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Trans candidate Emily Brothers excluded from women’s section of Labour’s National Policy Forum

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WallaceinAnderland · 11/09/2026 17:14

As the title says.

"The act of ‘coming out’ has been at some personal cost, not least now that Labour has drawn on that information to penalise me in standing for the NPF and banning me as a delegate to women’s conference. The party wouldn’t have been able to discriminate against me without trawling through the media to identify articles in LabourList, Pink News and various other publications."

https://labourlist.org/2026/09/trans-candidate-excluded-womens-section-npf/

Trans candidate Emily Brothers excluded from women’s section of Labour’s National Policy Forum – LabourList

A candidate for the National Policy Forum has been excluded from the women's section of the forum because they are trans. Emily Brothers, Labour's first openly trans…

https://labourlist.org/2026/09/trans-candidate-excluded-womens-section-npf/

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DramaAndBullshit · 16/09/2026 20:03

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 14/09/2026 19:24

There's no 'roundabout way', just the sqirrely, crooked way the 'trans' twist everything. He hasn't been excluded, he's not eligible to attend because he's a man.

Yes, not eligible.

WallaceinAnderland · 14/09/2026 19:45

If I had to put out a press statement it would say 'No eligible candidates have been excluded'.

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 14/09/2026 19:24

DramaAndBullshit · 14/09/2026 18:43

It’s not just mature ‘onset’ TiMs that don’t pass, if you see pictures of teen TiMs like Hunter Schaefer without soft lighting and make up his face is still fairly masculine.

In a roundabout way Emily has been excluded from the women’s conference because he’s trans, because trans women are men, and men don’t belong in the women’s conference. It’s not rocket science.

There's no 'roundabout way', just the sqirrely, crooked way the 'trans' twist everything. He hasn't been excluded, he's not eligible to attend because he's a man.

DramaAndBullshit · 14/09/2026 18:43

NowSober · 11/09/2026 17:50

How do you think Emily should know if she passes or not?

As Emily is blind he would have to rely on the opinion of others although candidly no maturity onset trans identifying male ever passes.

It’s not just mature ‘onset’ TiMs that don’t pass, if you see pictures of teen TiMs like Hunter Schaefer without soft lighting and make up his face is still fairly masculine.

In a roundabout way Emily has been excluded from the women’s conference because he’s trans, because trans women are men, and men don’t belong in the women’s conference. It’s not rocket science.

ThisFunSheep · 14/09/2026 18:22

Does anyone know how the process to stand as a women's candidate works?

I.e. did he lie and declare himself to be a biological woman / assigned woman at birth / whatever they call it?

If so he should be in disciplinary processes for making fraudulent representations.

If not, they need to introduce such a formal declaration.

Wishesandhorses · 14/09/2026 17:16

Thank you for the link. Crack on with the boycotting; the women's conference won't miss them. Frankly it's likely to be a much better place for women without them.

Fgs just provide a proportionate to population number of T seats. Job done. Irrelevant what sex anyone is, representation provided.

I know, I know, it's the buzz kill of 'there's an actual separate kind of woman a man can't insist he is'. Frankly though any man who sees seats for women's representation and their issue is 'that's for me to express my whatever on', has proven a) why women need separate protected seats to stop misogynistic men trampling them in their own interests due to binary sexed hierarchy, man has proved the binary himself, and b) why men like this should absolutely not be allowed anywhere near situations that are for and about women, because he sees them merely as a really exciting personal resource for him to use, with zero interest in them or what they're doing or why.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 14/09/2026 16:59

Thanks for the link

"Richards’ quixotic attempt to overturn the Supreme Court’s ruling demonstrates the increasing divorce from reality among Labour trans activists, and from their own party’s policies."

I'm tempted to ask were they ever even reality adjacent? 😂

I certainly hope so, because there's an awful lot of handmaidens in the Labour Party that are still trying to keep the faith with this mens rights movement.

PrancingPanda · 14/09/2026 16:40

Terf Times is a darned good read!!

Thechickenhasmypillow · 14/09/2026 14:02

Blind people still have ears and I doubt very much he passes vocally.

Igmum · 14/09/2026 12:59

He certainly did Helle, but then decided to take on the whole EHRC instead because they were being So Mean and saying that actual women had rights which was Clearly Wrong. His court case and £26k of crowdfunding are now pending.

Helleofabore · 13/09/2026 08:39

Wasn’t Richards taking a legal route to overturn Labour women’s policy? Wasn’t that why he stepped back from Translucent?

fromorbit · 13/09/2026 08:35

key part of the article is that Labour is sticking to following the law. Mr Brothers can throw as many fits as he likes.

Mainstream claims that the organisation had tried to raise the issue with Labour privately and sought a meeting with relevant decision-makers “to no avail”.
A Labour Party spokesperson said: “Labour is committed to advancing women in politics, including through reserved women’s places on the National Policy Forum. There are also non-reserved NPF places, providing opportunities for all eligible members to contribute.”

The first Labour Women's conference which is actually for women in years is being held on September 26, 2026.

People will remember that various unions are boycotting the conference because it is keeping men out. This may not not be a good move as the peaky women who think they exist will be there.

Labour Women's Declaration are delighted to be hosting a fringe event and stall at National Women’s Conference in Liverpool on Saturday 26th September 2026.
Our fringe event will be held in association with our sister group Lesbian Labour – Invisible Women: Lesbians and Destransitioners
Join us to hear how lesbian rights clinched the FWS Supreme Court ruling, why “Gay Teens Aren’t Sick”, and the evidence from detransitioners which drives our campaigns against the Conversion Practices Ban Bill and the puberty blocker trial.
https://labourwomensdeclaration.org.uk/labour-party-womens-conference-2026/

Also at Labour Party Conference
We will be holding our seventh consecutive National Conference fringe meeting – Materialist Feminism and the Left: Is identity Politics Over?
https://labourwomensdeclaration.org.uk/labour-party-conference-2026/

Labour Women's Declaration. Holding Labour to account on women's sex-based rights.

Labour Party Conference 2026 - Labour Women's Declaration

LWD are excited to be back at Labour Party National Conference 2026. We’re hosting a fringe event and a stall  – if you’re attending, do come along and say hello! We will be holding our seventh consecutive National Conference fringe meeting - Materiali...

https://labourwomensdeclaration.org.uk/labour-party-conference-2026/

Helleofabore · 13/09/2026 04:45

So another man is saying the quiet part out loud about the fact that they cannot respect female single sex provisions ? Great! Keep it going!

Especially male political candidates. It is to the country’s benefit to have male political candidates declare that that they cannot respect female people’s needs, boundaries or our consent.

It really is good to note which men would also knowingly disregard female single sex provisions if they think they can get away with it. There is a name for the behaviour of male people who think it is ok to ignore female people’s ‘no’ if they can get away with it.

AlonsoMosley · 12/09/2026 19:49

The photo editors of the media that "covers" this issue need to step bloody up.

They never run a fair picture. In this, no picture at all.

Tell me you are complicit without telling me you are complicit...

Wishesandhorses · 12/09/2026 17:32

But it was HARD for him to come out.

So he trumps all women.

Or something.

The issue clearly is having to face that whatever he does he remains a trans identified man and not an actual woman. Which might be very sad for him on an individual basis, but is reality, and women continue to have needs of their own.

CompleteGinasaur · 12/09/2026 17:25

Isn't it only a couple of weeks until the Party Conference? Perfect timing for an explosion of nicely confected shrieking outrage. I'm sure the usual suspects will be working overtime to keep the pot boiling until then.

viques · 12/09/2026 17:09

DancingNotDrowning · 11/09/2026 17:57

Emily has been excluded because Emily is a man. Not because he is trans.

this is a pretty tragic case. Emily is blind so must have little idea of how they look. They are very obviously male. It’s sad that no one had been honest with him about that

Presumably since Emily bothered to go all the way to Thailand for sex reassignment surgery Emily was always well aware that they were living in a male body. And it’s not just cock and balls, it’s other distinctly masculine physical attributes that are clear enough to anyone, blind or sighted, that distinguish a man from a woman, which as a biological man previously married to a biological woman Emily is no doubt familiar with.

viques · 12/09/2026 16:56

I don’t care what Emily looks like, I don’t care if Emily passes as a woman, I don’t even care if Emily has a beard that touches their shoulders. Emily is a man. And that is all that needs to be said about it. Emily is not a woman and should, in the interests of equality and fairness graciously step aside and try their luck at being adopted as a male candidate , or just as a candidate . If Emily is any good and has a proven track record then Emily will be fine, but please don’t take oxygen from an equally able candidate who is actually a woman.

If any member of the Labour Party needs reminding of the very poor way they have supported actual women they should trawl back into their own history, they don’t have to go back far, and remind themselves of the amazing and capable women who have been passed over for cabinet or shadow cabinet office, of the way the oh so inclusive Labour Party has treated talented and extraordinary women who have never been seriously considered for leadership. Castle, Mowlem, Boothroyd, Abbott, Becket,Jowell,Jackson, Ruddock and many others banged their heads on the Labour glass ceiling when it came to being considered for high office both within the party in opposition and government.

It is an affront to these women who have faced sexism and discrimination by their own party that people like Emily have the nerve to even put themselves forward for consideration.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/09/2026 15:12

Anyone remember that other Labour TRA about the same time? Was quite influential. Heather Peto? Definitely something Peto

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/09/2026 15:11

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 12/09/2026 09:52

yep, that disastrous crowd funder (I've forgotten the name of the woman who set it up, which is probably for the best) was what got me into all this. Cancelled my labour party membership, attended some woman's place meetings and never looked back!

I hung on in Labour until 2019 when they very clearly said they didn’t want women like me as members and weren’t that fussed about us as voters.

SethAndReubenTooSendGaloshes · 12/09/2026 10:43

alcovecupboards · 11/09/2026 17:23

How do you think Emily should know if she passes or not?

Mirror? Eyes? Sense and logic?

Edited after reading Emily is apparently blind. So that just leaves sense and logic.

InconvenientlyMaterial · 12/09/2026 10:41

I find it depressing that homosexual men with trans identities aren't more critical of cases like this. They're usually the victims of deeply sexist and homophobic childhoods and whilst I disagree with the ideology and inherent misogyny, I understand the motivation. But dudes like this aren't exactly attempting to escape the patriarchy; they're upholding and perpetuating it, taking all the benefits. If women really did get to "gatekeep" gender (as if we'd ever be granted the power) surely this would be an instant "no" ?

Wishesandhorses · 12/09/2026 10:07

No mate, you cannot take seats and opportunities from women. They need them, it's not all about you.

And the part about 'they wouldn't have known if they hadn't trawled my social media'..... ffs, if that means what it sounds like, they really are pushing that dishonesty and men with trans identities go hand in hand at all times, so obviously yes no one should or can trust an inch and will have to check. In the massive majority of cases it really isn't going to be hard to know on sight though.

Shedmistress · 12/09/2026 10:05

Memoryhole · 12/09/2026 10:00

Whatever happened to Madigan, I wonder?

Last i heard a young female student accused him of sexual harassment or assault and was accused of being 'transphobic' for daring to mention his horrendous behaviour.