Just stop oil morons

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I've just seen 2 just stop oil idiots have vandalised stonehenge. Wtf is wrong with these utter morons?! I actually feel really angry and just a day before the solstice. I don't understand what they think this kind of stupidity achieves? Certainly not support for their cause and beliefs. The historian commenting said it best 'Parade your concern for the planet by destroying endangered lichens. Sympathy transmuted into utter loathing.'

We don't know that yet. Also, it does not matter whether the site is not damaged, it is the fact that picked a target that is universally venerated and will just backfire as a protest. Yes they are in the news, yes they are being talked about, but for all the wrong reasons.

Although it does rather beg the question, how thick do you have to be to be in denial about climate change, if you are not convinced now, there is no hope! Funny way of phrasing it ‘their cause’, I mean ‘all’ humans exist in the Climate, it is all our cause in that sense!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0p6ll3jjgo

I think they already are.

How can you get to Stonehenge without using fossil fuels? I bet the protestors went by an oil powered vehicle.

I don't think that's really the point.

It's a very very good point actually.

Again, it literally has no relevance, just like being middle class and clueless are not the same things.

They could have stood there, after getting to Stonehenge by walking. Raised a banner at the solstice. I don’t agree with violence. They don’t have my support after destroying national heritage.

Again, it literally has no relevance, just like being middle class and clueless are not the same things.

It was my experience of them, along with being arseholes. Move on.

Do people on here with children care that they and your grandkids might well live miserably and die a very painful death due to climate change?

I don't know what the solution is, but it does get me down, personally.

Please explain?

Being talked about........for all the wrong reasons. They are just crap at focused PR, the methods of protest, and the time rich plummy voiced public school types who they use a spokespeople just annoy people.

You didn't answer my question though

I've explained upthread why they see all PR as good PR. You've basically picked out all the reasons they choose to act as they do, you just don't see why it's successful for them.

How thick would you have to be to make yourself so repulsively unlikeable to a population who you need to mobilise to make big changes in their own lives and to societal infrastructure?

Unless, of course, you just liked being a twat?

But it doesn't. Literally no one on this thread bar you and the other pro poster are thinking anything at all about climate change. Or oil. Or stopping anything.... Except perhaps natural selection

Do you think stupidity is their motivation? Or just malice?

so your knowledge of the activists that you came across in your job (?h is that they are Vegans, have Arts degrees, middle class etc. etc and this was all intrinsically linked to the crimes they committed as Activists- sorry, still not following your logic.

Why don't you care about your children's future?

So your question ‘do peaceful protests ever work? What do you exactly mean by ‘work’? And what is your definition of ‘peaceful’ and ‘protest’?

sorry, still not following your logic.

It's ok. That was apparent from the start.

You can take the tiniest trip into Twitter, Facebook, Instagram or chat to a colleague or a friend (if you have any? - see, we can both make snipey comments) to understand they've been incredibly successful at hammering their message home. We all know what JSO want and we can all name a few things they've done in the name of the cause. They're intrinsically linked to climate protest in people's minds.

I can’t engage with irrationality it is too frustrating.

We can use your example.

Do you think walking to Stonehenge and holding up a banner will get us off our current path towards ecological catastrophe?

I do. I would've liked them to see stonehendge as it was before cretins damaged it. I'll raise my children to love our planet AND not be mindless cunts with no respect. Contrary to just stop oil members, both are actually possible