In light of the whole arts world supporting Macklemore over his censorship, who in the music industry supported Róisín Murphy?

Ok. Well I’ll leave you all to your conspiracy theories and hate at this stage. Hope they make you happy.

who has mentioned UK party politics anywhere apart from
you?

You've just proved you're an Omnicause adherent. Because you've detected what you consider to be transphobia in me, and you gauge my mentioning of two tier as racist, and you've totally misunderstood who uses Omnicause (pretty much everyone), you've gone and accused me on the whole damn shooting match.
Indeed, you are Omnicause to your little toes...accusing me of being guilty of one or two sins, thus guilty of the lot.
Thanks so much for demonstrating the Omnicause in action.
You're only the "good cop" in good cop bad cop because you're so endearingly naive in your proclamations.
I mean, you've literally only heard of the Omnicause today, and yet on the same day, you've decided it's a "far right" concept, and thus I'm "far right".
Amazing, I must check my privilege, especially after I voted Green at the GE, and will again if the same candidate is put fwds by them.

Now I do know, let me be clearer: your views are transphobic, racist, and anti immigration

I have lost track here - Is any political party (even the Greens?) promoting uncontrolled immigration? Are they therefore all racist?

Oh sorry, I didn’t mean to be a softer voice! I didn’t know what you meant by omnicause as I’m not in the kind of far right circles where it’s used.

Now I do know, let me be clearer: your views are transphobic, racist, and anti immigration; you are a climate change denier and a conspiracy theorist. You are actively making the world more dangerous for women and children.

Hope that helps!

I think by ‘widely used’ you might mean ‘widely used by the far right’.

Honestly I did think that most of the gender critical feminists on mumsnet spend quite a bit of their time making the case that gender critical views don’t need to be aligned with the far right, and I am genuinely surprised to see people on this thread reveling in racism, anti-immigration rhetoric, climate change denial etc.

Oh sorry, I didn’t mean to be a softer voice! I didn’t know what you meant by omnicause as I’m not in the kind of far right circles where it’s used.

Now I do know, let me be clearer: your views are transphobic, racist, and anti immigration; you are a climate change denier and a conspiracy theorist. You are actively making the world more dangerous for women and children.

Hope that helps!

I'm seeing a pattern on so many threads. One TRA will come in and berate eg Róisín as a raging transphobe, gets everything coming to her, noone in the arts world wants to work with them.
Boilerplate identical criticism of Rosie Kay etc.
And certainly no fans want anything to do with them.
Their "cancelling" is pure market forces...say shit...get shit outcomes.
Yet our boy Mackelmore, now his cancelling is billionaire crushing of pro Palestine voices (Robert Kraft, with cowardly Ed Sheeran in tow), Zionist plot etc etc.
Now the Zionist capitalist billionaire system is crushing the innocent. Not market forces, Mackelmore against the system. Unfair censorship, not fake narrative of Róisín.
And then a babe in the wood Olive comes along, a softer version of the same moralism, that Róisín only has herself to blame, but Macklemore is a victim.
Then a side order of conspiracy theories to try and discredit the view common on MN.
It's like a "bad cop, good cop" double act.
My point remains, the Omnicause (sorry Olive) would never be happier than if the likes of Róisín, Rosie, JKR etc were never heard of again.
The sane middle, I give not a shit if Macklemore has a long and successful career peddling the Omnicause in his music, but if Róisín is going to be cancelled for her so-called transgressions, then why not Macklemore?
The fact the whole arts community will huddle around him, but were happy to let Róisín, and Rosie, rot, is the big takeaway for me.

And do you think it also works the other way round? I.e. Are you aligning gender critical feminism with anti immigration and ‘climate change’ isn’t real viewpoints??

because I didn’t think you’d persuade me to stand up for gender critical views, but there are many regular gender critical posters on here who would be horrified by that, and spend a great deal of time explaining why they don’t believe their views are aligned with the far right etc 😮

I hope Olive doesn't read this, there aren't enough smelling salts in the world to bring them around.

Nobody told me we have "doyennes". Do we, is there a list?

This thread is terrifying. I hope some of the more thoughtful Big Names of gender critical mumsnet make it over here and take a good look at the type of racists and conspiracy theorists they’re throwing their lot in with.

Hadley, as may be expected, is funnier.

Gender, environment, Gaza: they’re all the same, even though LGBT people live under the threat of death in Palestine, and I haven’t heard too much from Hamas about the environment. According to The Omnicause, they’re all magically connected. It’s the fatberg of causes, and the fat gluing them all together is Western narcissism.

...But history doesn’t work in single, simple ways, alas. It would be so much easier if it did, but it doesn’t, and part of growing up is learning this fairly basic truth. You can resist it if you like, and reside in a state of arrested development, clinging with your fingernails to the fatberg Omnicause, but don’t kid yourself that you’re doing any good. All you are, really, is a crank and a conspiracy theorist.

https://www.thejc.com/opinion/welcome-to-the-omnicause-the-fatberg-of-activism-rw849dht