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Invisible Cats

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RogueFemale · 21/09/2026 20:30

Yes, odd thread title, but bear with me.

Today I was discussing with ChatGPT the effects of a joint supplement I’ve been giving to my ageing cat - LLM because no human could possibly endure my insanely detailed chats about my cat.

I was saying I hadn’t seen any sign so far, that the supplement was working. The product says results within six weeks or money back (it’s only four weeks so far).

ChatGPT then told me that the product’s claim is based largely on research on dogs, not cats. The primary product is for dogs. They launched the dog product in 2009, then the cat version in 2012.

And I thought huh? and this is like Invisible Women by Caroline Criado Perez. But for cats. I’ve also seen a few articles in recent years about how scientific research on cats and cat behaviour is way behind that devoted to dogs.

Yes, cats are harder to study because they are less cooperative than dogs, and don’t like to leave their home territory. But it struck me as an interesting coincidence that the animal more closely associated with women, and sometimes as a misogynistic trope - crazy cat lady - is also the one that has historically received less scientific attention and study.

Another parallel. Cats are notoriously good at disguising pain, and so feline pain has historically been under-recognised and/or dismissed. Compare the history of women’s pain being dismissed, reported symptoms ignored, etc.

Coincidence or not?

[Sorry if this is a bit weird cat lady].

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RogueFemale · 22/09/2026 19:35

elgreco · 22/09/2026 19:29

In fairness dogs were valuable to farmers, more so than cats. Also for gaurding and hunting. They also take time to train....

Vermin control is extremely important to farmers. But cats are expendable.

Also - 99% of dogs are unemployed these days.

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Whomitmayconcern · 23/09/2026 10:07

Cats have a self determined relationship with humans ie it’s evolved through a mutually beneficial relationship but dogs were domesticated by breeding to meet purpose for human needs. I suspect whereas all cats are effective at vermin control which is their main role, dogs being bred for specific purposes makes them more valuable because they’re less easy to replace and so there’s more care to maintaining them and keeping them healthy than there is for cats.

CassOle · 23/09/2026 22:49

'The value of a cat, fourpence. The value of a kitten from the night it is born until it opens its eyes, a legal penny; and from then until it kills mice, two legal pence; and after it kills mice, four legal pence, and at that it remains forever. Her properties are to see and hear and kill mice, and that her claws are not broken, and to rear kittens; and if she is bought, and any of those are wanting, a third of her value is to be returned.

The value of a cat which guards a king's barn, if killed or stolen: her head is set down upon a clean level floor, and her tailis raised up, and wheat grains are poured over her until they hide the end of her tail. That will be her value; if the grain is not obtained, a milking ewe with her lamb and her wool.'

https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1985829

https://www.wales.ac.uk/cawcs/research/medieval-welsh-law

RogueFemale · 23/09/2026 22:58

CassOle · 23/09/2026 22:49

'The value of a cat, fourpence. The value of a kitten from the night it is born until it opens its eyes, a legal penny; and from then until it kills mice, two legal pence; and after it kills mice, four legal pence, and at that it remains forever. Her properties are to see and hear and kill mice, and that her claws are not broken, and to rear kittens; and if she is bought, and any of those are wanting, a third of her value is to be returned.

The value of a cat which guards a king's barn, if killed or stolen: her head is set down upon a clean level floor, and her tailis raised up, and wheat grains are poured over her until they hide the end of her tail. That will be her value; if the grain is not obtained, a milking ewe with her lamb and her wool.'

https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1985829

https://www.wales.ac.uk/cawcs/research/medieval-welsh-law

Very interesting, and also notable that only female pronouns are used.

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Cattywillow · 23/09/2026 23:27

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 21/09/2026 22:43

Weirdly you've just reminded me that a very long time ago, when I was quite young, like adolescent age, I persistently called all cats she and all dogs he.
So I'm totally on board with this theory of yours! 😂

Your disrespect for their pronouns is outrageous.

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