Roxy Tickle is a man. I stand with Sall Grover.

This is something I'd like to know

I find it hard to believe that there is any sort of consensus or majority of public opinion in Australia that would support the idea that the law (and everybody else) has to recognise you as being of the sex you say you are.

You don't even have to think about it for more than a few seconds to realise it'll lead to a massive car crash of a fuck up.

I think a lot of people, especially women, are still at the “be kind” stage and feeling sorry for a fictional small weak trans identified man being picked on/assaulted by big strong men. They don’t understand that this court decision applies to everything that has anything to do with dividing up based on sex.

Whether it’s the public toilets at the shops, the local women’s footy team, the changing rooms at Kmart and Target, awards for women and girls, the toilets at their children’s school, and more. All of it can have men and boys in women and girls’ spaces and categories.

I have a pelvic ultrasound booked for next week. It will involve an internal ultrasound wand inserted into my vagina. The receptionist mentioned the name of the person I’m booked in with and that “she’s really lovely”. Part of me wanted to ask if she’s an actual woman or just identifies as one. Can’t do that. That would legally be discrimination even though I should get a choice about who is going to be poking around in my vagina.

Not a chance that the current federal government will correct the SDA and all other options for future federal governments are shit. The LNP are arseholes and terrible for the ordinary citizen, and Pauline and her One Nation party are dangerous incompetent fuckwits.

I would have thought this kind of nonsense is a dream come true for populist politicians

everyone knows that men aren’t women and most people aren’t happy to be asked to pretend when it starts to impact them

The situation is increasingly reminding me of the beginning of The Handmaid's Tale, where we're 'Canada', looking over with horror at what's happening to our neighbours, and wondering if it's going to spread.

Ironic that real-life Canada is nearly as bad.

😞so sad.

What’s the majority feeling like? Does anyone support this win?

I’m hoping for backlash and a change of laws pressured by votes but maybe some are for what’s happening.

Yes, and all sports, awards, school activities, girl scouts, gyms, hospitals, rape crises centres, hostels, half-way houses, women only yoga classes and pole dancing classes (recent case on Gold Coast), toilets at work, breastfeeding groups, single-sex schools, anywhere basically where women might just want to be in the company of other women only. It is completely fu**ed, I hate my country today for not caring enough about what this means.

'Roxy Tickle' - sounds like a drag queen name.

I stand with Sal Grover!

I stand with Sal 💜💚

He knos that we all know he’s a man and was always a man and will die a man.

this has ruined Sal financially? She fundraiser the case but had debt from setting the app up that she can’t run? And is a single mother. I hope she is doing ok

Would that be legal to set up such an app? I'm not trying to be difficult, just thinking aloud.

Roxy Tackle

If you don’t let me change here, I’ll sue you.

Yes agree with this.

It must mean a man can have the same outcome in any situation be it a sports team or prison.

How can they distinguish anywhere?

Yes this.

As devastating as it may be for Sall today - she’s exposed the absurdity of the law and the Judicary have no other option.

Force legislations to accept reality and accept their mistakes.

It is waking a nation - so well done Sal.

In the meantime start up an app for people who were female for first five years of life, or a group for people who have unteruses, or CY chromosomes or some other century that excludes men until such time as the law catches up.

Sall 💚💜

"It's not the fault of the Australian courts, it's the fault of Australian legislators who made the law."

This. Given that "gender identity" is protected by Australian law this doesn't seem to be an error by the courts....

You think, how can this madness happen, and yet, it does. I’m sure Sall will carry on the fight, but what a grim warning to the rest of the world?

This ^ is the problem.

It's not the fault of the Australian courts, it's the fault of Australian legislators who made the law.

My (probably mistaken) understanding is that whereas the UK Equality Act has separate protected characteristics of sex and gender, the corresponding Australian legislation does not, and sex and gender are treated as the same thing. So if you identify as female in Australia, that's what the law says you are.

Happy to be corrected by people who know better than me

( After the FWS case I seem to recall watching a webinar from the LSE where I think Ben Cooper mentioned this and said we were fortunate in the UK that Parliament had had the foresight to distinguish between the two)

In 1902 Australia passed an act giving women the full rights to vote and run for election, the first in the world to do so.

This is an image of a banner created by Australian artist Dora Meeson and was first carried by Vida Goldstein and other Australian women in a march in London in 1908. The banner asks ‘Mother England’ to entrust women with the responsibility and the right to vote, as the Australian nation had done in 1902.

Times have changed....

banner for women voting rights 1908

https://digital-classroom.nma.gov.au/images/banner-encouraging-united-kingdom-give-women-vote-dora-meeson-coates-1908

Tickle knows he's a man, just as the rest of the world now knows it too.

I stand with Sall Grover. She doesn't deserve this for speaking the truth.

Stay strong Sall.
your country has trashed women s rights in favour of predatory or fetishistic men.
You have fought and the tide will turn.

Roxanne Tickle is a man. A biological male.

Dark days for Australia. If they can lie about biological facts and reality, what other lies are they telling.

Feel hurt on your behalf Sal Grover and stand with you.

Is it possible for Sal to take a leaf from pirate radio days and set up on a sovereign island state nearby? Not sure of the tech necessary. Pitcairn springs to mind as sufficiently stroppy.