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Lib Dem conference big vote on supporting women's rights tomorrow

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fromorbit · 20/09/2026 22:27

Vote tomorrow at the conference with major implications

Lib Dem conference ‘descends into culture wars’ with trans vote
Party wrong to debate pro-trans proposals that will ‘be weaponised against us’, say campaigners

Published 20 September 2026 6:45pm BST
The Liberal Democrats have been accused of “taking a sledgehammer to women’s rights” by debating proposals for more “inclusive” rules on single-sex spaces.
The party will vote on Monday on a proposal to scrap new guidance banning transgender women, who are born male, from female toilets and changing rooms at its annual conference.
The plans are set out in an emergency motion selected by Lib Dem members, which will also force the party to take a firm stance on whether “trans women are women”.
Liberal Voice for Women, a Lib Dem group campaigning for sex-based rights, warned the policy would be pushed through by a conference “stacked with activists” and force the party “back into the culture wars”.
The backlash threatens to embroil the Lib Dem conference in a transgender row for a second year running, despite Sir Ed Davey insisting on Saturday that he led “the most united party in British politics”.
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iwishitwouldstartraining · 21/09/2026 18:35

ArabellaScott · 21/09/2026 17:26

Brain anatomy.

'Neural systems align with gender identity rather than birth assigned sex'
'trans adolescent brain pattern activitity'
'cortical thickness ... brain structure aligns with gender identity'
'when scientific evidence shows ...'

sorry, my brain's melted.

I can't keep up. This is a bald man with earrings arguing he feels like a woman so should be allowed into the loos.

He seems to be suggesting that there might be a way to test for all this...?

Will the libdems be abandoning their support of self ID?

highame · 21/09/2026 18:33

NeartoNewquay · 21/09/2026 18:17

@highame - I am one of those voters and Ben Maguire as mentioned earlier is my MP ffs. I even wrote to him prior to voting and he didn't reply. I really had to force myself to vote at all but felt it was my duty. If I had to vote again tomorrow I think I would have to abstain 😡

Poor you. I spoil my ballot, then at least i make it to the vote. I was looking at their declining membership and the lower it gets, the more likely the nutters are all that's left

ArabellaScott · 21/09/2026 18:26

I dont think the Libdems have yet recovered from their brief taste of power.

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 18:23

zanahoria · 21/09/2026 17:51

They would drop this like a hot stone if it meant a bit of power

I’m worried it’ll be a differentiator for a left coalition.

MarieDeGournay · 21/09/2026 18:22

ArabellaScott · 21/09/2026 17:22

'Are we serious about govt? Are we going back to prepare for govt or going back to our bedrooms to prepare for irrelevance'

some whoops and applause

Nice nod to LibDem history there - David Steele in 1981 told the delegates to
'Go back to your constituencies and prepare for government!'.

Many years later I saw an interview where he was reminded of that, and the interviewer rather cruelly asked 'Have you told them they can stop yet?'😁

So they voted to go back to their bedrooms and prepare for irrelevance...

ArabellaScott · 21/09/2026 18:19

zanahoria · 21/09/2026 18:15

Will Sir Ed be using his new slogan ?

x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/2101378067570553201?

<sigh>

NeartoNewquay · 21/09/2026 18:17

@highame - I am one of those voters and Ben Maguire as mentioned earlier is my MP ffs. I even wrote to him prior to voting and he didn't reply. I really had to force myself to vote at all but felt it was my duty. If I had to vote again tomorrow I think I would have to abstain 😡

zanahoria · 21/09/2026 18:15

Will Sir Ed be using his new slogan ?

x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/2101378067570553201?

Iamnotalemming · 21/09/2026 18:09

Utterly depressing.

highame · 21/09/2026 18:07

There'll be an awful lot of voters who are going to seriously regret their choice at the last election. I hope it's going to keep me amused for some time

zanahoria · 21/09/2026 18:01

MelOfTheRoses · 21/09/2026 17:56

Quite possible.

Look what happened to their policy on student loans, the moment they had any influence. 🤔

But they could equally go the other way.

If they go down this route then it means they are less likely to hold even the balance of power. They will lose votes to both Labour and Tories

MelOfTheRoses · 21/09/2026 17:56

zanahoria · 21/09/2026 17:51

They would drop this like a hot stone if it meant a bit of power

Quite possible.

Look what happened to their policy on student loans, the moment they had any influence. 🤔

But they could equally go the other way.

MyPearlViper · 21/09/2026 17:55

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MelOfTheRoses · 21/09/2026 17:54

I was wondering how it went 🤦‍♀️

Well done Zoe, but I think you are probably too good for them. 💕🤷‍♀️

zanahoria · 21/09/2026 17:51

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 17:47

This is really sad. They could easily be in a coalition after next GE. All that work by women could be threatened by these numpties.

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They would drop this like a hot stone if it meant a bit of power

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 17:47

This is really sad. They could easily be in a coalition after next GE. All that work by women could be threatened by these numpties.

Additup · 21/09/2026 17:46

DensityOfAWatermelon · 21/09/2026 17:42

My LibDem MP actually believes it. I told him he'd lost my vote - after having had it for 23 years personally responsible for his transition from ward councillor to MP, me and he was 'all oh well nevermind, but I can't have women with short hair challenged about using women's toilets'

What an absolutely idiotic thing for him to say.

highame · 21/09/2026 17:42

I look forward to the interviews. Unbelievable

DensityOfAWatermelon · 21/09/2026 17:42

zanahoria · 21/09/2026 16:56

Or maybe they actually believe this bollocks

My LibDem MP actually believes it. I told him he'd lost my vote - after having had it for 23 years personally responsible for his transition from ward councillor to MP, me and he was 'all oh well nevermind, but I can't have women with short hair challenged about using women's toilets'

ArabellaScott · 21/09/2026 17:40

zanahoria · 21/09/2026 17:29

Brave to voice those two choices, we all know it will be the latter

Yep.

At this point, I think the handful of sane Libdems remaining would be better forming a new party. This one is done. And I know that there are sane ones out there; when you talk to Libdems in private, the narrative is very different than the farce that was just presented.

PrancingPanda · 21/09/2026 17:40

Crazy, absolutely mad, with a completely captured crowd.
Jennie something was really really angry
Surely not the best candidate to 'summate' or whatever the term is.
Thought she was going to blow a fuse

ChrisTheBastard · 21/09/2026 17:39

I 'm assuming that most of you know the work of Dr Zoe Hollowood, but if you don't, you might like the cut of her jib

Ah, I see from the OP's update that she (ie: ZH) is heavily involved.

Splendid.

highame · 21/09/2026 17:39

The end of the lib dems?

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 21/09/2026 17:38

Thanks for the commentary thus far anyway.

Helleofabore · 21/09/2026 17:38

Ffs