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Possibly Not Taking Kids on an Amazing Holiday...... WWYD?

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19lottie82 · 19/08/2014 09:43

Sorry this is kind of long!

I’m 32 and have recently got married to my DH, after 4.5 years together, who has 2 girls (14 and 10) who we have 50% of the time, we all get along really well so no problems there.

The girls mum is a recovering alcoholic, who sorted herself out about 2.5 years ago, and now works, and has them 50% of the time. She is doing a bit better, but still pretty useless in terms of providing for the girls (we buy pretty much everything, despite her promises to buy ½ school uniforms etc, it never happens). She has promised that she will take the girls to New York in 2015 to her cousins wedding, but based on past experience, I really can’t see it.

My IL’s have a small holiday home in the Algarve, so the girls get taken there every year without fail, which they love. The girls love it and it’s really great as it means we can all have a break with only budget flights and spending money to cover. Also, the kids are not spoilt, but they do not go without in terms of gadgets, clothes pocket money. I think my DH tries to make up for their useless Mum, in some ways.

About two years ago my OH and I went to Florida for a week together, without the kids, I felt a bit guilty, but it was the only holiday we had taken together, ever, and when we were looking for a week in Europe, a very cheap deal popped up (as it was term time I guess), so we grabbed it. The kids didn’t seem that fussed (they have been before), but I did feel a bit bad going without them.

Then last month we went away without them on our honeymoon for 10 days, round SE Asia (paid for by my parents as a wedding present), I don’t think the kids would have even wanted to go to these locations and it was our honeymoon, so I don’t feel too guilty about going away without them, but obviously, on paper, it was a child free holiday.

At the moment we are all in my flat that I bought before I met my DH, it’s a bit cramped but we are trying to make do and save up for a deposit on a house so we can upgrade to a larger place, nearer the girls school and friends. We will need a minimum of £15k, and have £3.5k so far.

So, anyway, my Dad and my DSM are moving to San Francisco shortly for 2 years. He has spoken about my DH and I going to visit, an told us he has enough Avios (air Miles) to “pay” for our flights whenever we want to go over for a visit and they have a 2 bed place, so we can stay there, no problem. Great!

However, the dilemma is, I would feel really guilty about going away without the kids again, especially to America, but the problems are…..

  1. My Dad isn’t overly keen on children, and it would be a bit of a squash with all 6 of us in a 2 bed place. If we asked, I know he wouldn’t say no they couldn’t come, but I wouldn’t impose all of us in his place for 10 days, so I guess the plan would be spend 5 days there, then hire a car for 5 days and do our own thing (California theme parks, maybe?). This obviously would cost.
  2. The “free” flights for my DH and I that my Dad is offering will be available on a few select dates only. Realistically, the chance of getting them in the school holidays, is slim to none, so to cover 4 flights during the holidays would be about £3200.

So, to cut to the crunch. Dh and I have the chance of a free holiday, we would love to take the girls, but if we do it’s going to cost us upwards of £5000, basically all our savings, when we are trying to save for a house deposit.

Also, I haven’t had any serious discussions about this with my DH, but he has already mentioned in passing to the kids about us all going there on holiday at some point, but I don’t think he has considered the cost implications (he does this a lot).
I will feel a total bitch if we can’t take them, but I think at the moment our financial priority should be focusing on the house. It’s kind of a heart vs head situation!

WWYD? Help!

OP posts:
landrover · 19/08/2014 10:29

I think that now, as you are married, you have to treat the family as the family. They are your husbands children, if they were your 2 girls from both of you, you wouldn't consider going without them, so there is your answer, good luck xxx

CrapBag · 19/08/2014 10:29

macdoodle you are out of order. They get to go abroad every year which is far more than many children do.

I lived with my GPs. They went away with out me. Ok I would like to have gone but it wasn't exactly a child friendly holiday and I can see that they wanted some time to themselves.

macdoodle · 19/08/2014 10:30

Nonsense it's another fun (the ops words) expensive long holiday, why 10 days if it's just a visit. Lots of excuses to justify these holidays children free, which to me speaks volumes that the op knows it's not great.

maninawomansworld · 19/08/2014 10:32

Sod it, go without them and have a good time. Like you say, they aren't exactly hard done by the rest of the time are they.

macdoodle · 19/08/2014 10:32

Why am I out of order. It's aibu not relationships or step parenting, I am not swearing or being abusive. I am giving my opinion which is that the op is bu. Don't post in aibu if you don't want to hear that you are!

19lottie82 · 19/08/2014 10:33

jacks365 - I don't think I can come down too hard on my dad here. he has gone out of his way to offer my OH and I a free holiday, which is very generous.

Again, I know for a fact he wouldn't say no if we asked to bring the kids, but he's in his 70s now and just not that keen on kids, full stop (the same as a lot of people). As this is the case, I don't really think it would be fair to bring the kids to his house for 10 days, even though he wouldn't say anything. Hence why if we took them I'd want to split up the trip.

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macdoodle · 19/08/2014 10:35

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Bouttimeforwine · 19/08/2014 10:35

But this isn't a holiday as such. She will be visiting a parent. The kids are old enough to understand how finances work. They should be able to understand the idea of saving for a house. They are only with you 50% of the time. They get a nice holiday anyway. You are saying that you will take them another time, finances permitting.

Is the op never to visit or see her dad, ever again? Word it as such, rather than a holiday.

jacks365 · 19/08/2014 10:36

It is a generous offer but not one I could accept if it excluded members of my immediate family.

19lottie82 · 19/08/2014 10:37

macdoodle "Umm stop spending money on holidays and save for a home for you and your children"

that's what I am doing, but you obviously didn't read the OP.

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macdoodle · 19/08/2014 10:38

Its the 3 rd such extravagant trip in a short period, but if all the op wanted was justification that it's ok then she's not going to get it from me.

19lottie82 · 19/08/2014 10:38

macdoodle - "Just move on with your own little family , and fit them in as suits you. You clearly resent them"

yawn yawn yawn, stop talking about stuff you know nothing about please. you're making a fool of yourself.

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Tauriel1 · 19/08/2014 10:38

You have posted in AIBU so you will get honest opinions.

Will the trip obviously fall on one of the weeks the girls are with their Mum? If that's what you mean by 50/50 care. If it is, I would go but for a week instead if 10 days so that it doesn't go into the time spent with their Dad.

macdoodle · 19/08/2014 10:39

Really how much will this "free trip" cost? Food, spend, transport, it won't be free will it?

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Tauriel1 · 19/08/2014 10:40

Didn't mean that first bit how it reads. I meant don't be shocked/let it get to you.

DaisyFlowerChain · 19/08/2014 10:40

Sod them! What a horrible thing to say.

These children have had to deal with their mothers problems, a split of parents and now a new spouse that appears to see them as an inconvenience.

Of course your DH wants to take them. If you don't, then go alone.

19lottie82 · 19/08/2014 10:40

macdoodle - AGAIN, try reading the OP properly. where did I say the girls went away with their grandparents? Oh, that's right, I didn't.

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hercules1 · 19/08/2014 10:41

I think you are looking at this the wrong way. You aren't going on a holiday as such more visiting your dad. I can't see an issue.

BoneyBackJefferson · 19/08/2014 10:42

macdoodle

"Why am I out of order"

start with this:-
except you don't really see them as your children do you.

yumyumpoppycat · 19/08/2014 10:43

10 days is a bit too long without them can you go for 5 days?

basgetti · 19/08/2014 10:43

How is the 50-50 arranged? Will it impact on childcare and contact arrangements for their Mum? Visiting your Dad without the DCs would be fine but for the fact that it is the latest in a line of holidays without them so can't really be considered a one off.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 19/08/2014 10:44

I think the choice is between all 4 of you going or you going to visit your parents while DH stays with his children. Seems a bit mean to leave them out again.

yumyumpoppycat · 19/08/2014 10:44

yes that quoted comment was a bit unjustified, she is clearly struggling with the decision.

19lottie82 · 19/08/2014 10:45

everyone, I do want honest opinions, that's why I have posted on here. I appreciate them. I just don't appreciate, people (don't think I have to mention any names here!) not reading the OP properly and making judgements based on information that I haven't provided in the OP.

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