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Shedmistress · 11/11/2026 11:55

This bill is the best example of 'they didnt think it through did they?'

akkakk · 11/11/2026 12:00

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 09/11/2026 04:07

Hadley Freeman who's repeatedly defended Woody Allen and called the woman who accused him of child abuse a fabulist, right.

That Hadley Freeman.

Anyway, she's spectacularly inaccurate and knows it. This Bill closes a loophole in child abuse law which allows 'Christian' groups to cause kids lifelong cPTSD by offering fake cures for being LGBTQIA+.

And makes sure abusive parents can't call harming their queer kids a 'belief '. While reminding those kids that all child abuse is illegal and can never be excused.

It is already illegal to verbally terrorise your child and harm them.

Anyone opposing this, is part of the grifting, abusive 'cure' scene (i.e. rich Christian groups) or an abusive parent. Or a terf whose conscience about how they treat trans children is being pricked.

It does not criminalise parents for conversation. Police and social services will still only turn up when a child is being terrorised - and still likely do absolutely nothing.

They will still look stern, fill in forms and do absolutely f*ck-all to remove children from abusive homes in the vast majority of cases, because they prioritise keeping families together.

Terf parents on here are being reminded that treating their trans child like s*it for being trans is a form of abuse. And that they were meant to respect, protect and nurture the kids they rejected and now furiously post about for clicks. Good.

So let's get this clear...

you are anti child abuse... (great!)

but you are all for surgical mutilation, genital development suppression, hormonal abuse and psychological abuse in lying to a child that they can change sex? (right...)

and anyone who tries to avoid all those forms of child abuse is somehow the abuser?

mmm

overnightangel · 11/11/2026 12:06

Daily reminder that there’s no such thing as “trans kids”

Grammarnut · 11/11/2026 13:10

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 09/11/2026 04:07

Hadley Freeman who's repeatedly defended Woody Allen and called the woman who accused him of child abuse a fabulist, right.

That Hadley Freeman.

Anyway, she's spectacularly inaccurate and knows it. This Bill closes a loophole in child abuse law which allows 'Christian' groups to cause kids lifelong cPTSD by offering fake cures for being LGBTQIA+.

And makes sure abusive parents can't call harming their queer kids a 'belief '. While reminding those kids that all child abuse is illegal and can never be excused.

It is already illegal to verbally terrorise your child and harm them.

Anyone opposing this, is part of the grifting, abusive 'cure' scene (i.e. rich Christian groups) or an abusive parent. Or a terf whose conscience about how they treat trans children is being pricked.

It does not criminalise parents for conversation. Police and social services will still only turn up when a child is being terrorised - and still likely do absolutely nothing.

They will still look stern, fill in forms and do absolutely f*ck-all to remove children from abusive homes in the vast majority of cases, because they prioritise keeping families together.

Terf parents on here are being reminded that treating their trans child like s*it for being trans is a form of abuse. And that they were meant to respect, protect and nurture the kids they rejected and now furiously post about for clicks. Good.

Every word you write proves how dangerous this Bill is to children who need protecting from gender ideology and people like you, not concerned parents and others who know you cannot change sex and that wrong-sex hormones and 'trans affiriming' surgery lead to irreversible harm and damage. Go away.

Grammarnut · 11/11/2026 13:11

Shedmistress · 11/11/2026 11:55

This bill is the best example of 'they didnt think it through did they?'

A bit like the Gender Recognition Act, then.

Rockyroadminibites · 11/11/2026 19:27

Grammarnut · 11/11/2026 13:11

A bit like the Gender Recognition Act, then.

Activist led - like the Assisted Dying Bill. The MPs supporting that either never read the bill and relied on activist talking points or had read it and lied about it.

TheKeatingFive · 11/11/2026 19:30

I find it really scary that these disastrously written bills are being taken seriously. Where are the legal guys here? Why is there no due diligence?

I get that Stonewall has shaped this utter mess, but what happened to the oversight? Surely it’s someone’s job to ensure these bills are workable?

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 11/11/2026 19:43

TheKeatingFive · 11/11/2026 19:30

I find it really scary that these disastrously written bills are being taken seriously. Where are the legal guys here? Why is there no due diligence?

I get that Stonewall has shaped this utter mess, but what happened to the oversight? Surely it’s someone’s job to ensure these bills are workable?

It's as if running the country on "feelz" means that the law can be fuzzy, and imprecise as long as it's motives are just.

EasternStandard · 11/11/2026 19:46

TheKeatingFive · 11/11/2026 19:30

I find it really scary that these disastrously written bills are being taken seriously. Where are the legal guys here? Why is there no due diligence?

I get that Stonewall has shaped this utter mess, but what happened to the oversight? Surely it’s someone’s job to ensure these bills are workable?

Tbf the GRA has caused so many issues the next pieces of legislation are just more of that.

UtopiaPlanitia · 11/11/2026 20:08

TheKeatingFive · 11/11/2026 19:30

I find it really scary that these disastrously written bills are being taken seriously. Where are the legal guys here? Why is there no due diligence?

I get that Stonewall has shaped this utter mess, but what happened to the oversight? Surely it’s someone’s job to ensure these bills are workable?

Legislators have become increasingly bad at drafting legislation. A lot of it is lack of relevant experience in their career background, some of it because they don’t fully understand the issue they’re claiming to tackle, often they’re more interested in receiving kudos from activists rather than speaking to all affected parties, they’re often remarkably short-sighted when it comes to unexpected consequences from legislation, and a lot of them want to legislate because they think, ‘I don’t like X,Y or Z so I’m going to ban/regulate it’.

We also have an increasing number of badly-written laws on the books because of social pressure groups/campaigners pushing MPs to support a particular piece of legislation.

Legislators increasingly seem to feel that they are duty bound to control the lives of their fellow citizens

Rockyroadminibites · 11/11/2026 21:10

I think more and more of the civil servants are themselves activists - who then recruit more activists. ‘DEI’ makes this worse recruiting to meet criteria rather than for ability. I think many departments no longer respond to the government’s direction and are far from impartial.

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 11/11/2026 23:49

I also believe that government/governance and oversight has become, at best, ineffective in the past 10-15 years. At worst, it's deliberately destructive of society.

We seem to be living in a Post-Truth Age when everyone can just lie about everything and they have to face the music only when (if) someone finds out about the lies and makes the lie public. Almost as though "truth" is something fluid, and laws mean something only if you get caught.

I always blame social media and the ability it gives people to hide behind anonymity, the unbelievable speed of news now, and people's lack of attention span. This morning's lie is buried underneath this evening's news, and everyone forgets that anyone ever lied.

If you do this often enough, and you have activists doing this in collaboration with lawmakers/politicians, you can create policy and law without anyone realizing before it's too late.

Rockyroadminibites · 12/11/2026 07:43

It goes back further than 10-15 years - into the Blair years. It became noticeable when the Tories took power because that is when the conflicts between civil service and government started to become apparent.

Hoardasurass · 12/11/2026 10:05

ChequerToRed · 09/11/2026 14:05

There’s some potentially massive unintended consequences with the proposed bill, that I doubt it’s vociferous supporters, busy dreaming of ways they can weaponise it, haven’t considered. A glaring one is discussed on the most recent This Isn’t Working podcast, which relates to the section on corporate responsibility. Sounds great to the short sighted, but there’s a very real possibility that it’ll make trans people and their more obnoxious allies virtually unemployable.
No sensible company would want to risk potential trouble, especially as the proposed bill in its current form creates a clash between the recent single sex space legal clarification and the new bill. How do you balance, for instance, telling a trans employee they can’t use the opposite sex changing room as per the Equality Act clarification, with the same employee’s new ability to report their employer to the police because the exchange made them feel like it denied their gender identity?
HR nightmare. Best to shuffle them out in the next wave of redundancies or just not take them on the first place with a nice, bland, boilerplate rejection letter that provides no potential ammunition, or go with the awful new trend of just ghosting them altogether.
In light of recent studies showing CVs with declared pronouns are already more likely to be filed into the bin, it could be a big own goal for trans activists.

As it will also cover service users and customers i can see them being refused services aswell

Hoardasurass · 12/11/2026 10:10

nicepotoftea · 09/11/2026 15:24

It is already illegal to verbally terrorise your child and harm them.

So what is the loophole that needs to be closed?

Atheism especially of gender ideology

Rockyroadminibites · 12/11/2026 10:12

It is like Pakistan’s blasphemy laws that are regularly weaponised against the persecuted Christian minority.

EdithStourton · 12/11/2026 10:43

TPA is indeed well aware of that thread and posted on it early on claiming that we are all obsessed with the genitals of children for sexual reasons.
Da fuk?

Sorry, very late to this party, but what the actual hell?

And there was me, thinking we just wanted to children to grow into happy, unmutilated adults....

And yes, there is currently far too much activist impact on legislation. Noisy, sometimes astroturfed organisations, who only seem to read science and evidence with an eye to cherry picking what suits, end up with disproportionate influence because they are very media-savvy.

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