School brings in trousers only rule for all pupils - schoolgirls said to be in tears ...

This,
One of mine was a nightmare to find trousers for. She just wasn't the 'right' shape - tiny waist, broad hips.

Schoolgirls have been rolling hems up since the end of time. First secondary school I was in I didn’t bother, just had knee/calf length skirt. My best friend there constantly tried to roll the waistband and hem up. Second private convent school had an almost ankle length pleated skirt that was nigh on impossible to roll up the waistband but I’m sure some tried.

To be fair maybe I’m old but I don’t recall
seeing arse skimming school skirts on teenage girls when I was at school in early 80s onward (55 now). In fact quite a few teenage girls freaked out about their slim skinny legs believing them to be fat, the thighs. Well I did anyway. And I was a size 4-6 naturally. I mean if teenage girls now have enough body confidence to wear arse skimming skirts then all power to them and call me a prude I do not want to see their knickers in skirts that short. And no, I didn’t wear super short skirts or skirts, though did wear “short” skirts and shorts. My mum would’ve killed me if I’d shown my knickers in clothing.

DD went to a non uniform school along with millions of girls around the world. She wore jeans or shorts every day from age 4-18 without any issue.

Why do some girls feel it’s appropriate to wear skirts the length of their knickers and equally why are their parents not ensuring they are dressed in the correct school uniform and supporting schools?

For goodness sake!
I'm willing to bet that at least 95% of these poor heat stressed girls own at least one pair of jeans or leggings which they most definitely wear in the summer, without risk of fainting from the summer heat.

Oh pinafore, I couldnt think of the word. Then the length doesnt change.

So why is it being standardised as default male? And why are girls being told to moderate male behaviour? Get boys to stop upskirting, rather than get girls to change their behaviour.

Boys respect for girls, or girls respect for themselves?

How do you avoid upskirting when I as a driver can see up their skirts without even trying.

Possibly would be a solution to get skirts with braces already built into the fabric, you cant take the braces off so you cant wear the skirt on its own and of course cannot roll it up.

Loads of women wear trousers everyday. No issue.

Yeah but as an adult female you have choices about how you deal with periods.

As a teen girl I didn’t even have a choice about towels or tampons because we lived miles from shops. Thick tights and a skirt saved my embarrassment a few times when I wasn’t prepared.
I know schools are equipped these days but trousers are still unforgiving of random bleeds.

@IwantToRetire
In the name of 'equality' lets
Make it so all the boys have to wear kilts.......

It's probably to stop upskirting etc. Of course, it would be too much trouble to hammer home to the boys respect for girls and mandatory expulsion if they use phones for this? And report to the police, of course, since it is a sexual assault.
I think secondary schools should be single sex, personally. It does wonders for girls' self-esteem and resilience not to have to deal with boys all day.

Seriously, who cares. Better than having your skirt length measured by a male deputy head with a ruler, as happened at my kid's school only three years back. (He wasn't wearing a skirt that day, thank god. What a perv that DH was.)

School uniform is being standardised so it's cheaper. I remember when girls.were banned from.wearing trousers because it didn't look feminine enough, things are so much better now.

So what's the objection (and floods of bitter tears) to trousers instead of skirts on the girls?

There is no trouser issue! And to be fair it is probably partly the crotch visibility problem that schools are trying to tackle by changing from skirts.

Some many Victorians out there. It has been pretty normalised for women to wear trousers for well over a century.

School girls wearing trousers isn't going to make them all catch "trans".

Why is OP debating that this is a boy problem? For once it genuinely isn’t! This is girls who want to rebel against uniform rules who have pushed it too far. It’s happened in my local area too, with exactly the same outcome. The intermediate step was a skirt designed to show when it was rolled and discourage rolling. They still did it. Play silly games, get silly prizes. Problem solved.

Culottes then, or skirts with mandatory modesty shorts underneath. That solves the trouser issue and prevents crotch visibility. The boys could wear them too if they want.

I can nearly guarantee that if uniforms were banned tomorrow, the girls would not wear skirts ever. How many teenage girls have you seen wearing knicker level skirts recently? They are all in wide legs, jeans or leggings. Do they think we are fools?

This objection to trousers is another stamping of foot thing. Wear the damn things or go to another school. Head is right, teachers are far too highly qualified to waste time telling girls to let their skirts down, come on now.

Because its the girls not wearing their skirts properly. What is hard to get about this?

Well if youve never seen this you've never driven or walked around local secondary schools, knickers and bums are clearly on show. Its purposeful. Its not an accident. And thats why the choice to wear them has been removed, simple. Teachers spend too much time dealing with shit.

God, these endless, endless tedious arguments about uniforms.

Kids who can wear what they want generally don't choose micro mini skirts. Outside of school, they're all in saggy trackie bottoms.

I'd like to see a poll on this whether people are pro or anti.

I am pro! Think it's a great idea IF it's been thought through properly, ie: shorts options which will work for girls in summer or a light fabric alternative.

I'm from a northern town with a high Muslim population so most girls at my school wore trousers anyway to cover up.

Why mandate all kids have to wear trousers and not skirts? Why is it automatically seen as easier to force the girls to conform and not the boys? That doesn’t seem very equal to me 🤷‍♀️

It was never an issue when I was at school and any such girl replying as such would have been told to not be so ridiculous!

There is nothing male about wearing trousers - you never wear a pair of jeans?

I would have hated this for periods. A skirt hides much more and feels much safer.