Mine all have been

Yes, that's pretty obvious...

DS has got a gender (now, because he's 3.5)
He likes trains and fire fighters and construction vehicles and superheros, he's also got a pink bike and likes flowers.
Much like I'm a woman who likes baking and clothes and used to do ballet, but also like hiking and sci fi.

There's nothing wrong with prefering something that the opposite gender tends to like more.

Pinkky I might be wrong but its coming across as if you don't understand the difference between gender and sex. Don't worry if you don't, I didn't until quite recently.

There's nothing wrong with prefering something that the opposite gender tends to like more.

I agree. A little boy can wear a pink shirt and a little girl can like superheroes. That's not a problem. The problem is when we're not allowed to label them boys and girls.

If it wasn't seen as perverted for men to wear feminine clothes, then perhaps there might be fewer trans women.

Without derailing the thread too much, no I dont think that would happen for adult men

This rigid thinking with regards to gender stereotypes being spouted on this thread is what leads to children being told they are trans and being prescribed puberty blockers which cause irreversible damage.

And yet those of us who understand sex is distinct from gender, and the clothes and toys you play with dont mean a boy is a girl are supposedly in the wrong!