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The Conservatives may be the only party left where women and LGB people can speak freely about their rights

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IwantToRetire · 15/10/2026 18:19

I went to hear some exquisitely well-presented Conservative women talk with passion and intellect about the Equality Act.

Looking at these hyper professional and dedicated party members, it occurred to me that the Tories would never be my spiritual home. But despite that, I don’t think there’s another party out there where women would be so welcome to speak about their rights; nor lesbians, gays and bisexuals theirs. And for that, I am grateful.

full article at https://www.terftimes.com/p/bean-at-the-tory-conference/

Reconstruction of events at Tory Conference

Bean at the Tory Conference | TERF Times

First published in The Critic magazine. The Conservatives may be the only party left where women and LGB people can speak freely about their rights

https://www.terftimes.com/p/bean-at-the-tory-conference/

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user293948849167 · 15/10/2026 18:28

I am surprised to find myself agreeing with the Conservative Party quite often these days!

orthrywreeinvicedifthe · 15/10/2026 18:58

The Conservatives who were in power and beckoned in the whole TWAW period?

IwantToRetire · 15/10/2026 19:19

orthrywreeinvicedifthe · 15/10/2026 18:58

The Conservatives who were in power and beckoned in the whole TWAW period?

I am no Tory supporter, but just like under Burnham some Labour policies have changed, thankfully under Badenoch some policies have changed.

Although in fact I think the last paragraph of the article is its main point.

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DorsetKnobBiscuit · 15/10/2026 19:30

"exquisitely well-presented" ???

UnaPersson · 15/10/2026 19:58

Lots of us seem to like Kemi Badenoch, but if we vote Conservative they might replace her with Penny Mordaunt, who I read the other day has been 'cleared for leadership' whatever that means.

IIRC, PM thinks TWAW. Happy to be proved wrong on this. Wasn't Teresa May similarly inclined?

IwantToRetire · 15/10/2026 20:01

DorsetKnobBiscuit · 15/10/2026 19:30

"exquisitely well-presented" ???

If you bothered to read the article you would understand.

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DorsetKnobBiscuit · 15/10/2026 20:07

IwantToRetire · 15/10/2026 20:01

If you bothered to read the article you would understand.

I did read the article. I couldn't see the relevance of how the women were presented to what she/they were saying.

Mum4MrA · 15/10/2026 20:11

DorsetKnobBiscuit · 15/10/2026 20:07

I did read the article. I couldn't see the relevance of how the women were presented to what she/they were saying.

I think it relates to the fact that the writer had spilt food on her top.

DorsetKnobBiscuit · 15/10/2026 20:24

Mum4MrA · 15/10/2026 20:11

I think it relates to the fact that the writer had spilt food on her top.

Thank you. I wondered if that was the case given the ridiculous drawing but thought that commenting and comparing women's appearance was a strange way to start the article.

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · 15/10/2026 21:59

IwantToRetire · 15/10/2026 18:19

I went to hear some exquisitely well-presented Conservative women talk with passion and intellect about the Equality Act.

Looking at these hyper professional and dedicated party members, it occurred to me that the Tories would never be my spiritual home. But despite that, I don’t think there’s another party out there where women would be so welcome to speak about their rights; nor lesbians, gays and bisexuals theirs. And for that, I am grateful.

full article at https://www.terftimes.com/p/bean-at-the-tory-conference/

I thought of the women in the party, including its leader, Kemi Badenoch, who have put their heads above the parapet and weathered accusations of transphobia.

Criticism isn't censorship.

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · 15/10/2026 22:34

IwantToRetire · 15/10/2026 19:19

I am no Tory supporter, but just like under Burnham some Labour policies have changed, thankfully under Badenoch some policies have changed.

Although in fact I think the last paragraph of the article is its main point.

Being that you can shout from the roof tops any hateful thing you like in the conservative party & they won't abandon you? Well, duh. If it appeals to their hateful party base why not?

ScrollingLeaves · 15/10/2026 22:47

orthrywreeinvicedifthe · 15/10/2026 18:58

The Conservatives who were in power and beckoned in the whole TWAW period?

…. and began to turn the tide while Labour, the Liberal Democrat’s, and the Greens dug their heels in.

The Gender Recognition Bill and The Equality Act were Labour.

orthrywreeinvicedifthe · 15/10/2026 22:53

ScrollingLeaves · 15/10/2026 22:47

…. and began to turn the tide while Labour, the Liberal Democrat’s, and the Greens dug their heels in.

The Gender Recognition Bill and The Equality Act were Labour.

But this thread is about the Conservatives.

The brought in the tide and then panicked.

ScrollingLeaves · 15/10/2026 22:56

DorsetKnobBiscuit · 15/10/2026 20:24

Thank you. I wondered if that was the case given the ridiculous drawing but thought that commenting and comparing women's appearance was a strange way to start the article.

The difference between her attire and theirs - her bean and cheese smudged shirt compared to their smartness - is being used as a metaphor to illustrate how different she is from them.

This means that it is more unexpected and noticeable that in this argument she finds herself in agreement.

The reference to appearances is a literary device.

ScrollingLeaves · 15/10/2026 23:05

orthrywreeinvicedifthe · 15/10/2026 22:53

But this thread is about the Conservatives.

The brought in the tide and then panicked.

Why did the Labour opposition, who started it, not panic themselves but, on the contrary, insist that TWAW? And now here they are bringing back the Conversion Therapy Ban Trojan horse for trans, and watering down the Keep Children Safe in Schools policy.

And why are the Greens and Liberal Democrat’s further into trans capture than ever?

The thread is about how the Conservatives may be the only hope. At least the best of a bad bunch.

(The Communists are ok too, so are the Social Democrats but neither has power obviously.)

Heggettypeg · 15/10/2026 23:12

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · 15/10/2026 21:59

I thought of the women in the party, including its leader, Kemi Badenoch, who have put their heads above the parapet and weathered accusations of transphobia.

Criticism isn't censorship.

You can hardly be unaware of the form that "criticism" tends to take when the target is a woman in the public eye.

Hint: it usually includes graphic threats of rape and death.

Another hint: threats cannot be assumed to be empty. MPs and ex-MPs have been murdered here.

Given that Kemi Badenoch is not only a woman, but gender critical, and Black, she is likely to have come in for more of this unpleasantness than most. Kudos to her for not giving in.

I say that as someone who does not vote Conservative.

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · 16/10/2026 00:30

Heggettypeg · 15/10/2026 23:12

You can hardly be unaware of the form that "criticism" tends to take when the target is a woman in the public eye.

Hint: it usually includes graphic threats of rape and death.

Another hint: threats cannot be assumed to be empty. MPs and ex-MPs have been murdered here.

Given that Kemi Badenoch is not only a woman, but gender critical, and Black, she is likely to have come in for more of this unpleasantness than most. Kudos to her for not giving in.

I say that as someone who does not vote Conservative.

Oh please. Men & women in the labour party never get threats? Threats come with political or any public territory male or female. Just because some don't weaponise them against minorities doesn't mean they don't happen.

Of course the right can hardly be considered as innocent of culpability for their female/non white politicians being exploited as useful idiots to do their dirty work & thereby wear the slings an arrows.

Wake up.

Heggettypeg · 16/10/2026 01:46

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · 16/10/2026 00:30

Oh please. Men & women in the labour party never get threats? Threats come with political or any public territory male or female. Just because some don't weaponise them against minorities doesn't mean they don't happen.

Of course the right can hardly be considered as innocent of culpability for their female/non white politicians being exploited as useful idiots to do their dirty work & thereby wear the slings an arrows.

Wake up.

It was you, not me, who minimised the relentless denigration and the threats thrown at politicians as "criticism".

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · 16/10/2026 01:53

Heggettypeg · 16/10/2026 01:46

It was you, not me, who minimised the relentless denigration and the threats thrown at politicians as "criticism".

The quote in the piece specifies criticisms of "transphobia" not death threats.

OhTheCowsInTheMeadowGoMoo · 16/10/2026 02:15

DorsetKnobBiscuit · 15/10/2026 19:30

"exquisitely well-presented" ???

That's what ladies are supposed to be like, and what we're judged on, dontcha know.

DeeperShadeofRed · 16/10/2026 07:41

The Tories are the reason so many rape support centres etc are struggling. They absolutely decimated local authority funding, especially in working class areas...

Swathes of children plunged into poverty, the rise of food banks under them...

Waspi women...

Many of the maternity scandals happened under their watch...

The list is endless.

Whilst they might acknowledge biological reality, Tories will never be on the side of women.

tripleginandtonic · 16/10/2026 07:44

orthrywreeinvicedifthe · 15/10/2026 18:58

The Conservatives who were in power and beckoned in the whole TWAW period?

This. Actions can speak louder than words.

DorsetKnobBiscuit · 16/10/2026 10:32

OhTheCowsInTheMeadowGoMoo · 16/10/2026 02:15

That's what ladies are supposed to be like, and what we're judged on, dontcha know.

To start a feminist piece by comparing women's presentation under a drawing of boobs with beany creamy goop on them seems a very peculiar thing.

Edited to add - the picture nor the bean story had anything at all to do with the content of the article.

IwantToRetire · 16/10/2026 17:43

DorsetKnobBiscuit · 16/10/2026 10:32

To start a feminist piece by comparing women's presentation under a drawing of boobs with beany creamy goop on them seems a very peculiar thing.

Edited to add - the picture nor the bean story had anything at all to do with the content of the article.

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Oh dear! This is the real world.

One of the points of posting articles on FWR is to make those who aren't aware how women's sex based rights are being presented to the public via news papers.

If you read the article you will see it has been published in 2 places.

And was written by a woman that many on FWR respect.

So if you have an issue with how the media and / or the author has chosen to put in the public domain a feminist issue then you should tell them!

Part of the function of FWR (and other forums) is to let others know what is being said about the issue, aims, whatever of the forum they are part of.

So in this instance as the OP has made you aware of this will you now contact both the original publisher and the author?

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DorsetKnobBiscuit · Yesterday 09:00

IwantToRetire · 16/10/2026 17:43

Oh dear! This is the real world.

One of the points of posting articles on FWR is to make those who aren't aware how women's sex based rights are being presented to the public via news papers.

If you read the article you will see it has been published in 2 places.

And was written by a woman that many on FWR respect.

So if you have an issue with how the media and / or the author has chosen to put in the public domain a feminist issue then you should tell them!

Part of the function of FWR (and other forums) is to let others know what is being said about the issue, aims, whatever of the forum they are part of.

So in this instance as the OP has made you aware of this will you now contact both the original publisher and the author?

Terf Times isn't a newspaper.
It's owned and run by the woman who wrote the article.
Who also writes for the Telegraph, Mail etc
She's presenting it exactly as she chose to do so.
If newspapers then go on to publish exactly what she's printed then that's her intention surely? I see it was published in The Critic (Reform/Reclaim/Laurence Fox/Toby Young/Peter Hitchens). Not exactly a feminist set up.

Why would she do that? The picture and the women comparing appearances?

Reinforcing stereotypes with a bit of hint at porn thrown in.

I can see how posters might respect her, but surely they see through this?

I live in the real world and have done so for 60 years now and that's why a see a woman peddling a picture of boobs with creamy sauce on and a story about how women are presented and how she compares herself with others.

That's not feminist surely?

And no, I'm not going to write to her. She knew exactly what she was doing and that was her aim. She's obviously trying to get the attention of the DM/Telegraph rage bait.