Just cant help feeling it would have saved money and been clearer to say screening services for people based on their sex!

Because it's specialist literature aimed at a population of women who do not want to be women and feel distressed about being referred to as such. I couldn't give a monkeys as long as dehumanising language isn't thrust on all of us.

Strawman, I don't believe in gender identity nor do the vast majority of people here. That doesn't render gender reassignment non-existent or not a protected characteristic.

@TransParentlyAnnoyed - speaking the truth is not hatred.

I do not hate trans people - I hate the ideology that says children should be given irreversibly harmful puberty blockers, hormones and surgeries, and that women and girls cannot have single sex spaces or groups. The ideology that says lesbians should agree to penetrative sex with a penis just because the man it is attached to claims to be a woman.

I hate the ideology that relies on outdated, toxic stereotypes - if you like pink, skirts, make up, long hair you must be a woman, and if you have short hair, love rugby, never wear dresses or skirts or make up, you must be a boy.

We have spent decades ridding ourselves of these stereotypes - of people saying that a ‘true’ woman couldn’t wear skirts, that a ‘true’ woman behaves in a feminine fashion, wears make up, never swears - and now the trans ideologues want to send us hurtling back to the 40s.

XX = female, XY = male - these are facts. Human beings cannot change sex - no hormones, medications or surgeries can give a man a functioning vagina or a female reproductive or hormone system.

AIDS testing was aimed at a recognisable minority, homosexual men, who were a greater risk of AIDS than heterosexual men because of some sexual practices. Their sexual orientation is a matter of historical record and falsifiable. Trans ideology is all in the head and has no basis in reality, is unfalsifiable. It is a delusion and delusion has no place in diagnosis of sex-specifc health problems e.g. cervical cancer. The only fear trans people have is that their 'identity' will be unvalidated by male-specific or female-specific screening - and that's a mental health problem.

People who say they are the opposite sex or no sex at all, are of either male or female sex, just like the rest of the planet.

If they do not know what sex they are, how could they be 'trans'?

It is all such utter bullshit.

I think it would be more effective if the NHS kept the sex of people on their records and recorded the new gender identity if people wanted.
Then people will be invited to screenings relevant to their sex and this should be effective in improving health outcomes overall for trans people.
It would also be easier to target people who have recorded changes to their gender identity on the NHS records and send out specific literature to this group.
If the NHS is looking to improve health outcomes for this section of the population this would be more effective than a leaflet that people have to search for online.

Im sure they are trying to be kind and sensitive to trans people’s feelings but I think it would be better if at the point of someone recording changes to their gender they were made aware they will still receive communication relevant to their sex as this will be a prevention measure against cancer and other diseases.

I understand the conversation has moved on a bit since this point, but the NHS does actually have materials specifically aimed at older people, because they are likely to have specific needs, both because of their older bodies but also slightly different social/psychological needs/worries.

Conversely, conditions that predominantly affect older people (like Parkinson's or Alzheimer's) might need some different literature available for younger sufferers, because someone who is diagnosed with something like dementia at the age of 35 will have different worries - like 'will I have to give up work' or 'how can I parent?' that just won't be relevant to an 80 year old.

Basically, people are different and the NHS tries to support them from where they are. That is true of trans people as well as all the other groups who get that kind of tailored info/support. It's not unusual.

For me, this section stood out.

Trans men who are pregnant should be offered the same antenatal and new born screening tests antenatal and newborn screening tests as all other pregnant individuals.

Aside from the fact that I've never understood why someone so desperate to be male would want to become pregnant, the bit I've highlighted in bold is what really pisses me off. They still can't bring themselves to use the word woman. Who else would all these other individuals be if not women? Is it such a dangerous word that we can't allow it to be used for fear of offending someone?

I agree with this. I'm also GC BTW.
It's like the leaflets on certain vaccines that tell you which ones are made with pork products and why and what the alternatives are, for Muslim patients and parents.
Not applicable to me but might keep someone else, who has radically different beliefs to me, healthy.

You’ll have to point out anything I’ve said that is misogynistic because I’m pretty sure you won’t be able

is yours misogyny?

UltraTerf 😂 is your superpower bigotry?

I’m having an amazing evening Thankyou. And now I’m off to become UltraTerf! And it’s all thanks to you! You’re definitely doing the Lords work here. 😇😇😇😇

It’s always interesting chatting with someone so radicalised logic stops working. Have the evening that you deserve

So no facts to back up your argument. Gotcha. In that case I’ll give your er… points the respect and attention they deserve. None. Mind you last time I was told to educate myself I went from trans ally to full on TERF. If I do more research, I may become… ultra TERF!

I’m not Google. Do your own research on being trans and discrimination.

what healthcare are they denied? Who is violently assaulting transpeople? Why are they getting fired? Without these facts we cannot determine if these things are happening because they are trans or because of other factors. I mean, women have disproportionate rates of violent assaults, workplace firing, housing discrimination and are denied basic healthcare. So are you saying women are part of a group who are marginalised and discriminated against and therefore need protecting? In that case, surely you should be campaigning against those who are trying to remove women’s rights to single sex spaces don’t you think?

Is there any evidence of that actually happening in the UK of rates above the male population? Are trans people really being denied housing on the basis that they’re trans here?

We're talking about disproportionate rates of violent assault, workplace firing, housing discrimination, and being denied basic healthcare. Dismissing all of that as just a disagreement over pronouns is incredibly ignorant

So how are they discriminated against? How are they marginalised? By not being treated in accordance with their identity? By people refusing to accept their delusions? Nah mate. That is not discrimination or marginalisation.

You seen to have some very specific grievances, but none of what you’ve said proves trans people aren’t discriminating against or marginalised. I’m not denying those things have happened, but them happening doesn’t meant trans discrimination doesn’t exist.

No. When people in power believe a man who says he’s a woman before they’ll believe a woman saying he’s not, you cannot argue that transpeople are victimised, discriminated against and treated poorly can you?

When women are threatened with rape, death and violence for saying no to men demanding entry into their single sex spaces and this is endorsed by politicians you cannot argue that transpeople are marginalised.

when rape survivors are told that requesting single sex groups make them bigots and they must “reframe their trauma” around sharing spaces with males, you can’t say transpeople are excluded can you?

Well do you then agree that gender reassignment is a protected characteristic because trans peopl are often victimised, discriminated against and treated poorly for being trans?

Not as nonsensical as believing in “gender identity” but hey ho. There you go. Pregnancy is a protected characteristic because women are often victimised, discriminated against and treated poorly for being pregnant. After she is pregnant, you are right, the pregnancy protected characteristic is no longer relevant. The protected characteristic is there whilst she is pregnant and for up to a year after birth.

This is nonsense. It's like saying pregnancy isn't a protected characteristic because the woman chose to get pregnant and won't be that way after she gives birth.