Whatever Atrocity is Next... - Trump Thread #154

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I actually put this as a 'placeholder' title whilst I tried to think of a better one. But then, on reflection, copy editing didn't seem necessary.

Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5479042-blackmail-bluster-and-batshit-bonkers-trump-thread-153

Soooo, perfectly possible to deal with people actually breaking a law by arresting them, @Carpediemtoday ?

No need to shoot them dead for not breaking the law?

I belive they are saying that a couple dozen people were arrested yesterday for property damage, which is as it should be.

What's your point @Carpediemtoday? And why are you here on this thread? If you want to do some trolling, why not fuck off to any one of the other threads with the pro-maga posters?

That CNN clip doesn't show protestors fighting

Latest news is that the ICE agents involved in Alex Pretti shooting have been placed on leave"

I am absolutely heartbroken that Alex Pretti lost his life. He seemed such a wonderful guy. But I am confused. The week before he was shot he was involved in another fight with ICE agents, because he was impeding their work. He broke a rib but walked away alive. I cannot believe that the following week not only did he go back again to confront ICE agents but this time took a gun and rounds of ammunition. Maybe he was still very angry or he felt he needed to protect himself more.

🙄

A bit more Bruce Springsteen

Please educate yourself about the right to carry a gun at all times in Minnesota
and
about the legal powers, or lack thereof, of ICE

Have a nice day now.

Some light relief.

Taken from Facebook:

When Ben Terris arrived at the Oval Office in December to talk to Donald Trump about his health, the president was standing next to a couple of men clutching pieces of paper labeled TALKING POINTS.

“These are two doctors,” Trump told Terris. “And by the way, I don’t know them, they’re not my best friends. They’re respected doctors that practice out of Walter Reed. And they happen to be taking care of me for anything - but I don’t need any taking care of because I’m in perfect health. I do purposely every year or less a physical, because I think the American people should know that the president is healthy so you don’t get a guy like the last one, who was the worst thing that ever happened to older people. Because I know people in their 90s that are 100 percent. Gary Player is 90 years old. He shot 70 with me the other day.”

Trump gestured at everyone present to follow him into the room. “Let’s sit for a couple of minutes,” he said. “I hate to waste a lot of time on this, but if you’re going to write a bad story about my health, I’m going to sue the ass off of ‘New York’ Magazine. There will be a time when you can write that story, maybe in two years, three years, five years - five years, no one is going to care, I guess. Go ahead and sit down.”

In 2 or 3 years? He does know he’s still supposed to be President then, right?!

Yes I agree, it is perfectly possible to calmly deal with people and arrest them. ICE is doing just that in lots of other states. Why is Minnesota the only state where it is so difficult and violent and two protestors have been killed. Could it be that the local police help ICE in other states, so the situation in calmer. Could it be that Minnesota is a sanctuary state so the local police do not have to hand over known illegals, or tell ICE agents where they live so ICE have to go looking for them.

Wow, we have us a live one! 🙄

That’s the interview that he talked about that disease his dad had that made him forget things. And he couldn’t remember the name of it and had to point to his head and look to an aid for help.

Did Walz start issuing dispersal orders for anti-ICE protestors before or after he got on the phone to Trump and convinced him to start withdrawing ICE agents from Minneapolis? I don’t think he’s protecting ICE he’s trying to de-escalate a situation that has lead to 2 protestors being shot dead in a week. One of whom was trying to escape ICE agents and the other was protecting another protestor. Trying to get rid of the ICE agents while dispersing this protestors that are causing trouble and arresting the ones breaking the law seems like the reasonable option.

And yes, just imagine if we had an actual adult in the room anywhere in the White House.

Thanks. I’m not looking on the hell site 🤨

Have you read Chris Madel’s comments?
He refers to a campaign of retribution against the state by federal authorities.

What’s that smell, 👃 is it an agenda? Surely not

🙄Actually I have. I am not questioning about his right to carry a gun. I am just pointing out and would like to know if he carried one the week before, when he was involved in another confrontation with ICE and broke a rib? Obviously not otherwise we would have heard about it. So he did not carry a gun all the time.

Do you think you are fooling anyone with this disingenuous tripe?

Irrelevant.
He had the right to and chose to on that day (2nd Amendment)

ICE have no right to break and enter houses (4th Amendment)
Minnesota politicians have the right to oppose Trump's policies (1st Amendment)

"Illegals" who are already in the asylum system are ineligible for rendition by ICE.

Random YouTube links don’t count as reliable sources.

😂😂😂

ICE ICE baby 🥶

Either they’ve name changed (I doubt) or they’ve picked an unusual first thread to become quite so invested in.

These accounts seem to be a similar scheme to the UK's now defunct Child Trust Fund scheme.

I note that Trump is putting his actual name on the accounts – like in his first term when IIRC he wanted to put have his signature printed on government cheques. So his cult will feel he personally is giving them money, rather than that it's coming from the taxpayer.

And of course there will be a lot of devil in the detail about how the money is actually invested.

IIUC in the UK most of the money was not managed centrally: banks offered CTF products and parents could choose which. However if the parents did not act then a default account was opened for the child.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_trust_fund

The story seems to be true, although not officially confirmed. I didn't go on the hellsite, but did look it up.

@Carpediemtoday I won't respond to you any more, but I want to correct one thing. Alex Pretti didn't break a rib. ICE broke Alex Pretti's rib. And then, because he was moral and brave, he went back out to defend people like the woman who had been pushed over.

Bye now.