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Would paramedics refer me to social services if they didnt ask me anything

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Sophie2082 · 10/04/2026 11:27

Flat is very messy as husband is extremely poorly. Kitchen has dirty dishes. I am doing it on my own and baby is a velcro 9 month old and breastfeeds on demand. Typing this while he is suckling from me. Husband is so poorly he keeps vomitting into a baby potty (obviously never been used by baby, i just got it in advance)

He called the ambulance v early in the morning. He is sleeping in the spare room which has the baby changing table, baby wardrobe and a playmat with toys on the floor (noticed after paramedics left there was a cable on the floor). Honestly baby moves v slowly and i am usually with baby so will carry him off when he touches anything he shouldnt. He cosleeps with me in the master bedroom and the cot is full of clean clothes ( i put away some when i get a moment). Baby has never slept in it as he cosleeps (of course the ambulance staff dont know that but i think they saw it while standing in hallway).

They took husband away in ambulance, he honestly wasnt very lucid and kept saying he has a learning disability which means he cant reach his GP so no records of thr GP appointment. Truth is he has private health insurance so usually goes for private medical care do a & e staff can't see any records. He doesnt have a learning disability but has been diagnosed with adhd and he got a private antibiotics prescription yesterday.

They took my husband and left me with baby. No questions asked about baby but they did see baby as i was carrying him while talking to them.

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Sophie2082 · 10/04/2026 16:30

KilkennyCats · 10/04/2026 16:26

Gosh, yet another medical mystery 🤔

Tbh when i had my emergency c section, nhs didnt even tell me the reason i had to have that was sepsis. They just told me i needed a c section and if i didnt have it i was endangering myself. I found out later from notes.

I am not surprised they havent told him. All they could tell me is he definitely needs to stay overnight

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KilkennyCats · 10/04/2026 16:39

Sophie2082 · 10/04/2026 16:06

They definitely knew he was living independently as it was just us and baby. We live in a leafy suburb of north london. They dont know we own the flat but market rent for my flat is 2k. Its not a council flat either. It does take 2 incomes to afford though when we bought it for 392k in 2019 it was mainly on the basis of dh's income as i didnt have ilr then so there was a smaller weight on his income..

He told them he was learning disabled, op!
They’re not going to make an evaluation of his housing setup and decide he can’t be because it looks like he’s earning more than the minimum wage.
Your posts are really very, very strange.

LIZS · 10/04/2026 16:42

Op, is there any chance you too are neurodiverse? Your responses seem very reactive and dispassionate. What support can you access to give you a bit of a break while he is unwell? Did you see any nurses while you were at the hospital, they can explain what he is being tested and treated for or potentially diagnoses.

RoseandGrace · 10/04/2026 16:49

I work for the ambulance service up north granted but I can’t see LAS will be that different - I think you are over thinking this massively if I’m honest.

If I was there for your husband I’d probably give your baby a quick hello and then move onto to questioning your husband to gain a history - definitely would not be arsed about the state of your house with an evident small baby as most of us are parents and know exactly how hard it is as long as it wasn’t dangerous or neglectful.

We go into some of the most disgusting houses on a very regular basis so I wouldn’t worry I’m sure it was fine - in regards to your husband lying about a disability though we are highly in-tuned people and very observant so the crew would know if he was bullshitting them - but again they probably didn’t care.

To put a safeguarding referal in we would have needed the name and date of birth of your baby and in my area we need consent to do a “care concern” which is to gain support such as adult social services which you clearly don’t need as working adults in charge of a small baby.

PunnyPlumPanda · 10/04/2026 16:50

Sophie2082 · 10/04/2026 12:35

He was in paedatric a & e for a virus. Discharged on same day.

I dont know where you are but in london right now, gp ignores you so the only option is private healthcare or we go to paedaetric a & e in uclh which is excellent. Just walk in and will get seen. They told me we were righy to bring him in as he had a temperature but they had no concerns

Ii did agree to him cancelling it but my point was my husband doesnt want him to be out to the extent we are cancelling a baby class so far in advance! That is why i cant be at a & e with my husband as i have to look after baby.

Could he have been taken in? Driven in?

PunnyPlumPanda · 10/04/2026 16:58

Sophie2082 · 10/04/2026 15:29

He clarified to me he considers adhd a learning disability and he does have adhd so that is not a lie.

its not classified as a learning disability. Regardless of whether he thinks it is or not.

Contrarymary30 · 10/04/2026 16:59

If they do make a referal then you obviously need one so I'd take whatever support you're offered . The bar is so high for SS to be involved that general untidiness would not be enough . Your H sounds very poorly , d o you have any idea what's wrong ? Xx

PunnyPlumPanda · 10/04/2026 17:00

Iamuhtredsonofuhtred · 10/04/2026 13:50

Hi OP, I’m a healthcare professional who does lots of home visits and work with vulnerable communities so with lots of safeguarding. If I’m making a referral to CSC I need the consent of the family if it’s just for support, I can only do it without consent if I have safeguarding concerns and even then I would inform the family unless it was unsafe to do so. As PP have mentioned, the threshold for CSC is high and the home environment would factor if it suggested neglect- household clutter does not normally come into this category unless it was extreme (like hording). We have something called the clutter scale (you can google it) it helps us visualise what concerning clutter would look like and I’m sure will put your mind at rest! I hope your DP gets better soon.

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if we do it also we will tell the person. We don’t need consent to do so. But we will let them know.

I think regarding the visit you’re fine. I don’t think you need to worry about the room at all. It’s not messy

PunnyPlumPanda · 10/04/2026 17:02

Sophie2082 · 10/04/2026 15:29

He clarified to me he considers adhd a learning disability and he does have adhd so that is not a lie.

You need to let him know the nhs doesn’t class it as a learning disability.

it only takes a quick Google.

PunnyPlumPanda · 10/04/2026 17:05

GalaxyStarsMoon · 10/04/2026 15:30

You can always get a GP appointment if you need one.

Thats not always true. I rang last week and the receptionist told me there was nothing available and to ring 111. I told them I just needed to send them a picture and get a GP to look at it but was again told to ring 111. So I did. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Agree

been trying to get one with my GP for 8 months! Honestly it’s for a breast lump and when I finally got one she refused to refer me as she couldn’t feel anything. My father and grandmother just died of breast cancer so I’m probably a little anxious about t

sl back to square one about breast lump.

PunnyPlumPanda · 10/04/2026 17:08

justasking111 · 10/04/2026 16:08

My son was like the OPs husband last year. He was in a side room. Intravenous drugs, they thought meningitis. He was in for eight days.

@Sophie2082 must be very worried about her DH and managing a baby. I suggest she uses her friends network so she can visit her husband and get some answers leaving baby with a friend.

Is your son ok? Oh my gosh. That sounds like a most worrying time for you all. !

Booooooooom · 10/04/2026 17:09

Btw HCA healthcare do send notes to the Gp but I suspect your dh didn’t give them their details which is why they haven’t. They will always ask as they always prefer to keep the GP informed.

historyismything82 · 10/04/2026 17:10

@Sophie2082 You have nothing to worry about. Can I ask, genuinely are you alright? Do you have a support network? X

MerseyChick · 10/04/2026 17:19

Sophie2082 · 10/04/2026 11:35

He just feeds all the time. I was tidying and now he wants a feed..cant do that with a sling. He does play with toys for a bit then wants a feed..

Could you try weaning onto a bottle? It would keep them fuller for longer

Sophie2082 · 10/04/2026 17:30

LIZS · 10/04/2026 16:42

Op, is there any chance you too are neurodiverse? Your responses seem very reactive and dispassionate. What support can you access to give you a bit of a break while he is unwell? Did you see any nurses while you were at the hospital, they can explain what he is being tested and treated for or potentially diagnoses.

I did see the nurse. Unfortunately all they could tell me is that it isnt meningitis, but he is probably infectious so i should take my baby home and they would look after everything. And he is staying the night.

It apparently takes 3 days to test.

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watermybegonias · 10/04/2026 17:44

In the time you have been posting on here you could have tidied that room and put fresh sheets on the bed. If your baby cries while you are busy, so be it.

i am not convinced this thread is true anyway, things don’t add up.

StartingFreshFor2026 · 10/04/2026 17:55

PunnyPlumPanda · 10/04/2026 17:02

You need to let him know the nhs doesn’t class it as a learning disability.

it only takes a quick Google.

In fairness, in America and other countries they call ADHD a learning disability and they call an IQ of less than 70 an Intellectual Disability. Also, except in the NHS, the terms learning disability and difficulty are used pretty interchangeably. I used to deal with professionals who didn't know the difference.

As a parent of a child with an LD, I wish we used the term Intellectual Disability in the UK.

StartingFreshFor2026 · 10/04/2026 17:57

PunnyPlumPanda · 10/04/2026 17:05

Agree

been trying to get one with my GP for 8 months! Honestly it’s for a breast lump and when I finally got one she refused to refer me as she couldn’t feel anything. My father and grandmother just died of breast cancer so I’m probably a little anxious about t

sl back to square one about breast lump.

I got made by GP to do a telephone appointment for a breast lump once! Fucking ridiculous. I have so many examples that agree with OP about NHS GP care 😬

Feets · 10/04/2026 18:00

OP, I live in North London. You need to find a better GP practice. I fill in an E consult, and will get a response from the GP the same day. You don’t need to put up with this as there are many good GP practices in North London.

PunnyPlumPanda · 10/04/2026 18:01

Sophie2082 · 10/04/2026 17:30

I did see the nurse. Unfortunately all they could tell me is that it isnt meningitis, but he is probably infectious so i should take my baby home and they would look after everything. And he is staying the night.

It apparently takes 3 days to test.

I’ve had bacteria mennigitis

i literally couldn’t stand walk open my eyes or even move. I was so sick. I spent weeks in intensive care. 4 months recovering

if he is awake and talking to you coherently. He should be fine.

I went from being ok to being on deaths door within an hour…

I think the media have a lot of crap in worrying people about it.

youre so so so so sick you can’t do anything for weeks. You’re not on the phone or talking to people. It’s scary.

ate they talking about a lumbar puncture? That shouldn’t take 3 days to come back. Not seeing as it’s such a time critical illness.
There are rapid tests they can do if they suspect first. That will jot take 3 days…

when I went in I was in and tested within 45 mins. No joke. They were in quick

Periperi2025 · 10/04/2026 18:03

Paramedic here. I think the only time i've reported a baby to social services where the baby wasn't the reason we were there, was when we were called to a member of the household injured when someone had entered the property and attacked him with a hammer and the baby was present throughout.

Your house is untidy with a few days worth of normal 'life' backlogging. We go into houses that you need hazmat suits to enter and where you have to mentally prepare for the stench (obviously if there were kids living in that level of squalor then it would be reported), but that is vastly different to your situations.

Tryagain26 · 10/04/2026 18:06

BridgetJonesV2 · 10/04/2026 11:39

Honestly OP, it sounds like you're living in chaos and there's little excuse for it with a baby that age. If your DH can afford private healthcare constantly, can't you afford some help like a weekly cleaner?

It just sounds like a busy household with a baby and someone who is sick
OP I wouldn't worry unless the house is a health hazard and they think your baby is at risk the paramedics won't say anything. They were there to look after your husband so they would have been concentrating on him and why he felt he had to lie about having a learning disability.
That is very odd why didn't he just tell them he had private health care and give them the details of his private GP?

BinNightTonight · 10/04/2026 18:07

PunnyPlumPanda · 10/04/2026 17:05

Agree

been trying to get one with my GP for 8 months! Honestly it’s for a breast lump and when I finally got one she refused to refer me as she couldn’t feel anything. My father and grandmother just died of breast cancer so I’m probably a little anxious about t

sl back to square one about breast lump.

Im so sorry. Can you go down tomorrow morning first thing and explain you desperately need an appointment and the reason why?

You also can be referred for genetic testing given your family history, which will give you more checks Flowers

IDontHateRainbows · 10/04/2026 18:10

I have been very ill to the point of delirium and remember being asked my age at A and E and telling them a completely false number, about 12 years out so I get the hubby making up stuff thing. He won't know he's doing it.

Cardamomandlemons · 10/04/2026 18:13

Genuinely mean this really kindly...
If you address your anxiety (and based on the thread you may have at least a bit of anxiety) it will very likely help the baby become less anxious and clingy, which is a win win for both you and the baby.
Hope your husband feels better soon!