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BBC drops Drag Race UK

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NotInMyyName · 10/09/2026 11:26

Sadtimes#

“Started in 2019, Drag Race UK brought British drag into mainstream entertainment in the UK”. I think the Black & White Minstrel Show played a similar role in platforming Black performers in the 1950/ 1970s. And made them mainstream entertainment. Giving a voice to marginalised, and underrepresented cultures. BBC

Michelle Visage, Graham Norton, Ru Paul and Alan Carr on the main stage of Ru Paul's Drag Race UK. Michelle is wearing a latext dress, graham a golden blazer, and ru is wearing a pink and red dress with red furry boots. Alan is wearing a pink shirt and...

Drag Race UK: BBC drops Ru Paul show after eight series

Future series will no longer be broadcast on BBC Three as the show moves to a streaming platform owned by its production company.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq63816e60lo

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moto748e · 11/09/2026 01:10

It's ugly and crude and misogynistic, and really hasn't got anything to do with Paul O'Grady or Barry Humphries. Not before time.

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 11/09/2026 01:05

*isn't going to be for all of them, apologies.

Gay men aren't a monolith, and don't need telling how to live, love.or express their sexuality. Some play with gender, many don't. So what?

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 11/09/2026 01:03

CreativeGreen · 10/09/2026 18:40

Don’t be so bloody stupid

I’m sure a lot of men do enjoy dressing up as women to mock them - how the hell that’s any kind of role model for adolescents who are starting to wonder if they’re gay I have no idea.

Don’t know if you’ve noticed but women have also been raped and murdered a fair bit over the years.

Drag hates women even if it doesn’t know it

Drag is a celebration and protest.

It's not a celebration of sexual violence. And as if I haven't noticed sexual violence, when I and all of my friends - every woman I've ever met, in fact - have been sexually assaulted. I'm a childhood violence survivor too.

Young gay men know who they are. They aren't 'confused' and have plenty of positive role models - teachers, parents and people in all professions. How they choose to express their sexuality is up to them. Watching a drag queen is going to be for all of them - but it won't harm them.

And again, my main point was how racist it is to compare drag to minstrelsy. Gay men having fun with gender isn't what's oppressing women - it's rape culture, the destruction of our services, and creeping fascism.

No drag queen ever advocated removing my reproductive rights, defended violence against women, or defined me by my genitals. That's Reform.

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 11/09/2026 00:46

ArabellaScott · 10/09/2026 18:35

It's a protest against all the systemic power women enjoy over men. I see.

Nope, a protest at the criminalisation of being gay, and the relentless, violent, ignorant targeting of queer communities which continues today. A fuck-you stand against the orderly daughters, often.

JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 10/09/2026 21:30

Arran2024 · 10/09/2026 20:58

They had a contestant called "A'Whora" and he doesn't see a problem with that?!!

Yep.

Thats fine - just take the piss out of around 50% of the population.

Note the “hilarious” witticism of using the words “pussy” and “snatch” in their pathetic contests. Both vulgar words for female genitalia. That, apparently is celebrating womanhood and tradition.

Arran2024 · 10/09/2026 20:58

They had a contestant called "A'Whora" and he doesn't see a problem with that?!!

Binnyforthewin · 10/09/2026 20:50

Hopefully it is an indication of the world continuing to move into the post-woke era.

SwanUpmanship · 10/09/2026 19:29

I doubt the decision was made on moral grounds - it will be that they can't afford it. Fewer and fewer people are paying for TV licences - the BBC is in a financial mess.

zanahoria · 10/09/2026 19:25

Funnywonder · 10/09/2026 18:37

It has probably just run its course. I doubt it’s due to a tide of dawning realisation. But good riddance all the same.

Plus they overhyped it

It was always being promoted on iPlayer

elgreco · 10/09/2026 19:16

It is a form of mockery, which like all mockery can be funny if done well (Lilly , dame edna- both men were funny out of drag) but falls incredibly flat if done by a talentless, crude, lipsyncing oaf (the vast majority of drag queens ).also the sheer monotony of them, appearing in everything....

Waitwhat23 · 10/09/2026 18:54

There's always the 'ooh, it's not mocking women, it's a tribute/for 'feminine men'/all a bit of fun, you joyless harridans!!!' while the terminology includes the hideously misogynistic term 'fishy'.

'Hahahah! Let's laugh about the supposed smell of women's vaginas! So hilarious and edgy!'

At it's core, it's men punching down on women.

JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 10/09/2026 18:48

nutmeg7 · 10/09/2026 18:42

I agree.
It objectifies women, but women who object are brushed aside as spoiling the fun. It isn’t done by people with any real respect for women.

This 100%.

I’ve seen today just how many female impersonators really don’t like women, or respect their views and right to dislike drag. It seems if you express an opinion you are, “an ugly, dried up old harridan” or automatically homophobic.

nutmeg7 · 10/09/2026 18:42

CreativeGreen · 10/09/2026 18:40

Don’t be so bloody stupid

I’m sure a lot of men do enjoy dressing up as women to mock them - how the hell that’s any kind of role model for adolescents who are starting to wonder if they’re gay I have no idea.

Don’t know if you’ve noticed but women have also been raped and murdered a fair bit over the years.

Drag hates women even if it doesn’t know it

I agree.
It objectifies women, but women who object are brushed aside as spoiling the fun. It isn’t done by people with any real respect for women.

heathspeedwell · 10/09/2026 18:41

I remember going to the local, rural, gay pub in my late teens and they had a drag act on. He performed a sex act on a very vulnerable local lad for whom it was quite obviously his first sexual encounter. The drag queen thought it was funny. It really wasn't. I think most of us in the pub thought that 'performance' was abusive.

Clearly drag exploits women, but I also think it empowers a certain type of man to ignore boundaries and that is bad for everyone.

CreativeGreen · 10/09/2026 18:40

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 10/09/2026 18:30

Minstrel shows were part of violent systemic racism. They were vital props (and propaganda) for slavery, depicting Black people as subhuman simpletons incapable of making their own decisions.

Under slavery, Black women were treated as less than animals, raped from cradle to grave by their 'owners', forced through rape to create more and more children until they died, often very young.

Minstrel shows promoted the lie that Black women were promiscuous, stupid and undeserving of any rights.

Comparing any form of minstrel show to drag is repellent. Women do drag, and it is a protest. Drag has always been subversive, and a way for LGBT+ people to express themselves. Try reading some queer history and seeing why.

It is deeply racist to compare drag to minstrel shows. A total denial and
trivialisation of the malice and violence behind the former.

Don’t be so bloody stupid

I’m sure a lot of men do enjoy dressing up as women to mock them - how the hell that’s any kind of role model for adolescents who are starting to wonder if they’re gay I have no idea.

Don’t know if you’ve noticed but women have also been raped and murdered a fair bit over the years.

Drag hates women even if it doesn’t know it

nutmeg7 · 10/09/2026 18:39

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 10/09/2026 18:30

Minstrel shows were part of violent systemic racism. They were vital props (and propaganda) for slavery, depicting Black people as subhuman simpletons incapable of making their own decisions.

Under slavery, Black women were treated as less than animals, raped from cradle to grave by their 'owners', forced through rape to create more and more children until they died, often very young.

Minstrel shows promoted the lie that Black women were promiscuous, stupid and undeserving of any rights.

Comparing any form of minstrel show to drag is repellent. Women do drag, and it is a protest. Drag has always been subversive, and a way for LGBT+ people to express themselves. Try reading some queer history and seeing why.

It is deeply racist to compare drag to minstrel shows. A total denial and
trivialisation of the malice and violence behind the former.

Yawn.

Funnywonder · 10/09/2026 18:37

It has probably just run its course. I doubt it’s due to a tide of dawning realisation. But good riddance all the same.

Wineryvinery · 10/09/2026 18:37

Good riddance

ArabellaScott · 10/09/2026 18:35

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 10/09/2026 18:30

Minstrel shows were part of violent systemic racism. They were vital props (and propaganda) for slavery, depicting Black people as subhuman simpletons incapable of making their own decisions.

Under slavery, Black women were treated as less than animals, raped from cradle to grave by their 'owners', forced through rape to create more and more children until they died, often very young.

Minstrel shows promoted the lie that Black women were promiscuous, stupid and undeserving of any rights.

Comparing any form of minstrel show to drag is repellent. Women do drag, and it is a protest. Drag has always been subversive, and a way for LGBT+ people to express themselves. Try reading some queer history and seeing why.

It is deeply racist to compare drag to minstrel shows. A total denial and
trivialisation of the malice and violence behind the former.

It's a protest against all the systemic power women enjoy over men. I see.

ArabellaScott · 10/09/2026 18:34

cherryicecreamisnice · 10/09/2026 17:55

Every gay pub in the 80s had a drag act on and I hated it couldn’t wait for it to go out of fashion…

Once it may have been a bit daring to have drag queens on the telly. It's now become about as edgy as soggy pan bread, and less funny.

And after it lost the edge, and since it stopped being funny, what was left was just men mocking women with cheap, vindictive digs.

ArabellaScott · 10/09/2026 18:31

At last.

Off you fuck, you tedious misogynist fucks.

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 10/09/2026 18:30

NotInMyyName · 10/09/2026 11:26

Sadtimes#

“Started in 2019, Drag Race UK brought British drag into mainstream entertainment in the UK”. I think the Black & White Minstrel Show played a similar role in platforming Black performers in the 1950/ 1970s. And made them mainstream entertainment. Giving a voice to marginalised, and underrepresented cultures. BBC

Minstrel shows were part of violent systemic racism. They were vital props (and propaganda) for slavery, depicting Black people as subhuman simpletons incapable of making their own decisions.

Under slavery, Black women were treated as less than animals, raped from cradle to grave by their 'owners', forced through rape to create more and more children until they died, often very young.

Minstrel shows promoted the lie that Black women were promiscuous, stupid and undeserving of any rights.

Comparing any form of minstrel show to drag is repellent. Women do drag, and it is a protest. Drag has always been subversive, and a way for LGBT+ people to express themselves. Try reading some queer history and seeing why.

It is deeply racist to compare drag to minstrel shows. A total denial and
trivialisation of the malice and violence behind the former.

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 10/09/2026 18:30

NotInMyyName · 10/09/2026 11:26

Sadtimes#

“Started in 2019, Drag Race UK brought British drag into mainstream entertainment in the UK”. I think the Black & White Minstrel Show played a similar role in platforming Black performers in the 1950/ 1970s. And made them mainstream entertainment. Giving a voice to marginalised, and underrepresented cultures. BBC

Minstrel shows were part of violent systemic racism. They were vital props (and propaganda) for slavery, depicting Black people as subhuman simpletons incapable of making their own decisions.

Under slavery, Black women were treated as less than animals, raped from cradle to grave by their 'owners', forced through rape to create more and more children until they died, often very young.

Minstrel shows promoted the lie that Black women were promiscuous, stupid and undeserving of any rights.

Comparing any form of minstrel show to drag is repellent. Women do drag, and it is a protest. Drag has always been subversive, and a way for LGBT+ people to express themselves. Try reading some queer history and seeing why.

It is deeply racist to compare drag to minstrel shows. A total denial and
trivialisation of the malice and violence behind the former.

zanahoria · 10/09/2026 18:27

cherryicecreamisnice · 10/09/2026 17:55

Every gay pub in the 80s had a drag act on and I hated it couldn’t wait for it to go out of fashion…

I could never get over how repetitive it was and still is.

I enjoyed it once but after that it soon became very tedious.