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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

'Pregnancy is a choice' 'Pregnancy is not an illness', 'to help the recession we should cut all maternity benefits'

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Bumperlicious · 08/06/2010 20:01

These are all things that were said on my work newsgroups today (think mumnset, but misogynistic twats).

How do you deal with attitudes like this? I know I shouldn't engage, especially not at work and need to remember that it is not mumsnet, but I couldn't help myself so I just said that I though it was more of a choice to not have children than to have children, and listed all of the numerous symptoms I have been suffering this pregnancy and said tell me now it's not an illness. I also said that maternity rights and sex discrimination laws exists to protect against such attitudes.

I'm just astounded that people would say things like that I am not sure of the best way to respond, bearing in mind this is a corporate system. I know I am just being sensitive because it is so salient for me, but such wankers really get on my nerves. And they won't be reasoned with, they will just carry on with their twatish ways.

My previous boss also tried the whole 'it's your choice to have children' thing. I just think that it is such a crappy thing to say but just can't articulate a response.

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EnglandAllenPoe · 08/06/2010 20:12

i think it is very dodgy territory for a workplace discussion!

appearance of discriminatory environment anyone?<

point out that if their GF / wife gets PG, they both have a child, it is only the woman who gets pg though - so to not help out the woman is discriminatory (as both have a child...and only women will ever be PG)

not to mention that ending child poverty is a worthy long term project.

Bumperlicious · 08/06/2010 20:10

I don't know them (large org) but yes, essentially colleagues, and yes, men. Public sector would you believe?

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dittany · 08/06/2010 20:09

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Bumperlicious · 08/06/2010 20:08

I think they think it is ok to have children, just that the government shouldn't be funding it , oh, and probably that woman shouldn't even be working anyway (they didn't say that, but you get the idea).

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wonderingwondering · 08/06/2010 20:07

It's my choice to have children, who will pay your pension, sweep the roads, keep the economy ticking and care for you when you are infirm etc.

And yes it is my choice to be pregnant, but it is not my choice to be ill or incapacitated for these few short months, just like you don't choose to have flu or break your leg, but these things sometimes happen. Part of being a human being.

And finally - the way you are speaking is discriminatory, ignorant and offensive, and if it continues I shall have to make a formal complaint to senior managers. And do it.

dittany · 08/06/2010 20:04

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