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ArabellaScott · 15/10/2026 09:23

'The Lib Dems are attempting to evict a 71-year-old founding member of the party who is suffering from incurable cancer from her home to pay its legal bill in a dispute against her.

Jo Hayes was a member of the party for 34 years, served on the party’s federal board and was regional chair for the East of England.
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The dispute began after Ms Hayes was expelled in 2022 shortly before she was due to stand in the election to be the party’s federal president after a complaint by the then incumbent president Lord Mark Pack who was subsequently reelected for a second term.

The expulsion was for bullying a staff member. But supporters have linked it to questioning some of the party’s policies on issues relating to equalities legislation in regards to trans rights.

Ms Hayes attempted to challenge her expulsion but failed to get it overturned in the high court and now the party is pursuing costs.'

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Emilesgran · 15/10/2026 10:25

And OF COURSE the reality is that she's being expelled for being "anti trans":
Colour me surprised.

And to make a dying woman sell her house to pay the costs - that's unforgivable.

PaterPower · 15/10/2026 10:33

Can they really not see how bad the optics are for them on this?

The Lib-Dems love to portray themselves as the ‘good guys.’ The tolerant middle-of-the- roaders. But this smacks of a fit up, followed up by petty revenge. Whether it’s because she was GC or not isn’t really that relevant.

They may be ‘due’ their costs, but the smarter and more humane play here would be to waive them and let her and her family enjoy whatever time she has left in peace.

ArabellaScott · 15/10/2026 13:16

I've had a bit of a read of Jo's Crowdjustice updates - can't really link as it's a fundraising page.

The man who had her suspended looks to be Baron Tom Pack.

'Pack stood to be the president of the Liberal Democrats in 2019, with his candidacy supported by MPs Layla Moran[10] and Tom Brake, and MEP Catherine Bearder among others.[11] The only other candidate was MP Christine Jardine. Pack was elected'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Pack,_Baron_Pack

Mark Pack, Baron Pack - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Pack,_Baron_Pack

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MrPrettyDamnCosmic · 15/10/2026 15:15

Final paragraph of the judgment.

182. Finally, I should record that in the course of this case, the court has been taken extensively through the inner workings of a private political association, and the often painstakingly detailed work done by its members and officers. The individuals involved are almost all volunteers, giving up considerable amounts of time and attention as participants in the national democratic process. That is as true of Ms Hayes as it is of Dr Pack and Ms Simpson, and the other Party members who were participants in the various events which were considered by the Panel and placed in evidence before the court. It is, to say the least, unfortunate that disputes between individuals who apparently share a common set of political ideals should generated such friction and illfeeling, and that they have proved incapable of consensual resolution.

IwantToRetire · 15/10/2026 18:13

Sorry - I am struggling with this. In simple terms:

When were these costs incurred? Was it because initial she took action against the Lib Dems?

And is the eviction because under law if you dont have the cash, but are told be pay costs you can be told to sell your home.

Just to say I am shocked and just seems another example that whichever party it is, they are riven with appalling behaviour, and vendettas.

ArabellaScott · 15/10/2026 18:51

Its a long judgment I've skimmed and much seems to be left out.

My basic understanding:

  1. There was some kind of falling out on social media
  2. A man was expelled from the Libdems for his X posts
  3. This woman questioned it and said that expulsion was premature because of a police investigation
  4. Everything was very heated, especially in one meeting
  5. She was expelled
  6. She appealed her expulsion
  7. Judge ruled that her expulsion was allowed based on legal conditions of contracts of groups. One of three of her points was partly upheld.

Its very hard to understand exactly what went on because the judge seems to have omitted what the original argument was relating to.

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ArabellaScott · 15/10/2026 18:52

is the eviction because under law if you dont have the cash, but are told be pay costs you can be told to sell your home.

Yes. The Libdems spent half a million on legal fees and are now claiming them back from Jo. She doenst have the money so they are pursuing her assets.

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IwantToRetire · 15/10/2026 19:11

ArabellaScott · 15/10/2026 18:52

is the eviction because under law if you dont have the cash, but are told be pay costs you can be told to sell your home.

Yes. The Libdems spent half a million on legal fees and are now claiming them back from Jo. She doenst have the money so they are pursuing her assets.

Many thanks. It sort of makes sense now.

But you would think money raised by Party members and supporters should have some sort rules about how it can be spent.

Maybe there needs to be a flying squad of arbitrators for political Party disputes.

But then (and this isn't to criticise the woman concerned) I suppose if you do go to court there is always the chance you will lose and have to pay costs.

IwantToRetire · 15/10/2026 19:15

From AI:

Jo Hayes is receiving support from certain factions and members within the Liberal Democrats, primarily from groups aligned with gender-critical viewpoints, though the party's official leadership remains locked in a severe legal battle against her. 1, 2]

Internal Factions and Backing

  • Liberal Voice for Women: This Lib Dem group has publicly backed Hayes. In October 2026, they noted that "a lot of people in the party are upset at what has happened to Jo Hayes," particularly regarding the party's efforts to evict her from her home while she battles incurable cancer. 1, 2, 3]
  • Policy and Ideological Alignments: While the official reason given for her 2022 expulsion was the bullying of a staff member, her internal supporters have strongly linked her removal to her questioning of the party's equality policies regarding trans rights. Specifically, supporters point to her challenging the process behind the party's 2020 "Definition of Transphobia" while she served on the Federal Board. 1, 2]
  • Financial and Crowdfunding Support: Over her multi-year dispute, she has used crowdfunding campaigns via platforms like CrowdJustice to finance her High Court challenges, which drew donations from members wanting to challenge the party's internal complaints system and culture
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IwantToRetire · 15/10/2026 19:11

Many thanks. It sort of makes sense now.

But you would think money raised by Party members and supporters should have some sort rules about how it can be spent.

Maybe there needs to be a flying squad of arbitrators for political Party disputes.

But then (and this isn't to criticise the woman concerned) I suppose if you do go to court there is always the chance you will lose and have to pay costs.

It makes you wonder who was giving her legal advice. You'd hope the potential risks were spelt out to her.

IwantToRetire · 16/10/2026 17:35

WittyLimeBiscuit · 16/10/2026 16:10

It makes you wonder who was giving her legal advice. You'd hope the potential risks were spelt out to her.

She's a Barrister!

ArabellaScott · 16/10/2026 19:39

Oh, right! I didn't see that.

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alcovecupboards · Yesterday 16:04

She owes the money and needs to pay up. If she won't then the party has every right to force the sale of her home in order to recoup the costs it is owed. She is not the victim here - but she is desperately trying to play one.

ArabellaScott · Yesterday 16:43

Your compassion is astonishing.

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