The false equivalency drives me mad...

I would have asked colleague to stop minimising pedophilia. I'm concerned at the poster attempting the same on this thread.

The dead/alive babysitter joke did amuse me though, I'm afraid

No one is above criticism, in my opinion JKR’s books could do with more editing…however to compare her to perverts and criminals is appalling.

That's QUEER THEORY for you!

You know you’ve made yourself look like an idiot with poor reasoning skills don't you?

Di you ask him why he thinks JK Rowling is a monster?

They share the same first initial?

The dishonesty and bad faith posting from the TRAs on this thread is outrageous.

Can you all cut the crap and explain what it is that she has done that makes it in any way reasonable to mention her in the same breath as Saville?

Doesn't 'mutatis mutandis' anything to you? aka 'oh don't be so silly' !

Let's put it another way: if it was JKR who lived around the corner from me instead of the prolific child abuser who did live around the corner from me, timescales adjusted, I would have walked by that house in total safety.

Even if she did one or two things that are considered 'shady' by some posters, I and the other neighbourhood children would have been safe because it was JRK and not a paedophile monster who lived there.

If people can't see the difference, and put JKR in the same category as child abusers, even in the same sentence as them, they are beyond reasoning with.

Again, another attempt to deliberately misunderstand to ridicule a decent point.

You know what that poster meant. It’s a good point, right?

Yeah, cos that's exactly what that poster meant 🙄

I would be very concerned if anyone didn't choose an alive baby sitter over a rotting corpse/urn of ashes, irrespective of how the parents view Her politics!

What a bizarre distinction to make, between convicted and non-convicted sex offenders - do you think it makes any difference to the children they abused?

Mentioning JKR and the likes of Savile in the same conversation is disproportionate, irrational and nonsensical.

Let's switch the focus from the perpetrators to the victims of
Savile, Gary Glitter, the prolific sex abuser of children who lived around the corner from me, and all the other paedophile monsters, famous or not, convicted in a court of law or not.
Let's notionally 'line up' their victims, the thousands and thousands of abused and damaged children.
Then line up all the similarly abused and damaged victims of JKR's alleged offences.

Anything, alcovecupboards?

Well, coming out swinging for Jimmy Saville's honour is a bold take I never thought I'd see on FWR but here we are 👀

I don't like to label humans as monsters, even the worst ones. I think it gives them a special, iconic identity when in reality paedos, abusers, murderers and rapisits are nothing more than shameful, broken humans who hurt others for their pleasure and who deserve society's derision and harsh punishment.

I guess you could argue the stupid colleague was right in a way - JKR has indeed become a fictional bogeyman for TRAs. It's all nonsense.

There are very few people I would consider "monsters". Only those who deliberately set out to cause harm, especially to the innocent, or don't care what harm they cause, and don't show any remorse for it.

Savile would be one.

Trying to see things from the other point of view, I think Owen Jones says some very stupid things on twitter and I disagree with him on many things, but I don't think he is a monster. On the other hand I suppose he is very easy to ignore.

There was an interview with some of the staff at Beira’s place in which they said that they received a lot of threatening and abusive calls and so recorded all incoming calls. I assume that it is this that Alcove has distorted to JKR records vulnerable women without their consent. So clearly professional women taking steps to defend themselves and their vulnerable clients is EXACTLY THE SAME as men raping children.

FFS.

“Only a misogynist would say they think JKR is a monster.”

It is incredibly disingenuous, I would be willing to bet large amounts of money that if your friend was given the choice of having Rolf Harris or JK Rowling babysit his child he would instantly say Rowling so he would absolutely know that there is no equivalence between the 2. It’s deliberate exaggeration to try to make a point like when TRAs claim that people who think it’s heinous to even consider locking convicted male sex offenders up with women are Nazi’s. They have no valid point to make so move straight into shock and reaction.

Meanwhile. Absolute tumbleweed on what JKR is supposed to have done.

I thought that too

What an utterly gross point to make. 🙄

Jimmy Savile may never have been convicted by a court, but there were reviews, investigations and reports on his offending.

E.g. by the BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/dame_janet_smith.html
and the NHS
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-and-department-of-health-investigations-into-jimmy-savile

"Wasn't actually a convicted paedophile" - cracking argument there.

This is the worst kind of hair splitting. There is not one iota of doubt that Savile was a horrifically prolific sex offender. The fact that he was very unfortunately never brought to justice in his lifetime is irrelevant in this context.

What are these ‘shady things’ @alcovecupboards?

if you dance with clowns you'll end up with sore toes

Sorry for double post!