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BBC drops Drag Race UK

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NotInMyyName · 10/09/2026 11:26

Sadtimes#

“Started in 2019, Drag Race UK brought British drag into mainstream entertainment in the UK”. I think the Black & White Minstrel Show played a similar role in platforming Black performers in the 1950/ 1970s. And made them mainstream entertainment. Giving a voice to marginalised, and underrepresented cultures. BBC

Michelle Visage, Graham Norton, Ru Paul and Alan Carr on the main stage of Ru Paul's Drag Race UK. Michelle is wearing a latext dress, graham a golden blazer, and ru is wearing a pink and red dress with red furry boots. Alan is wearing a pink shirt and...

Drag Race UK: BBC drops Ru Paul show after eight series

Future series will no longer be broadcast on BBC Three as the show moves to a streaming platform owned by its production company.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq63816e60lo

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alcovecupboards · 11/09/2026 16:54

Waitwhat23 · 11/09/2026 16:43

Ooh, I'm actually surprised you didn't stick a 'pearl clutching' or 'hysterical' in there!

https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/28/vivienne-hits-back-criticised-using-word-fishy-big-fat-quiz-year-2019-11970023/amp/

Note that the apology for using a hugely offensive term wasn't to women, but to the trans community.

'But laughing at the supposed smell of women's vaginas is soooo funny! If you don't find it funny, you have 'very low level offence sensors, don't you know!!'.

I couldn't eye roll more, pal.

That wasn't Drag Race. That was the Big Fat Quiz of the Year 2019.

alcovecupboards · 11/09/2026 16:53

Rollingpinofdoom · 11/09/2026 16:48

but if someone misgenders a transperson it’s literal genocide isn’t it? So how come calling a TIM a man is literal violence, but mocking and degrading women is ok?

I don't believe either of those things so you'll have to ask someone who does. Are you always this aggressive and unpleasant to people who reasonably disagree with you about a TV show?

AimsAndObjectives · 11/09/2026 16:51

alcovecupboards · 11/09/2026 16:32

If Drag Race UK is 'offensive and demeaning to women' then you no doubt have a very low level offence sensors so you shouldn't be too confused.

So you can't explain your own assertion then. Par for the course, I guess.

Rollingpinofdoom · 11/09/2026 16:48

alcovecupboards · 11/09/2026 16:32

If Drag Race UK is 'offensive and demeaning to women' then you no doubt have a very low level offence sensors so you shouldn't be too confused.

but if someone misgenders a transperson it’s literal genocide isn’t it? So how come calling a TIM a man is literal violence, but mocking and degrading women is ok?

BaronessBomburst · 11/09/2026 16:45

Wait, Sam Fox is a lesbian?
Oh wow, that's tickled me pink. 😁
All those Sun readers....... 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Waitwhat23 · 11/09/2026 16:43

alcovecupboards · 11/09/2026 16:32

If Drag Race UK is 'offensive and demeaning to women' then you no doubt have a very low level offence sensors so you shouldn't be too confused.

Ooh, I'm actually surprised you didn't stick a 'pearl clutching' or 'hysterical' in there!

https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/28/vivienne-hits-back-criticised-using-word-fishy-big-fat-quiz-year-2019-11970023/amp/

Note that the apology for using a hugely offensive term wasn't to women, but to the trans community.

'But laughing at the supposed smell of women's vaginas is soooo funny! If you don't find it funny, you have 'very low level offence sensors, don't you know!!'.

I couldn't eye roll more, pal.

The Vivienne responds to criticism for use of word 'fishy'

She apologised for any offence caused.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/28/vivienne-hits-back-criticised-using-word-fishy-big-fat-quiz-year-2019-11970023/amp/

AquamarinePearlGold · 11/09/2026 16:38

DeanElderberry · 10/09/2026 12:10

Nobody in the B&W Minstrel Show was black.

Lovely to see the offensive tide of womanface starting to recede.

I think this was the point being made.

alcovecupboards · 11/09/2026 16:33

Wishesandhorses · 11/09/2026 16:27

And you can be homosexual and be a bit 🤔🙄😡 at the implication that mad offensive misogyny and sexual behaviour is just all totes a normal part of being gay and everyone should celebrate it. No thanks. Likewise 'celebrity' masterchef, which got to be knee deep in men in drag. Tedious.

The BBC have finally realised that mad overexposure for years and years while ignoring all feedback has caused the exact opposite effect of what they intended.

Hundreds of contestants and two being drag queens is hardly 'knee deep' is it?

alcovecupboards · 11/09/2026 16:32

Waitwhat23 · 11/09/2026 16:30

I can't be the only one wondering why objecting to men (of any sexual orientation or gender identity) being offensive and demeaning to women is framed as 'naked homophobia'.

You're going to have to explain that to me as if I'm 5, I'm afraid.

If Drag Race UK is 'offensive and demeaning to women' then you no doubt have a very low level offence sensors so you shouldn't be too confused.

Waitwhat23 · 11/09/2026 16:30

I can't be the only one wondering why objecting to men (of any sexual orientation or gender identity) being offensive and demeaning to women is framed as 'naked homophobia'.

You're going to have to explain that to me as if I'm 5, I'm afraid.

Wishesandhorses · 11/09/2026 16:27

And you can be homosexual and be a bit 🤔🙄😡 at the implication that mad offensive misogyny and sexual behaviour is just all totes a normal part of being gay and everyone should celebrate it. No thanks. Likewise 'celebrity' masterchef, which got to be knee deep in men in drag. Tedious.

The BBC have finally realised that mad overexposure for years and years while ignoring all feedback has caused the exact opposite effect of what they intended.

alcovecupboards · 11/09/2026 16:21

Lots of people here claim they would have supported Lily Savage - but she was a single mum under social services investigation for abusing her criminal kids, pimped them out and regularly used vulgar language and drugs/sex terminology with audiences. She was a hoot! Honestly some of these posts are just naked homophobia. You can believe in the right to single sex spaces and enjoy yourself watching drag acts!

Treaclewell · 11/09/2026 15:35

EssexLounger · 11/09/2026 11:57

Not accepting certain payment types is hardly excluding non-Brits.

Believe me, it was something of that sort, I didn't imagine it. There was something they did not like, and it was odd. Big sign several metres tall, large lettering, up on the wall as you walked in, gone the next week

EssexLounger · 11/09/2026 11:57

Treaclewell · 11/09/2026 11:20

Sorry, I can't recall exactly. I went back to read it and be sure I hadn;t imagined it, and it had gone, which confirmed I had been right. It was about methods of payment and excluded some forms - would it have been the cards issued to asylum seekers? Seems unlikely. I was going to photograph it to go away and think. They had a food department. But it seemed odd.
The diner with good breakfasts was much more explicit. Union Jack, and "England, love it or leave it." on display over the counter. It was the memory of that which alerted me at the garden centre. Somone must have had a word.

And back on track on the English, the kind of Morris which includes a Betty seems quite harmless, though I noted an Austrian version which was nasty and scarey, though not in the same way as drag.

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Not accepting certain payment types is hardly excluding non-Brits.

EssexLounger · 11/09/2026 11:55

It hasn't been cancelled, it is simply moving to the streaming service from the production company.

A lot of moaning, nonsense talk over "fascism", because people don't want to pay £5 a month to watch it.

Love4both · 11/09/2026 11:44

Never liked drag so good but should never have been on at all

Chersfrozenface · 11/09/2026 11:38

..and in one case died whilst sodomising a dog.

Other way round, in the interests of factual accuracy.

Treaclewell · 11/09/2026 11:20

Lins77 · 11/09/2026 09:55

I know this is off topic, but I'm really curious about the coded notice.

Sorry, I can't recall exactly. I went back to read it and be sure I hadn;t imagined it, and it had gone, which confirmed I had been right. It was about methods of payment and excluded some forms - would it have been the cards issued to asylum seekers? Seems unlikely. I was going to photograph it to go away and think. They had a food department. But it seemed odd.
The diner with good breakfasts was much more explicit. Union Jack, and "England, love it or leave it." on display over the counter. It was the memory of that which alerted me at the garden centre. Somone must have had a word.

And back on track on the English, the kind of Morris which includes a Betty seems quite harmless, though I noted an Austrian version which was nasty and scarey, though not in the same way as drag.

SnoopyPajamas · 11/09/2026 10:27

This is interesting news. A new series of Drag Race seems to have started within the last week or so. iPlayer has been aggressive about shoving it in my face, despite me never showing any interest. They did a similar thing with a drag queen comedy a few months ago, and with the godawful Disney Doctor Who. All were given the hard sell on the iPlayer homepage, in quite a desperate way, before flaming out and being cut loose from the BBC stable.

I'm guessing viewership has fallen off a cliff.

ChequerToRed · 11/09/2026 10:21

I see the Graun has a particularly whiny and teeth gnashing article about its cancellation, boiling down to little more than ‘but…but what about the REPRESENTATION?!’. This and any other article in a similar vein are ignoring a few salient points;
Its viewing figures have dropped by a third.
Drag has become very over-exposed.
The over-exposure has had the inevitable effect that drag has become boring (let’s face it, the ballroom style drag schtick is, underneath the wigs and sequins, shallow, samey, and lacking scope for true originality) and it’s slipping out of fashion.

bathofbeans · 11/09/2026 10:16

The kind of drag that people are disgusted by, the 'fishy whore' type get up, I truly believe is because these particular men are insanely and obsessively jealous of how naturally and effortlessly sexy and beautiful women are.

They have to tear us down as they can't ever achieve it with their scaffolded fake boobs and bodies, sewn in arses, wigs and caked on makeup. They have to throw in constant putrid jibes about straight women's sexuality to make it clear how much they hate and despise them.

And they all (without exception) look ridiculous - like circus clowns at a strip club.

Shortshriftandlethal · 11/09/2026 10:04

JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 11/09/2026 09:19

Possibly, but if there was strong viewing figures, much as I loathe it, I expect the BBC would have kept it - so maybe the fact that the public are turning away is the major reason?

Strictly is well past its sell by date, but still continues to be very popular, so makes commercial sense to keep it alive.

Agree so much with the comments about Hinge and Bracket, Edna Everage and Lily. These artists were clever and witty and had real talent. There was nothing offensive about their acts and as a woman, I felt an empathy with the characters.

The brash sexuality, fetishising and crudeness of the current batch of female impersonators is a complete turn off and nowhere near the skill of the previously mentioned.

I looked up why Paul O’Grady dropped Lily Savage and apparently one of the reasons was realizing he could connect with audiences and be just as funny without the heavy drag. He also remarked that wearing miniskirts and full drag felt increasingly undignified as he got older.

Drag is not wholesome at all...and certainly not something for family viewing as it was starting to become. The whole drag culture, the jokes etc are often sexualised and 'smutty'.

Also in recent times a number of high profile drag queens have died from recreational drug overdoses, and in one case died whilst sodomising a dog.The decadent, 'subversive' and 'transgressive' culture in which drag operates in not in the least bit family friendly, or benign.

Sometimesitsmyownfault · 11/09/2026 10:04

So pleased to read this earlier. It was utter shite!
Pissed off about Ski Sunday though.

EssexLounger · 11/09/2026 09:55

RaininSummer · 10/09/2026 18:17

I don't really get why it represents LGBTplus to be honest... Do straight men never do drag. Honest question as I don't know. How do they know the drag queens are gay or whatever. And surely they aren't trans as surely trans people wouldn't parade about saying they are dressing and performing as what they think a woman is?

Well then you get onto the mess that is TQ+, whereby straight people can be part of the original LGB community because trans can mean just about anything today. Trans is a deliberately ambiguous term.

Lins77 · 11/09/2026 09:55

Treaclewell · 11/09/2026 08:42

There's a garden centre near me, a good one, which I no longer use, partly because of a coded notice excluding non-British people, quickly removed, but mostly because they hosted drag nights, and one of the performers used a pornified version of my perfectly ordinary name. It was worse than when I hear a person calling their dog by it, because at least they like their dog. (Bitch)

I know this is off topic, but I'm really curious about the coded notice.