Just stop oil morons

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I've just seen 2 just stop oil idiots have vandalised stonehenge. Wtf is wrong with these utter morons?! I actually feel really angry and just a day before the solstice. I don't understand what they think this kind of stupidity achieves? Certainly not support for their cause and beliefs. The historian commenting said it best 'Parade your concern for the planet by destroying endangered lichens. Sympathy transmuted into utter loathing.'

Isn't it just the unadulterated joy of the self righteous? A modern day martyr?

I find myself in an odd position with just stop oil. I know that the climate is changing, I can see and read about it with my own eyes and ears. I know that science has a sound reasoning for pointing in the direction of fossil fuels as a likely cause of irreversible damage that at best we can only limit now and yet….

I think I admire those who do take action under the banner of just stop oil. I can hold all the knowledge of what needs to be done for our best chances and be fearful of what that means but still manage to bury my head in the sand and carry on unaffected. I don’t really know why, it’s easier until there’s a problem I can’t avoid maybe? Yet here are a group of people who have that same knowledge and chose to be galvanised into action by that fear. The age and societal distribution is fascinating too.

aside from the publicity, their view is very much, here we are, getting all outraged over historical artefacts - why? Because we want future generations to have them? But we don’t care about the impact of oil on future generations?

the time is getting nearer that reserves of oil will be depleted (I believe we’ve already passed peak oil I.e supply will only dwindle from this point onwards) so now is the time to adjust our usage and sources of energy rather than when it’s foisted on us through scarcity.

The ecosystems we rely on for human life are dying.

Your children will suffer for it if we don't do something drastic very soon. How are you dealing with that fact?

It's not complicated. You don't break or damage things that aren't yours. Two wrongs don't make a right

I can’t engage with irrationality it is too frustrating.

I feel the same.

I don't damage things that arent mine and have basic respect for others. It serves me well

Ah, so they're not just enjoying being twats, as you put it before. They think they're doing good.

But what are you actually doing to stop the destruction of your children's home?

Do you have trouble with reading?

But it is not working is it. Even on this thread people are not talking about about the move away from fossil fuels, they are talking about the numpty protesters.

What are you doing @Begsthequestion ? And does it really make a difference?

It very much is

I agree with you.

They do all that - pouring stuff over places with links to Big Oil - but no one cares or hears about it.

I'm not sure what to do. I do admire JSO but I don't have it in me to join them right now. I'm not sure what to do about it. Except worry, really. And soon it'll be too late to do much.

What do you reply to your own question? I am against violence so obviously I would have seen that on the news and thought about the meaning. Seeing the destruction today makes me hope for prison for these idiots and that they pay the cost of their actions.
So the definitions as asked for before? No answer?

They used to get their expenses paid by someone. I'm not sure if that is still the case, I think the patron got a bit upset with some of the things they did.

It was fine when BLM were at it with the statues. I don’t even think those people were convicted. Lichen however seems to concern more people than dead colonolists.

So that's a no, then. You know that holding a banner is not going to change anything.

And I agree with you, it won't.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Can anyone suggest something we can legitimately do to prevent ecological disaster for the entire planet?

I'm hearing your condemnation and I'm looking out for solutions.

Do what do you propose as a protest? Violence?

I'm asking questions about what to do. I don't know what to do

Invest in science. Have a level of acceptance that you can’t control everything and sometimes you have to just throw your hands in the air and hope for the best.

The whole point is to do attention grabbing stunts to make headlines and get people talking, and here we are. I agree with them and i am terrified by our lack of effective climate action.