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Marina Hyde backs J K Rowling for PM

99 replies

Secretsquirrelshh · 05/09/2026 08:25

Marina Hyde in the Guardian today is asked who she would choose for Prime Minister. Her answer (and an excellent idea all-round) is J K Rowling.

A nod, perhaps, to Hyde's opinion on current issues - and as far as I'm aware, she hasn't entered the debate previously.

And this in The Grauniad too!

OP posts:
sandgreen · 06/09/2026 10:30

I’ve always liked Marina Hyde, she’s always well informed, makes strong arguments and doesn’t play to the gallery. I can’t see that as pisstake of an answer. She’d be fully aware of what would happen once it was picked up, and it would be nice to see courage calling to courage as a result.

There’s certainly been a change in recent TRA discourse on X in recent weeks since the Harry Potter trailers started coming out, in line with the absurd arguments from the deleted post in this thread, of the ‘don’t watch, her money is killing us’ type stupidity. It’s flimsier and utterly baseless, but there’s more of a pattern - a bot campaign I’d wager.

AMouseWithValour · 06/09/2026 08:57

I’ve always liked her but her comments on the Baillie Gifford debacle convinced me that she was probably one of the best commentators I have come across.

She was painfully insightful on the smug, self righteous, puritanical arrogance of activists who have no idea what they are destroying, and who are only interested in virtue signalling.

i’ll see if I can dig it out.

nettie434 · 05/09/2026 19:47

WeirdyBeardyMarrowBabyLady · 05/09/2026 09:11

Whether intentional or not, I read that answer in conjunction with her response to the question about what qualities she values in a person:

Compassion, tolerance, wisdom, kindness, bravery, strength of character. And GSOH.

I totally agree. And Marina Hyde is right about the qualities that we should value most too. It's a highly entertaining article all round.

Brefugee · 05/09/2026 19:01

BackToLurk · 05/09/2026 13:11

The twat signal.

i call it the Bat[shit] Signal

dracn · 05/09/2026 18:58

I can’t shake the feeling she’s taking the piss in that article. I have certainly not taken it as a sign of support for JKR, though I do suspect Hyde is a sex realist.

MoistVonL · 05/09/2026 18:33

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 05/09/2026 12:36

JKR for PM or benign dictator, whichever is easiest. 😂

It's good that the Guardian can print a piece that mentions JKR, shades of the old paper peaking through.

Edited

I'd vote for that. We could do with a woman of good sense, compassion and a sense of the ridiculous.

TPA doesn't half like to spout libellous nonsense. Maybe they need a nice hobby like orienteering. Get them out in the fresh air a bit.

murasaki · 05/09/2026 18:24

BEAchDays2 · 05/09/2026 16:40

Hahahahhahahahahahaha.

Are you quite alright?

BEAchDays2 · 05/09/2026 16:40

Hahahahhahahahahahaha.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 05/09/2026 15:43

INeedAPensieve · 05/09/2026 14:38

Ok, you're all right - I stand corrected, it was libellous now I think of it, not just an "opinion". I do agree with the OP@Secretsquirrelshh - what sort of dark mind must they have to actually think this then post it without a second thought?

There's an increasing hyperbole amongst transactivists in the face of the increased mainstream understanding that targeting the young has been catastrophic for the long term safety and wellbeing of children. Recently there've been numerous allegations made on threads about safeguarding where posters are accused of being predatory simply for raising concerns about this vulnerable group of children.
This is evidently escalating now to include accusing public figures of fictitious dreadful crimes.

INeedAPensieve · 05/09/2026 14:38

Ok, you're all right - I stand corrected, it was libellous now I think of it, not just an "opinion". I do agree with the OP@Secretsquirrelshh - what sort of dark mind must they have to actually think this then post it without a second thought?

worrisomeasset · 05/09/2026 14:32

INeedAPensieve · 05/09/2026 14:04

Ah I see what was said in a previous page has been deleted now. Knowing all the wonderfully wise women that are on this section of Mumsnet, I do believe that most wouldn't report these type of comments, as unlike Reddit differences of opinion are allowed on here (in relation to gender ideology specifically). So I wonder at It being deleted. I mean, it was abhorrent but these comments serve to let those who don't comment see the emotional manipulation that TRA posters post.

Is it likely to have been a self-report? Post this sort of stuff then when people rightly call it out, self-report, get it deleted then it's plausible deniability? I wouldn't put any such tactics past these TRA posters tbh.

The post breached several of MN’s talk guidelines. I believe that allowing such comments to remain would lead to this place becoming a cesspit.

https://www.mumsnet.com/i/netiquette

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murasaki · 05/09/2026 14:29

RoyalCorgi · 05/09/2026 14:12

Yes, differences of opinion are allowed here, but Mumsnet are very twitchy about libel and rightly so. (Remember Gina Ford?) The deleted comment was unequivocally defamatory.

Yep, it was completely libellous, so had to go.

That poster is teetering on the edge at the moment.

Secretsquirrelshh · 05/09/2026 14:16

It must be horrible to genuinely believe that though, that this one person is spearheading an army that "ends lives".

You and I know it's utter nonsense, but it must feel very dark to believe that.

OP posts:
RoyalCorgi · 05/09/2026 14:12

INeedAPensieve · 05/09/2026 14:04

Ah I see what was said in a previous page has been deleted now. Knowing all the wonderfully wise women that are on this section of Mumsnet, I do believe that most wouldn't report these type of comments, as unlike Reddit differences of opinion are allowed on here (in relation to gender ideology specifically). So I wonder at It being deleted. I mean, it was abhorrent but these comments serve to let those who don't comment see the emotional manipulation that TRA posters post.

Is it likely to have been a self-report? Post this sort of stuff then when people rightly call it out, self-report, get it deleted then it's plausible deniability? I wouldn't put any such tactics past these TRA posters tbh.

Yes, differences of opinion are allowed here, but Mumsnet are very twitchy about libel and rightly so. (Remember Gina Ford?) The deleted comment was unequivocally defamatory.

INeedAPensieve · 05/09/2026 14:04

Ah I see what was said in a previous page has been deleted now. Knowing all the wonderfully wise women that are on this section of Mumsnet, I do believe that most wouldn't report these type of comments, as unlike Reddit differences of opinion are allowed on here (in relation to gender ideology specifically). So I wonder at It being deleted. I mean, it was abhorrent but these comments serve to let those who don't comment see the emotional manipulation that TRA posters post.

Is it likely to have been a self-report? Post this sort of stuff then when people rightly call it out, self-report, get it deleted then it's plausible deniability? I wouldn't put any such tactics past these TRA posters tbh.

martipants · 05/09/2026 13:57

It's so wonderful when someone you admire impresses you a bit more. I like the way MH didn't explain or defend her answer. I can't imagine what would compel JKR to run for PM but I would definitely vote for her!

DialSquare · 05/09/2026 13:49

nutmeg7 · 05/09/2026 13:44

“Poos of wisdom” is excellent in every way, and I shall remember to use it going forwards. ❤

Same here!

nutmeg7 · 05/09/2026 13:44

MrsOvertonsWindow · 05/09/2026 13:13

😳

“Poos of wisdom” is excellent in every way, and I shall remember to use it going forwards. ❤

nutmeg7 · 05/09/2026 13:39

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Bollocks and hyperbole. Truly pitiful.

SidewaysOtter · 05/09/2026 13:22

BackToLurk · 05/09/2026 13:09

Guilt can do strange things to people.

Doesn't it just. Helen Joyce was bob on when she talked about parents who transed their kids or supported transitioning having to face up to what they've done. Imagine seeing the long term impacts and knowing that you could have stopped it.

SidewaysOtter · 05/09/2026 13:20

Go on then, @TransParentlyAnnoyed, tell us how many lives JKR has "ended". And how would be helpful too; in the drawing room with a candlestick perhaps?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 05/09/2026 13:13

DialSquare · 05/09/2026 13:07

Perfect typo!

😳

BackToLurk · 05/09/2026 13:11

INeedAPensieve · 05/09/2026 12:14

Oh oh... The signal's gone out. The derailing of this thread will commence in 3,2,1...

The twat signal.

BackToLurk · 05/09/2026 13:09

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 05/09/2026 12:38

Fuck’s sake woman, would you ever listen to yourself?

Guilt can do strange things to people.

DialSquare · 05/09/2026 13:07

MrsOvertonsWindow · 05/09/2026 13:00

I love the fact that those who hate women having a voice spend so many hours on here with their fingers hovering, just waiting to find a thread mentioning JKR so they can share their poos of wisdom with us 😂

Perfect typo!