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about fanfiction that features child abuse? Not very nice, sorry

230 replies

littlepigshavebigears · 07/04/2011 12:21

I have a bit of an addiction for Harry Potter fanfic stories Blush of the non-slash variety

I like potionsandsnitches.com especially but sometimes I venture out into the big wide world of fanfiction

and I have wondered for a while about stories which are adult rated and refer to "non-con" or "chan" sexual relationships between adults and underaged kids (HP and his friends, usually)

shurely these stories are illegal? You can't just write lurid fantasies about child abuse and rape and post them on the net, can you?

And if it isn't illegal, well it bloody well should be

OP posts:
MrsDmitriTippensKrushnic · 08/04/2011 09:42

pocketsocks Try some of these No idea what's in there, but they should all be gen and the one at the top by Pandarus should be fab. She's an incredibly talented writer whether she's writing gen or slash; I've read most of her fic (she's actually the person who got me into Harry/Draco)

AmazingBouncingFerret · 08/04/2011 10:01

I love love how this has become a thread recommending different FF!

LaWeasel · 08/04/2011 10:04

It is pretty damn shiny.

And on that note, I just have to rec this Buffy fic. It was written post buffy's swandive at the end of series 5 and goes far future AU from there, but I just love it.

It's R so there is some sex stuff but nothing hugely explicit. (and in the spirit of this thread everybody is over the age of consent and consenting) Phoenix Burning

SpringchickenGoldBrass · 08/04/2011 10:08

Of course, the Bible itself contains plenty of child abuse and murder. Fanfic, on the other hand, cannot be said to have triggered wars or genocide in very many places.

AmazingBouncingFerret · 08/04/2011 10:14

Oh I remember reading a buffy one where she fell into the past and ended up in London when Spike was still human. Cant remember the name of it though! Sad

LaWeasel · 08/04/2011 10:14

Canon is a tricky issue. Poor Buffy has sex when underage, gets treated like shit by the guy afterwards then a few years later is nearly raped by an ex...

Little bit awkward (and pretty offensive in it's own way) if you're supposed to somehow forget about all that when you write stories about her.

LaWeasel · 08/04/2011 10:15

I have read a couple of that style ABF - there was a really good one where she ended up living with the Rominov's! But it was never finished.

ShowOfHands · 08/04/2011 13:06

MrsDmitri, do you read the Merlin stuff on the lj Arthur/Merlin comm? I wrote some Merlin stuff a while back but is it just me or are their mods fierce . I'm so bloody terrified I'll tag something wrong, I don't dare post it. They're very snippy.

MrsDmitriTippensKrushnic · 08/04/2011 16:40

I read fic from there occasionally - it's on my flist so I'll read something that grabs me as I scroll through. TBH, I don't know the meeting places in merlin/arthur so I'm very much on the periphery of the fandom. I only really started to read the fic last year because of Pandarus' (her again!) The Student Prince, then I googled for Merlin rec lists, discovered the also rather amazing Astolat wrote in the fandom too and read all those, then finally trawled through the Merlin/Arthur tags on delicious.

Merlin fandom as a whole on LJ seems a tad uptight, but I'm in the Supernatural fandom which has a laissez faire attitude towards fic. Well we'd have to, until S4 the OTP was (and still is for a lot of people) an incestuous slash pairing with a canon childhood backstory that at best is neglectful and at worst out-and-out abusive.

Glitterandglue · 08/04/2011 17:30

[Totally still doing dissertation] If you don't like fierce mods, don't go near the sherlockbbc comm. It's sad because it's the main one and the fandom is really quite excellent, laid-back, full of lots of good fic (admittedly a fair bit of dross too, but the balance is good) but the main mod, icedmaple, hates the majority of the fans (she even admits so on her journal) and is constantly smacking down on someone in a totally disproportionate manner. And she fails to accept that perhaps if the majority of the fandom want something x way and she doesn't agree, she should either bend to their will, seeing as they make up the damn fandom, or she should just stop being a mod. I have no idea why she keeps doing it; she must get off on the power or something.

Also, I've not watched Merlin but agree Asolat is amazing. Was it her that did the SPN/HP crossover where the Impala was made by goblins or something?

ShowOfHands · 08/04/2011 18:10

I've got The Student Prince and some of Astolat's stuff (okay a lot) in mems. Grin

I spend most of my time in SPN tbh. The Merlin stuff I only ended up reading because somebody on my flist wrote something (cherrybina iirc) and I was bitten by an idea.

SandStorm · 08/04/2011 18:27

Okay, I've admitted my SPN addiction already but I've never come across Archive of our own before. I'm so pleased it's been mentioned as there are loads of authors there I've never heard of before. Once I've trawled it for a while I may decide I don't like any of them but for now I have my evening's entertainment laid out in front of me.

Tee2072 · 08/04/2011 20:16

Did I miss a link to a SPN archive? I see the rec community but there's so much RPS on there I don't feel like weeding through it find the stuff I really want to read.

MrsDmitriTippensKrushnic · 09/04/2011 10:40

I put a link to someone with a huge rec list earlier that had a gen section (and no RPS). If you say which way your interests lie I can have another look, but I'm off to the Kapow Comic Con this weekend (Merlin panel ) so won't get back on here until late this evening.

takewhatyoucan · 09/04/2011 11:02

Thanks for that link Pfft! Just having a read now...

I'm not too sure what I'm looking for in a twilight ff, nothing sick, unbelievable or too messed up, dirty is fine, preferably all the characters paired up as they were originally in the book to start with!

Tee2072 · 09/04/2011 16:57

No sure, MrsDmitri. I don't usually read just plain SPN, usually Buffy/SPN crossover.

Maybe some really well written Dean/Cas? Any rating!

LaWeasel · 09/04/2011 17:03

Much as I'm enjoying this thread, I wish we could edit the title!

Indith · 09/04/2011 17:21

I love how this has gone from the OP to trading recs Grin

Hello, my name is Indith and nobody in RL knows I read fanfic. HG/SS is my guilty secret Blush. I now hope that those on here who know me in RL do not lose all respect for me Grin

Bringing it back to the OP though, I can't be the only one to have stumbled upon a story that makes me go Hmm, there are certainly a few in the HG/SS world that use rape as a plot device to get them shagging, just chuck it in there like it means nothing. She gets kidnapped, only way to save her is for him to rape her in public, she is so grateful she doesn't at all mind and falls in love with him. It astounds me that people can think that is in any way realistic (well ok it is fanfic so not realistic anyway).

Ariadne however, writes some great stuff

Tee2072 · 09/04/2011 17:38

I have definitely come across fics that make me go Shock Hmm but I do find that most are well rated with giud warnings.

I like happy fic!!

Indith · 09/04/2011 17:50

Yes happy fic is good!

KaraStarbuckThrace · 09/04/2011 19:40

HG/SS is my guilty secret - Indith you'll be pleased to know you are not alone!!

Tee2072 · 09/04/2011 19:44

What the hell is a giud warning?! I really shouldn't post from my phone while cooking dinner!

I have also enjoyed a HG/SS in my time!

PfftTheMagicDragon · 09/04/2011 20:35

I actually almost cannot believe that there are other people on MN that are not repulsed by HG/SS.

I have read all of those ariadne fics, and most of everything else.Grin

More common than the kidnapping fics though are the marriage law fics, now there's a trope.

Indith · 09/04/2011 20:55

Ah yes Marriage Law, whoever thought up that one should be shot. And timeturner fics. "Oh my god I have such a good idea! Hermione can go abck and shag Snape while he is a teenager! I'll write lots of good sex! Oh shit I've lost myself in all my time loops and paradoxes and I can't remember which way is up and what happens when everyone is back in their own time I'll just abandon the fic"

Indith · 09/04/2011 20:57

Grin Kara

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