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Roxy Tickle is a man. I stand with Sall Grover.

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ArabellaScott · 10/09/2026 18:18

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/breaking-news/giggle-for-girls-app-founder-loses-final-appeal-bid-in-landmark-trans-discrimination-case/news-story/7db773b0207192809214c498c8048e9

Sall. ❤

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JellySaurus · 11/09/2026 21:48

FairAmberEagle · 11/09/2026 21:21

We are seeing now that it's only the cis parents that are making children conform to stereotypes. Their are actually many children who are trans who fake being the wrong sex because of parents forcing them. Thankfully good teaching is proving its working to let them be whoever they want to be with the latest teacher training.

The anti-safeguarding, pro-harm MRAs are clutching at straws.

Parents who don’t subscribe to the delusional transgenderist ideology support their children’s nonconformity to stereotypes. The children who fake conformity, or try to escape into trans identities generally do so as a result of unsupported neurodivergence, or peer pressure, or internalised (or external) homophobia, or as an escape route from the trauma of sexual abuse. Thankfully good law and good teaching are prioritising safeguarding and working to let children be themselves in safety, with the opportunity to express themselves and explore their worlds - without fixing them for ever in a life of lies and ill health.

Heggettypeg · 11/09/2026 21:34

FairAmberEagle · 11/09/2026 21:15

Who? Every Cis here saying she isn't a woman.

It's so clear, some of you could get into trouble at work if your boss saw these posts. You sure wouldn't get away with this in a staff room. It's bigoted and discriminatory in the extreme.

All that proves is that their boss is a blithering idiot with a totalitarian mindset who ignores facts.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 11/09/2026 21:31

FairAmberEagle · 11/09/2026 21:00

The fact so many people are aggressive about this topic just shows how far out of touch you are with your own children and the new way of education.

Where ‘new way of education’ = confusing the fuck out of children by lying to them

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 11/09/2026 21:29

FairAmberEagle · 11/09/2026 21:15

Who? Every Cis here saying she isn't a woman.

It's so clear, some of you could get into trouble at work if your boss saw these posts. You sure wouldn't get away with this in a staff room. It's bigoted and discriminatory in the extreme.

Who is this ‘she’?

CassOle · 11/09/2026 21:27

mrshoho · 11/09/2026 21:13

Could you give some examples of who is ignoring diversity.

I see many posters here acknowledging biological reality and campaigning for the dignity and safety of women and girls. Is this what you are referring to?

Maybe they are trying to diversify truth by including utter bollocks, lies, falsehoods and deceptions in it?

FairAmberEagle · 11/09/2026 21:21

EasternStandard · 11/09/2026 21:17

Know better about what? A child will recognise a boy or girl. It’s only adults who confuse with gender ideology. An adult shouldn’t ask a child to lie.

We are seeing now that it's only the cis parents that are making children conform to stereotypes. Their are actually many children who are trans who fake being the wrong sex because of parents forcing them. Thankfully good teaching is proving its working to let them be whoever they want to be with the latest teacher training.

EasternStandard · 11/09/2026 21:17

FairAmberEagle · 11/09/2026 21:07

You are ignoring diversity. Even children know better.

Know better about what? A child will recognise a boy or girl. It’s only adults who confuse with gender ideology. An adult shouldn’t ask a child to lie.

FairAmberEagle · 11/09/2026 21:15

mrshoho · 11/09/2026 21:13

Could you give some examples of who is ignoring diversity.

I see many posters here acknowledging biological reality and campaigning for the dignity and safety of women and girls. Is this what you are referring to?

Who? Every Cis here saying she isn't a woman.

It's so clear, some of you could get into trouble at work if your boss saw these posts. You sure wouldn't get away with this in a staff room. It's bigoted and discriminatory in the extreme.

mrshoho · 11/09/2026 21:13

FairAmberEagle · 11/09/2026 21:07

You are ignoring diversity. Even children know better.

Could you give some examples of who is ignoring diversity.

I see many posters here acknowledging biological reality and campaigning for the dignity and safety of women and girls. Is this what you are referring to?

DrBlackbird · 11/09/2026 21:11

The dreadful aspect laid bare is how, at the heart of genderism, is the drive to dominate and control women. And to do so by taking away our language, our words, spaces and rights to be recognised as a sex class.

This man has been allowed to use the law to dominate and control Sal. His incel hatred of a woman and women has been facilitated by the state.

And I know that others are saying ‘it’s the law’ but laws have always had to be interpreted. I cannot help but believe if those judges had wanted to set the record straight on sex based rights, they could have found a way. It’s state based violence over women.

One step away from The Handmaids Tale.

FairAmberEagle · 11/09/2026 21:07

mrshoho · 11/09/2026 21:04

What is it that we are not getting right? Could you give some examples please.

You are ignoring diversity. Even children know better.

mrshoho · 11/09/2026 21:04

FairAmberEagle · 11/09/2026 21:01

In fact most of you could do with going back to school and learning all over again and getting up to date with modern times.

It's 2026.

What is it that we are not getting right? Could you give some examples please.

FairAmberEagle · 11/09/2026 21:01

In fact most of you could do with going back to school and learning all over again and getting up to date with modern times.

It's 2026.

FairAmberEagle · 11/09/2026 21:00

The fact so many people are aggressive about this topic just shows how far out of touch you are with your own children and the new way of education.

TurkishShepherd · 11/09/2026 21:00

Walkden · 11/09/2026 18:05

"And yet here we are in 1984. Australian woman forced to say a large manly man is a woman just like them."

Well this law was voted for the Australian parliament ( both men and women) and no party would win without women voting for them for it's not like if they are being to say this, other women are partly responsible...

Where did I say women weren't partly responsible?

We have strong feminist women on this very board still voting Labour because of wider policies; ignoring their assertions that a male can indeed be born in the wrong body/babies are born without a gender/ women can have a penis. Don't mistake votes for true belief in this bullshit.

I doubt half the politicians really believe either, most of them want to keep their jobs and are possibly secretly stunned that it's gone this far - case in point, the giggling fool Alexandria OC claiming 'woke 1.0 was crazy' now the wind has changed.

PeachyDaisy · 11/09/2026 20:48

As an Australian, I unfortunately think it will take a long time to fix. Voters do not prioritise this issue highly, in fact, it's hardly much of an election issue at all.

EasternStandard · 11/09/2026 20:46

PeachyDaisy · 11/09/2026 19:50

More than partly responsible. The Australian parliament is 50% women and the person who introduced this law was a woman (Julia Gillard).

Just looked her up, what a mistake that legislation is.

It’ll take voting to get out of it.

KnottyAuty · 11/09/2026 20:40

PeachOctopus · 11/09/2026 14:08

This judgement will come back to haunt them we have seen this movie before.
There’s no way the Australian government can not be harmed by this kind of idiocy.

100%

mrshoho · 11/09/2026 20:33

To get out of this mess requires political change. The leading Labour party with the Greens threw out the opposition coalition's calls to define biological sex and protect single sex spaces. Australia will bide it's time and women and children continue to be discriminated. I guess as time goes on more sunlight on the absurdity of these lies as well as more and more of the population being impacted will bring the change. To think I was once envious of the Australian dream. Think I'll stick with the UK 🇬🇧

PeachyDaisy · 11/09/2026 19:50

Walkden · 11/09/2026 18:05

"And yet here we are in 1984. Australian woman forced to say a large manly man is a woman just like them."

Well this law was voted for the Australian parliament ( both men and women) and no party would win without women voting for them for it's not like if they are being to say this, other women are partly responsible...

More than partly responsible. The Australian parliament is 50% women and the person who introduced this law was a woman (Julia Gillard).

Walkden · 11/09/2026 18:05

"And yet here we are in 1984. Australian woman forced to say a large manly man is a woman just like them."

Well this law was voted for the Australian parliament ( both men and women) and no party would win without women voting for them for it's not like if they are being to say this, other women are partly responsible...

TurkishShepherd · 11/09/2026 14:38

Australia has essentially denied that females are a discrete category without males.

No administrative process (because fundementally that's what the law and court system is) can deny millions of years of human biology which everyone has understood since before time began and the exisitence of which is necessary for life.

And yet here we are in 1984. Australian woman forced to say a large manly man is a woman just like them.

Australia is lost to its deep rooted misogyny and I am so very grateful to live on Terf Island today.

AimsAndObjectives · 11/09/2026 14:28

Manxexile · 11/09/2026 13:16

This is something I'd like to know

I find it hard to believe that there is any sort of consensus or majority of public opinion in Australia that would support the idea that the law (and everybody else) has to recognise you as being of the sex you say you are.

You don't even have to think about it for more than a few seconds to realise it'll lead to a massive car crash of a fuck up.

Many Australians already know this is all bollocks:

43% are against transgender people being allowed to use single-sex facilities that correspond to the gender they identify with; 43% are in favour (down from 53% in 2023).

53% are against transgender athletes competing based on the gender they identify with rather than the sex they were assigned at birth; 21% are in favour (down from 27% in 2021).

In fact, across all the countries surveyed one can see a drop in support for these sorts of policies over the last 5 or so years. The consequences of treating sex and gender as the same thing gradually seep out, despite the best efforts of politicians who lack integrity and a craven press. Unlike all the (rightly) successful progressive movements of recent times, the more the public sees of this one, the less it likes.
https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2026-07/ipsos-lgbt-plus-pride-surey-report-2026.pdf

https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2026-07/ipsos-lgbt-plus-pride-surey-report-2026.pdf

PeachOctopus · 11/09/2026 14:08

This judgement will come back to haunt them we have seen this movie before.
There’s no way the Australian government can not be harmed by this kind of idiocy.

Grammarnut · 11/09/2026 13:50

The Australian judiciary and its government must be terminally ignorant of biology and a pack of misogynists to boot. Everywhere else this ideology is coming under scrutiny and sex is gradually taking its rightful place in legal decision. Why is Australia so lacking in sense?

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