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The Proclaimers... another reason to love them

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AMouseWithValour · 09/09/2026 13:37

Sunshine on Leith makes me cry every single time, but who would have thought that they would come out swinging for women's rights?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/efa9ba470db8e0cd

The interview is very punchy, and well worth a read.

'That, though, wasn’t the primary reason that, in May’s Scottish parliamentary elections, Craig didn’t vote SNP for the first time since 1983. That reason was “the anger that I still feel that they passed a self ID bill which was so badly [formulated]”. He’s talking about the 2022 Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill that makes it easier for individuals to change their legal gender. “It’s so badly done that it inevitably led to violent men, including convicted rapists, being sent to women’s prison. For me, that is unforgivable.”'

I'm going to stream the new album as soon as I can. And, as a side note I think they are one of the best bands I've seen.

The Proclaimers: The trans lobby are truth-phobic

Ahead of a provocative new album, Craig and Charlie Reid on their anger at the SNP, Western warmongering and the imperilment of free speech

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/efa9ba470db8e0cd

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BezMark · 13/09/2026 08:07

I'm trying to figure out how to get a hold of the new album from a real shop. Used to be you would go to the woolies in the nearest town but today it looks like I'd have to get the bus all the way into glasgow just to find a shop selling new CDs

HannahinHampshire · 13/09/2026 17:56

I’ve had a day of life admin at home all day accompanied by the Proclaimers on Spotify. I’ve always loved them but there are so many songs I’d never heard! Charlie’s voice is just exquisite on the ballads.

viques · 13/09/2026 20:41

HannahinHampshire · 12/09/2026 21:58

I’d never heard of Nicky Spence, the philistine I am! He was great.

It was great. I thought the arrangements flowed really well and he was having such a ball it was impossible not to enjoy it. 🐉nearest I can get to a Nessie.

5MinuteArgument · 14/09/2026 10:10

ArabellaScott · 11/09/2026 11:11

Just not true, though. Plenty lefty men.with gc views

In public life? In the arts, politics, media etc? Why are we talking about the Proclaimers then? Because they are unusual in being left-wing with a public profile and GC. There's a few others but not many.

5MinuteArgument · 14/09/2026 13:33

5MinuteArgument · 14/09/2026 10:10

In public life? In the arts, politics, media etc? Why are we talking about the Proclaimers then? Because they are unusual in being left-wing with a public profile and GC. There's a few others but not many.

There's not many left-wing women in public life who are GC either. That's why JKR gets so much flak. We are pack animals and it takes a lot of guts to break ranks and move away from the herd.

I've always swum against the tide but it's a character trait that hasn't served me well.

JulesJules · 14/09/2026 18:19

This popped up for me (algorithm 😁) it's wonderful - the Proclaimers singing Sunshine on Leith, in Leith with a crowd of 6000 all singing along. My mum was Scottish and loved the film, makes me think of her every time I hear it.

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BoreOfWhabylon · 14/09/2026 20:56

Thank you for that @JulesJules
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SexMatters84 · 16/09/2026 19:13

Proclaimers are going to be on BBC R4 Front Row tonight.

AliceinNumberland · 16/09/2026 19:28

Anyone listening? Good comment about ‘I thought people were supposed to go to university to learn to think’

SexMatters84 · 16/09/2026 19:42

I'm going to have to catch up later.

AMouseWithValour · 17/09/2026 09:19

I listened - thank you for the heads up.

My heart sank when I heard it was Kirsty Wark as she has form on being in the 'Be Kind' brigade. But at least she gave us that amazing interview with Germaine Greer.

In the end she swerved the trans issue, but it was very interesting that they kicked off with the Proclaimers' very vocal support of Palestine. No matter where you stand on this issue, their stance means that they cannot be pilloried by the omnicause lot.

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NebulousSadTimes · 17/09/2026 09:46

Was it just me who thought Kirsty didn't have her usual 'smiley' arselicky voice on while speaking to Craig and Charlie?

LeftieRightsHoarder · 17/09/2026 10:38

worrisomeasset · 09/09/2026 14:09
It’s clear from the rest of the interview that they are very, very left-wing. It’s crazy that TWAW has become part of left-wing orthodoxy, and they deserve congratulations for putting their heads above the parapet on this issue.

I agree. I can’t understand why anyone on the left would support a solipsistic, antisocial, misogynistic movement based on the ridiculous lie that humans can change sex.

It’s disappointing that so many supposedly leftwing groups are proving to be deeply misogynistic.

I was gutted by Billy Bragg’s betrayal of women. But I now have yet another reason for loving the Proclaimers ❤️❤️❤️

napody · 17/09/2026 14:47

AMouseWithValour · 17/09/2026 09:19

I listened - thank you for the heads up.

My heart sank when I heard it was Kirsty Wark as she has form on being in the 'Be Kind' brigade. But at least she gave us that amazing interview with Germaine Greer.

In the end she swerved the trans issue, but it was very interesting that they kicked off with the Proclaimers' very vocal support of Palestine. No matter where you stand on this issue, their stance means that they cannot be pilloried by the omnicause lot.

How have I never watched this. GG the coolest, funniest most badass person ever. Can Kirsty really be TWAW if that's the quality of her interrogation? Someone who really believes it would have better questions than that, surely?!

NebulousSadTimes · 17/09/2026 18:03

That video has reminded me of the programme, Womanhood, that Kirsty Wark was in with five other women a few years ago. Does anyone else remember it? I can't remember much more about it than my feeling of disappointment.

lcakethereforeIam · 18/09/2026 11:30

The Proclaimers were very much a band that happened to other people to my shame. Although I always enjoyed belting out 500 miles or one of their few other songs that got radio airplay where I lived. I'd got the impression, fuck knows from where, that they were all rockabilly music!? That wasn't to my taste and I was careful what cds i bought as i didn't have much money or a cd player. Thinking I ought to correct that I've had a look at their back catalogue 😯, so many records! I'm feeling a little overwhelmed.

I'm embarrassed to admit I went to see a Runrig gig (really enjoyed it too) and shelled out on one or two of their cds. Boy did I back the wrong horse thereBlush.

BezMark · 18/09/2026 13:00

The best ones imo are Persevere, Restless Soul, or Sunshine on Leith.

In some ways Hit The Highway was my album of theirs as it came out when I was at uni and I listened to it a lot. And it is good, no mistake, but I think suffers a little due to the preponderance of breakup tunes. A middle aged divorced man of a record, on the whole. One who is still funny as hell on a drink, just don't mention his ex...

2021x · 18/09/2026 13:02

They didnt hold back, did they?

While I don't agree that Daniel Radcliffe and co. have to support JK Rowling and should feel they have to bend the knee because they were films about the book they wrote... I agree with them that they could not have bought into the aggression towards her.

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