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Marina Hyde backs J K Rowling for PM

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Secretsquirrelshh · 05/09/2026 08:25

Marina Hyde in the Guardian today is asked who she would choose for Prime Minister. Her answer (and an excellent idea all-round) is J K Rowling.

A nod, perhaps, to Hyde's opinion on current issues - and as far as I'm aware, she hasn't entered the debate previously.

And this in The Grauniad too!

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callmeLoretta1 · 06/09/2026 11:28

Mouldemort · 05/09/2026 12:03

You can be assured that she is genuinely anti-trans and was not doing a bit.

As opposed to genuinely anti-women and femphobic?

callmeLoretta1 · 06/09/2026 11:30

MrPrettyDamnCosmic · 05/09/2026 12:53

TransParentlyAnnoying isn't a woman & doesn't have a "trans" child.

I did wonder if it was a male. Whoever they are I honestly don't know how they haven't been banned by now.

MrPrettyDamnCosmic · 06/09/2026 12:04

callmeLoretta1 · 06/09/2026 11:30

I did wonder if it was a male. Whoever they are I honestly don't know how they haven't been banned by now.

He started posting under that username last January. First he claimed to be a "cis" woman with three kids then to have two second cousins who were "trans". Now he claims to be NB with a "trans" child. No parent & no woman could be as nasty vindictive & spiteful to other parents. He is absolutely vile to those who really do have "trans' children.

sandgreen · 06/09/2026 12:13

Violetparis · 06/09/2026 11:09

Marina Hyde has a new book out, I expect she said it to get more publicity/sales for it. I agree with her on JKR.

I’m not sure of this, although I see what you mean. The result could still be a thorough attempt at cancellation, character assassination from (certain) Guardian colleagues, including book reviews saying it’s a good piece of work ‘stained’ by her wrongthink, open letters to get her sacked, calls to boycott The Rest is Entertainment, oh Richard Osman must be a transphobe by association, let’s drag him into this - a big load of pain-in-the-arse hoo-ha that could all have been avoided by not giving that simple answer.

Even saying it was a joke (and thus alienating people originally on her side and more likely to buy the book) wouldn’t wash with either side then. The stakes are too high either way. So it’s a calculated risk from Marina and she must have thought about how she’ll deal with the next steps.

MrPrettyDamnCosmic · 06/09/2026 12:35

MrPrettyDamnCosmic · 06/09/2026 12:04

He started posting under that username last January. First he claimed to be a "cis" woman with three kids then to have two second cousins who were "trans". Now he claims to be NB with a "trans" child. No parent & no woman could be as nasty vindictive & spiteful to other parents. He is absolutely vile to those who really do have "trans' children.

I nearly forgot. His "trans" child is now an adult.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/09/2026 12:40

sandgreen · 06/09/2026 12:13

I’m not sure of this, although I see what you mean. The result could still be a thorough attempt at cancellation, character assassination from (certain) Guardian colleagues, including book reviews saying it’s a good piece of work ‘stained’ by her wrongthink, open letters to get her sacked, calls to boycott The Rest is Entertainment, oh Richard Osman must be a transphobe by association, let’s drag him into this - a big load of pain-in-the-arse hoo-ha that could all have been avoided by not giving that simple answer.

Even saying it was a joke (and thus alienating people originally on her side and more likely to buy the book) wouldn’t wash with either side then. The stakes are too high either way. So it’s a calculated risk from Marina and she must have thought about how she’ll deal with the next steps.

There seems to be a massive shift in public opinion in the last year or so. My take is that the overreach of extreme intimidation and bullying plus the relentless targeting of the young by adults who evidently had no care or empathy for children has resulted in the general public finally seeing this for what it is.

Too many of the lanyard classes are of course still working in the civil service, universities, the charity sector etc where speaking out is career ending. For the rest of society us, people have started pointing out what's happening. Marina will be aware of this, plus organisations like the BBC acknowledging their previous bias.
All these small steps leading to people finally feeling free to speak the truth.

Lovelyview · 06/09/2026 18:45

INeedAPensieve · 05/09/2026 14:04

Ah I see what was said in a previous page has been deleted now. Knowing all the wonderfully wise women that are on this section of Mumsnet, I do believe that most wouldn't report these type of comments, as unlike Reddit differences of opinion are allowed on here (in relation to gender ideology specifically). So I wonder at It being deleted. I mean, it was abhorrent but these comments serve to let those who don't comment see the emotional manipulation that TRA posters post.

Is it likely to have been a self-report? Post this sort of stuff then when people rightly call it out, self-report, get it deleted then it's plausible deniability? I wouldn't put any such tactics past these TRA posters tbh.

It's possible Mumsnet deleted it for libelling JKR.

Comtesse · 11/09/2026 23:28

Nooooo that’s a real shame - she is a must read for me.

2021x · 11/09/2026 23:59

MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/09/2026 12:40

There seems to be a massive shift in public opinion in the last year or so. My take is that the overreach of extreme intimidation and bullying plus the relentless targeting of the young by adults who evidently had no care or empathy for children has resulted in the general public finally seeing this for what it is.

Too many of the lanyard classes are of course still working in the civil service, universities, the charity sector etc where speaking out is career ending. For the rest of society us, people have started pointing out what's happening. Marina will be aware of this, plus organisations like the BBC acknowledging their previous bias.
All these small steps leading to people finally feeling free to speak the truth.

All of this and I expect watching 2 men get a gold medals for punching women in the face in the Olympics in 2024.

WarriorN · 12/09/2026 07:02

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 05/09/2026 09:00

Can we hope that it’s a sign of the times that (a) she was prepared to say it - for she will not be unaware of the ramifications - and (b) that the Graun published it?

Hope so

But there’s still a bitter taste due to how so many are guardian were treated. I wonder how they feel about this

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 12/09/2026 07:12

So is her late support for JKR because she knew she was leaving or is she 'leaving' because she showed support for JKR.

guinnessguzzler · 12/09/2026 07:14

NotBadConsidering · 11/09/2026 22:47

Well that explains her ability to speak out now. I was always surprised she hadn't left sooner.

Yabbadabbadooooooo · 12/09/2026 07:17

I’m now cancelling Marina Hyde for being a bigot!

NeelyOHara · 12/09/2026 07:19

Yabbadabbadooooooo · 12/09/2026 07:17

I’m now cancelling Marina Hyde for being a bigot!

I’m now following her and intend to buy her new book! Swings and roundabouts eh?

WhatNextImScared · 12/09/2026 07:19

I don’t think this gives you any sign of what she personally thinks at all (although there’s every chance she is GC). She’s just very sardonic and enjoys poking the beast. This is the funniest thing she could think to write in response to that question, given our current culture, not what she necessarily actually believes.

ItsCoolForCats · 12/09/2026 13:43

WhatNextImScared · 12/09/2026 07:19

I don’t think this gives you any sign of what she personally thinks at all (although there’s every chance she is GC). She’s just very sardonic and enjoys poking the beast. This is the funniest thing she could think to write in response to that question, given our current culture, not what she necessarily actually believes.

I agree with this. I think she was being mischievous. She knew answering JKR to the question would provoke the reaction it did, but I also think MH is smart and can see the witch hunt against JKR for what it is.

alcovecupboards · 12/09/2026 13:45

NeelyOHara · 12/09/2026 07:19

I’m now following her and intend to buy her new book! Swings and roundabouts eh?

Is it a book book? I love her writing and bought her last one only to discover it was a collection of her columns. I think she writes for TV shows now.

alcovecupboards · 12/09/2026 13:46

ItsCoolForCats · 12/09/2026 13:43

I agree with this. I think she was being mischievous. She knew answering JKR to the question would provoke the reaction it did, but I also think MH is smart and can see the witch hunt against JKR for what it is.

I don't actually think she cares either way - and not for nefarious reasons - it's just an ability those who grew up in immense privilege have to switch off from other people's plights.

ItsCoolForCats · 12/09/2026 13:57

alcovecupboards · 12/09/2026 13:46

I don't actually think she cares either way - and not for nefarious reasons - it's just an ability those who grew up in immense privilege have to switch off from other people's plights.

Perhaps. I remember this topic being discussed on her podcast a while ago, and she clearly articulated the GC position, so she does get it, even if she is not particularly invested in the debate.

Lovelyview · 12/09/2026 14:33

I think she admires JK Rowling and finally has the chance to say so. Good for her.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/09/2026 15:27

Marina actually shares this opinion with Dominic Cummings 😂 he once suggested her too.

AMouseWithValour · 12/09/2026 16:57

This has prompted me to pre order her book and I’ll be buying it for loads of people from Christmas.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 12/09/2026 16:58

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/09/2026 15:27

Marina actually shares this opinion with Dominic Cummings 😂 he once suggested her too.

yikes

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