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Cambridge college labels lavatories as ‘cubicles’ and ‘cubicles/urinals’

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IwantToRetire · 22/09/2026 21:10

A Cambridge college has been accused of ignoring new guidance on single-sex spaces by giving lavatories the gender-neutral labels of “cubicles” and “cubicles/urinals”.

The signage at King’s College follows a recommendation by a campus LGBT+ group.

It has led to accusations that the college is ignoring new guidance from the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) which states that organisations must provide access to single-sex spaces on the basis of biological sex rather than gender identity.

The new guidance follows a Supreme Court ruling last year that transgender women are not legally women under equalities law.
A college alumna said the signs near the main college bar were putting women off using the lavatories and they were queuing to use disabled facilities instead.

The woman, who wants to remain anonymous, accused the college of “caving in to activists” and providing a “hostile environment for people who believe in biological sex”.

Article continues at https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/09/22/cambridge-kings-college-gender-neutral-toilets/

And at https://archive.is/31pbu

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JellySaurus · 22/09/2026 21:37

The SC clarified that services provided for a specific sex are reserved for that sex. Places labelling toilets as "cubicles" and "Cubicles/urinals" are clearly trying to avoid defining the service as single sex.

However, the SC also stated that only providing mixed-sex services could be discrimination against people unable to access a mixed-sex service.

It will clearly take another court case to get organisations to follow the law - not to mention treat women with dignity and safeguarding.

Octavia64 · 22/09/2026 21:39

I didn’t even have to open the thread to know it would be kings.

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 22/09/2026 22:22

Haha, never have the two little words "mens" and "ladies" been <so> scary to people.

moto748e · 22/09/2026 22:33

You see this in pubs, too, though, don't you? Not that that makes it OK. Probably lots of places. And they are all breaking the law?

iwishitwouldstartraining · 22/09/2026 22:55

moto748e · 22/09/2026 22:33

You see this in pubs, too, though, don't you? Not that that makes it OK. Probably lots of places. And they are all breaking the law?

A service provider may be breaking the law if they treat women less advantageously than men. That could be the case here because women are unlikely to want to use provision that contains urinals, whereas men can use either option.

Employers MUST provide unisex or single sex toilets as defined in the H&S regs, so the college is breaking the law if these toilets are for staff.

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 22/09/2026 23:09

iwishitwouldstartraining · 22/09/2026 22:55

A service provider may be breaking the law if they treat women less advantageously than men. That could be the case here because women are unlikely to want to use provision that contains urinals, whereas men can use either option.

Employers MUST provide unisex or single sex toilets as defined in the H&S regs, so the college is breaking the law if these toilets are for staff.

Of course, the men get to be able to use 100% of the facilities, women 50%.
Because anyone thinking men won't barge into both spaces is giving men way too much latitude.
No label on the doors = free for all.
Yet again the loudest voices are dictating policy.
Imagine a dean saying to the unhappy masses, if you don't like us complying with the law regarding female spaces, you're welcome to leave this university and find your unisex spaces elsewhere.

AnnaMagnani · 23/09/2026 08:07

Of course it's at the People's Republic of King's.

prejudiceandpride · 23/09/2026 08:09

if you have visual problems and there's no clear man/woman sign, how will that work?

Octavia64 · 23/09/2026 08:11

I’ve been to kings many times.

they aren’t staff toilets.

and they are a bugger to find anyway so anyone visually impaired will have to do what everyone else does which is ask.

FeralWoman · 23/09/2026 08:14

What about if you’re not able to read and understand English enough to work out what the signs mean?

What if women start using she-wees to use the urinals? Maybe the men will object to women being in there.

MarieDeGournay · 23/09/2026 08:39

Able-bodied people 'queuing up' to use the accessible toilets? What about the disabled people for whom it's not a preference, they actually need them the adaptations that make them accessible?

The configuration men's/women's/accessible works adequately when everybody respects who the spaces are designated for.

When men stop respecting women's spaces, or refuse to use the spaces designated for men, there's a knock-on detrimental effect for people who need accessible toilets, whether it's able-bodied trans-IDing men using them because they 'prefer' them to the men's, or as in this case women who no longer have women-only facilities.

backformoreofthesame · 23/09/2026 09:09

Well clearly everyone should use the urinals plus cubicles if you want anything to change

BadSkiingMum · 23/09/2026 09:25

I had to give a wry smile when a toilet facility at an educational organisation went through various identity crises. In order:

Ladies toilet
Gender neutral toilet with a wierd half woman/man figure sign
Gender neutral toilet with a sticker saying ‘ladies toilet’ slapped over the above sign.
Ladies toilet

The toilets have had more identity changes than the students!

But why oh why…

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 23/09/2026 12:47

BadSkiingMum · 23/09/2026 09:25

I had to give a wry smile when a toilet facility at an educational organisation went through various identity crises. In order:

Ladies toilet
Gender neutral toilet with a wierd half woman/man figure sign
Gender neutral toilet with a sticker saying ‘ladies toilet’ slapped over the above sign.
Ladies toilet

The toilets have had more identity changes than the students!

But why oh why…

It's like you're busting to go, then you get distracted by so many labels, and the need disappears, lol.

Shortshriftandlethal · 23/09/2026 12:51

backformoreofthesame · 23/09/2026 09:09

Well clearly everyone should use the urinals plus cubicles if you want anything to change

I don't thnk any women would be at all comfortable using a facility with urinals in it ( and therefore men in it); and they shoud not have to. The college needs to comply with the law and show some respect for the dignity of its female students and staff.

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 23/09/2026 13:02

Shortshriftandlethal · 23/09/2026 12:51

I don't thnk any women would be at all comfortable using a facility with urinals in it ( and therefore men in it); and they shoud not have to. The college needs to comply with the law and show some respect for the dignity of its female students and staff.

Edited

Try teaching their idiot students some critical thinking skills as well.
Face down the mob.

murasaki · 23/09/2026 16:16

Kings was always the mad Liberal college even back in the 90s when I was a student at C. So I too was not surprised to see my guess prior to clicking on the link was correct.

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