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Would paramedics refer me to social services if they didnt ask me anything

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Sophie2082 · 10/04/2026 11:27

Flat is very messy as husband is extremely poorly. Kitchen has dirty dishes. I am doing it on my own and baby is a velcro 9 month old and breastfeeds on demand. Typing this while he is suckling from me. Husband is so poorly he keeps vomitting into a baby potty (obviously never been used by baby, i just got it in advance)

He called the ambulance v early in the morning. He is sleeping in the spare room which has the baby changing table, baby wardrobe and a playmat with toys on the floor (noticed after paramedics left there was a cable on the floor). Honestly baby moves v slowly and i am usually with baby so will carry him off when he touches anything he shouldnt. He cosleeps with me in the master bedroom and the cot is full of clean clothes ( i put away some when i get a moment). Baby has never slept in it as he cosleeps (of course the ambulance staff dont know that but i think they saw it while standing in hallway).

They took husband away in ambulance, he honestly wasnt very lucid and kept saying he has a learning disability which means he cant reach his GP so no records of thr GP appointment. Truth is he has private health insurance so usually goes for private medical care do a & e staff can't see any records. He doesnt have a learning disability but has been diagnosed with adhd and he got a private antibiotics prescription yesterday.

They took my husband and left me with baby. No questions asked about baby but they did see baby as i was carrying him while talking to them.

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Sophie2082 · 13/04/2026 08:42

Predictably when i call the GP, the receptionist's first response is the nurse who does injections isn't in today can you submit an online request.

Ffs..no wonder my husband only goes private as that seems to my only option for MMR

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LIZS · 13/04/2026 08:54

Sophie2082 · 13/04/2026 08:42

Predictably when i call the GP, the receptionist's first response is the nurse who does injections isn't in today can you submit an online request.

Ffs..no wonder my husband only goes private as that seems to my only option for MMR

Did you explain there was urgency as your dh has been diagnosed? A GP can see your dc instead and the nurse would need to refer to them to vaccinate off schedule anyway.

Sophie2082 · 13/04/2026 08:58

LIZS · 13/04/2026 08:54

Did you explain there was urgency as your dh has been diagnosed? A GP can see your dc instead and the nurse would need to refer to them to vaccinate off schedule anyway.

Yes. They dont care.

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LIZS · 13/04/2026 09:07

Submit the online form then.

disturbia · 13/04/2026 09:08

Please call your Health Visitor who will help you with this.

Sophie2082 · 13/04/2026 09:09

LIZS · 13/04/2026 09:07

Submit the online form then.

Paying £130 for 11:30 am vaccine appointment. Not risking my son's health for this nonsense.
FFS

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Sophie2082 · 13/04/2026 09:12

disturbia · 13/04/2026 09:08

Please call your Health Visitor who will help you with this.

She came once and then disappeared. Like a unicorn that one.

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PurpleLovecats · 13/04/2026 09:29

Sophie2082 · 13/04/2026 08:42

Predictably when i call the GP, the receptionist's first response is the nurse who does injections isn't in today can you submit an online request.

Ffs..no wonder my husband only goes private as that seems to my only option for MMR

You don’t have to go private, just submit the online request and put all the information in that. This is the way most surgeries work.

Sophie2082 · 13/04/2026 09:31

PurpleLovecats · 13/04/2026 09:29

You don’t have to go private, just submit the online request and put all the information in that. This is the way most surgeries work.

I want it sorted today within the 72 hour window. That isnt likely as they say it takes 24 hours to process

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LIZS · 13/04/2026 09:48

They could still get you the jab today via an online request, most surgeries triage during the day. I’m surprised a private provider will do so without question.

Sophie2082 · 13/04/2026 10:02

LIZS · 13/04/2026 09:48

They could still get you the jab today via an online request, most surgeries triage during the day. I’m surprised a private provider will do so without question.

The doctor saw the form and wants the nurse to do it on wednesday. The receptionist told me to go to a & e if i am so desperate! The nurse is only in on wednesday and fridays. GP also cant see me today.

Private providers will give you same day appointments and they are happy to vaccinate at 9 months. I was told to bring red book and ID. Just paid deposit and they will see me at noon with baby

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QuinqueremeofNiveneh · 13/04/2026 10:09

I usually give people the benefit of the doubt and assume ALL original posters are authentic, but I am now very much doubting the veracity of this particular thread.

Measles, as previous posters have pointed out, @Sophie2082 is a notifiable disease. Which means that your local Health Protection Team would be involved in managing this case. It is absolutely not down to individual family members to coordinate prophylaxis.

Either this is fake or the public health function in London has broken down completely. There is no other alternative.

Sophie2082 · 13/04/2026 10:09

The person who said my husband has paranoia to distrust the system. I think you would be mad not to tbh.

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Sophie2082 · 13/04/2026 10:10

QuinqueremeofNiveneh · 13/04/2026 10:09

I usually give people the benefit of the doubt and assume ALL original posters are authentic, but I am now very much doubting the veracity of this particular thread.

Measles, as previous posters have pointed out, @Sophie2082 is a notifiable disease. Which means that your local Health Protection Team would be involved in managing this case. It is absolutely not down to individual family members to coordinate prophylaxis.

Either this is fake or the public health function in London has broken down completely. There is no other alternative.

Oh i am authentic.

I am in barnet where there is a measles outbreak in nearby enfield. perhaps there is a reason

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Sophie2082 · 13/04/2026 10:14

QuinqueremeofNiveneh · 13/04/2026 10:09

I usually give people the benefit of the doubt and assume ALL original posters are authentic, but I am now very much doubting the veracity of this particular thread.

Measles, as previous posters have pointed out, @Sophie2082 is a notifiable disease. Which means that your local Health Protection Team would be involved in managing this case. It is absolutely not down to individual family members to coordinate prophylaxis.

Either this is fake or the public health function in London has broken down completely. There is no other alternative.

DH's hospital notes. The health system in uk broke down a long time ago.

He was also discharged home and he is isolating from us.. dh has his own issues as eyes have gotten worse

Would paramedics refer me to social services if they didnt ask me anything
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QuinqueremeofNiveneh · 13/04/2026 10:15

Sophie2082 · 13/04/2026 10:10

Oh i am authentic.

I am in barnet where there is a measles outbreak in nearby enfield. perhaps there is a reason

So the private healthcare provider that you have an appointment with are happy to see you both, at clinic, knowing that you have been exposed to measles and one of you is unvaccinated?

And no one from public health has been in touch with you to discuss quarantine arrangements, contact tracing and other next steps?

I'm sorry, but this is completely unbelievable.

Only you can know your motivations for this, but it sounds an awful lot like a cooked up story to undermine the NHS and to spread misinformation and alarm.

Especially as you make other outlandish claims, like private doctors not contacting your GP with clinic letters. Utter drivel.

Sophie2082 · 13/04/2026 10:22

QuinqueremeofNiveneh · 13/04/2026 10:15

So the private healthcare provider that you have an appointment with are happy to see you both, at clinic, knowing that you have been exposed to measles and one of you is unvaccinated?

And no one from public health has been in touch with you to discuss quarantine arrangements, contact tracing and other next steps?

I'm sorry, but this is completely unbelievable.

Only you can know your motivations for this, but it sounds an awful lot like a cooked up story to undermine the NHS and to spread misinformation and alarm.

Especially as you make other outlandish claims, like private doctors not contacting your GP with clinic letters. Utter drivel.

Do you think there would be a measles outbreak if they had a lid on things.

https://www.mylondon.news/news/north-london-news/north-london-measles-cases-top-33482570

North London measles cases top 60 as outbreak continues to spread

The outbreak started in Enfield last month, with the number of infections reported at local hospitals continuing to rise since

https://www.mylondon.news/news/north-london-news/north-london-measles-cases-top-33482570

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Sophie2082 · 13/04/2026 10:41

QuinqueremeofNiveneh · 13/04/2026 10:15

So the private healthcare provider that you have an appointment with are happy to see you both, at clinic, knowing that you have been exposed to measles and one of you is unvaccinated?

And no one from public health has been in touch with you to discuss quarantine arrangements, contact tracing and other next steps?

I'm sorry, but this is completely unbelievable.

Only you can know your motivations for this, but it sounds an awful lot like a cooked up story to undermine the NHS and to spread misinformation and alarm.

Especially as you make other outlandish claims, like private doctors not contacting your GP with clinic letters. Utter drivel.

Tbf its 10:30 on a monday. This all happened over the weekend.

Perhaps its all happening in motion, just slowly.. i just wanted to get mmr asap, dont want to wait.even 111 said best to get it within 72 hours.

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Sophie2082 · 13/04/2026 12:41

QuinqueremeofNiveneh · 13/04/2026 10:15

So the private healthcare provider that you have an appointment with are happy to see you both, at clinic, knowing that you have been exposed to measles and one of you is unvaccinated?

And no one from public health has been in touch with you to discuss quarantine arrangements, contact tracing and other next steps?

I'm sorry, but this is completely unbelievable.

Only you can know your motivations for this, but it sounds an awful lot like a cooked up story to undermine the NHS and to spread misinformation and alarm.

Especially as you make other outlandish claims, like private doctors not contacting your GP with clinic letters. Utter drivel.

All vaccinated! Cost £139

Would paramedics refer me to social services if they didnt ask me anything
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Sophie2082 · 13/04/2026 12:49

QuinqueremeofNiveneh · 13/04/2026 10:15

So the private healthcare provider that you have an appointment with are happy to see you both, at clinic, knowing that you have been exposed to measles and one of you is unvaccinated?

And no one from public health has been in touch with you to discuss quarantine arrangements, contact tracing and other next steps?

I'm sorry, but this is completely unbelievable.

Only you can know your motivations for this, but it sounds an awful lot like a cooked up story to undermine the NHS and to spread misinformation and alarm.

Especially as you make other outlandish claims, like private doctors not contacting your GP with clinic letters. Utter drivel.

Private GP told me that nhs has no resources to vaccinate 9 month olds. And he does so many of these. Must make a killing charging £139 per baby!

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Onmytod24 · 13/04/2026 13:52

Well, either your private GP or yourself is very badly informed.

Sophie2082 · 13/04/2026 14:48

Onmytod24 · 13/04/2026 13:52

Well, either your private GP or yourself is very badly informed.

I truly called my nhs GP. They said the nurse isnt in today and doctor wouldnt do vaccines.

So i just paid and baby is vaccinated.

When newspapers say that nhs is on its knees, it isnt just hyperbole. I am sure the parents of the dead babies at lucy letby's hospital were told they were ill informed and delusional and making things up. But things going badly wrong isnt necessarily a dead baby. Often it is the culmination of a million small mistakes. Likewise wifh an epidemic.

It all started with mistakes, probably mistakes people don't believe happened.

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PunnyPlumPanda · 14/04/2026 07:34

BinNightTonight · 12/04/2026 08:40

They refused genetic testing or you did? If they did, then yes absolutely, you're entitled to that. Ive just been referred for it myself and the doctor went through the criteria with me, any first and second degree relative having breast cancer would get you the referral, but also having a male family member with breast cancer will get you the referral too. Sorry they arent listening to you x

Yup. They’ve point blank refused.

Crwysmam · 15/04/2026 00:43

PunnyPlumPanda · 14/04/2026 07:34

Yup. They’ve point blank refused.

You are not entitled to a blood test without referral first to the genetic team. GPs cannot do the actual test and a referral to the genetic team is usually from your consultant. If you are positive then they will extend testing to immediate family members, but only after counselling and thorough investigation of family history.
If you are diagnosed at a young age you are offered testing. But randomly testing without a diagnosis and without a known gene carrier in your immediate family it’s not recommended.

A referral to genetic testing does not guarantee you will have a test. You have to fill in an extensive questionnaire so the genetic team can work out your individual risk.

If a member of your extended family has tested positive to one of the genes they will then work out whether it is possible that you may have inherited the gene.

Factors that are important are the age of diagnosis and the type of breast cancer.
If all the members of your family who have had breast cancer were diagnosed post menopausally the likelihood of having the gene is incredibly low.

Not all cancers are related so those relatives are discounted.

My DSis had breast cancer at 34, she was automatically tested because of her age, she was negative. She was tested again when she had cancer 20yrs later. Her initial diagnosis was for ovarian cancer and gene, not known of at her first test, was tested for. She was negative. I was diagnosed with breast cancer at 57, was referred for assessment because of my sister but since she was negative and I was post menopause I had a much higher risk of spontaneous cancer unrelated to genetics, I wasn’t high risk so gene testing wasn’t advised.

Our chance of developing cancer regardless of genes is very high. But it increases the older we get. Which is why we have a screening service available to all women.

For anyone who has a sister or mother who has had breast cancer you are generally offered early monitoring through a family clinic. Because my sister was diagnosed at 34 when I was 38 I had an annual check up with the family clinic and was offered a yearly mammogram until I was 50 when I was transferred to the main screening service. So I was effectively offered the same screening opportunity someone with the BRCA gene is offered

The genetic team have looked at family history on 3 occasions and have not seen a pattern suggesting gene involvement however they are happy for us to be re referred if further genes are identified that fit our family history.

The genetics team are a national body and when you are referred they ask permission to contact immediate family to get consent to pull their medical history to do a full assessment. It takes a bit of time. It’s only once they have done the research that you are referred for gene testing.If my sister had had a positive result after her two diagnosis’s then we would have been offered the test. Unfortunately the ovarian cancer turned out to be pancreatic cancer and we lost her soon after. Again her gene testing for the newer gene was negative.

PunnyPlumPanda · 15/04/2026 04:10

Crwysmam · 15/04/2026 00:43

You are not entitled to a blood test without referral first to the genetic team. GPs cannot do the actual test and a referral to the genetic team is usually from your consultant. If you are positive then they will extend testing to immediate family members, but only after counselling and thorough investigation of family history.
If you are diagnosed at a young age you are offered testing. But randomly testing without a diagnosis and without a known gene carrier in your immediate family it’s not recommended.

A referral to genetic testing does not guarantee you will have a test. You have to fill in an extensive questionnaire so the genetic team can work out your individual risk.

If a member of your extended family has tested positive to one of the genes they will then work out whether it is possible that you may have inherited the gene.

Factors that are important are the age of diagnosis and the type of breast cancer.
If all the members of your family who have had breast cancer were diagnosed post menopausally the likelihood of having the gene is incredibly low.

Not all cancers are related so those relatives are discounted.

My DSis had breast cancer at 34, she was automatically tested because of her age, she was negative. She was tested again when she had cancer 20yrs later. Her initial diagnosis was for ovarian cancer and gene, not known of at her first test, was tested for. She was negative. I was diagnosed with breast cancer at 57, was referred for assessment because of my sister but since she was negative and I was post menopause I had a much higher risk of spontaneous cancer unrelated to genetics, I wasn’t high risk so gene testing wasn’t advised.

Our chance of developing cancer regardless of genes is very high. But it increases the older we get. Which is why we have a screening service available to all women.

For anyone who has a sister or mother who has had breast cancer you are generally offered early monitoring through a family clinic. Because my sister was diagnosed at 34 when I was 38 I had an annual check up with the family clinic and was offered a yearly mammogram until I was 50 when I was transferred to the main screening service. So I was effectively offered the same screening opportunity someone with the BRCA gene is offered

The genetic team have looked at family history on 3 occasions and have not seen a pattern suggesting gene involvement however they are happy for us to be re referred if further genes are identified that fit our family history.

The genetics team are a national body and when you are referred they ask permission to contact immediate family to get consent to pull their medical history to do a full assessment. It takes a bit of time. It’s only once they have done the research that you are referred for gene testing.If my sister had had a positive result after her two diagnosis’s then we would have been offered the test. Unfortunately the ovarian cancer turned out to be pancreatic cancer and we lost her soon after. Again her gene testing for the newer gene was negative.

They were men…..

that’s why they above person said genetic testing would be appropriate and with how many on my family have had it also.