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Boys under spell of the manosphere are refusing to mix with girls in class

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IwantToRetire · 02/09/2026 19:11

Manosphere content exposes them to negative attitudes towards women and girls – objectifying them, dehumanising them and portraying them as inferior.

The manosphere is a loose network of digital forums and groups claiming to address men’s struggles.

But it often promotes harmful views of women and girls, while misrepresenting men as the oppressed victims of feminism.

‘A really big change I’ve noticed is the separation between boys and girls,’ Alex says of the workshops.

‘10 years ago, if you said in a classroom, “Guys, let’s get into groups”, there would be mixed groups.

‘Now if you say it, the boys will be on one side, and the girls will be on one side, and when you actually encourage mixing these groups, they are out of their comfort zone.

‘But we see that as an important thing to do because it’s not about singling out any gender around this education – it is about shared attitudes, boys who can become potential perpetrators but also girls knowing what shouldn’t be normalised as attitudes and actually being able to have that conversation in mixed groups.

‘But I think that just seeing that separation is something which, especially over the last three years, is something which has really changed.

‘It’s the culture that they’re exposed to online, the fact that boys are consuming a certain type of media and listening to a certain type of influencer and I guess not being exposed to the views of girls and women.

‘Taking that a step further, we’ve had male students who refuse to take instruction from female members of staff. Like, literally stonewall, “I’m not listening, I can’t hear you, I can’t see you”.

‘And yet, a male voice would say something a minute later, and they would react.

‘So, that takes that kind of classroom separation to the next level, where it actually impacts their behaviour and how they engage with teaching staff.’

Full article at https://metro.co.uk/2026/09/02/boys-spell-manosphere-refusing-mix-girls-class-29512168/

Boys under spell of the manosphere are refusing to mix with girls in class

https://metro.co.uk/2026/09/02/boys-spell-manosphere-refusing-mix-girls-class-29512168/

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CostcoFanofThree · 03/09/2026 16:13

What is the point you’re trying to make @IwantToRetire ?
Part of boys/girls not mixing choosing to split based on biological sex is normal childhood development.
Personally I find the article is poorly written.

MarieDeGournay · 03/09/2026 14:56

ThisFunSheep · 03/09/2026 14:11

The anecdote about kids not automatically mixing by sex is odd. I thought that was normal childhood development.

If it's "bad", why do we allow about 10 per cent of kids to go to single sex state schools?

I was surprised moving to London how common single sex schools are, not even necessarily selective or faith.

If it's a phase of 'normal childhood development', fair enough; if it's boys sexually harassing and abusing girls and women teachers I think it's something else.
It bolsters the argument for single sex schools - at least girls don't have to deal with that kind of abuse, even though other girls are no saints, and can get on better with their education.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 03/09/2026 14:20

It's always been the case that many girls and boys choose not to work together in classrooms. Which is why good teachers use a range of strategies for choosing groups where the adult's in charge.
I'm not denying that there are issues with online /social media and its influence on the young - just pointing out that this issue's been around for a very long time.

ThisFunSheep · 03/09/2026 14:11

The anecdote about kids not automatically mixing by sex is odd. I thought that was normal childhood development.

If it's "bad", why do we allow about 10 per cent of kids to go to single sex state schools?

I was surprised moving to London how common single sex schools are, not even necessarily selective or faith.

LlynTegid · 03/09/2026 13:18

FrippEnos · 03/09/2026 13:17

The thing is that pupils of both sexes will refuse to work with others, whether that person is male or female.

Sometimes pupils dislike others and don't want to work with them.

We have to be careful to make sure that we are tackling existing problems and not creating more.

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And we have to make sure that we are tackling problems that come from the home and not just blame the manosphere for what are cultural issues.

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Agree we have to separate out behaviours that have always existed and those driven by misogyny which results from online content being read.

Though neither is good.

FrippEnos · 03/09/2026 13:17

The thing is that pupils of both sexes will refuse to work with others, whether that person is male or female.

Sometimes pupils dislike others and don't want to work with them.

We have to be careful to make sure that we are tackling existing problems and not creating more.

Edited

And we have to make sure that we are tackling problems that come from the home and not just blame the manosphere for what are cultural issues.

MarieDeGournay · 03/09/2026 12:25

MoaningKeating · 03/09/2026 11:10

The Metro (whilst owned by the Daily Mail) has weekly articles from trans women claiming to be better feminists than any woman, promotion of trans ideology. But then runs articles like this pretending to support women. Very much like the "Mythical Misogyny" mentioned in another thread.

Yes I thought of the 'Mythical Misogyny' article too - this kind of behaviour by confused adolescent boys in schools is blown out of proportion, allegedly, and is not the same as Real Harm🙄

MoaningKeating · 03/09/2026 11:10

The Metro (whilst owned by the Daily Mail) has weekly articles from trans women claiming to be better feminists than any woman, promotion of trans ideology. But then runs articles like this pretending to support women. Very much like the "Mythical Misogyny" mentioned in another thread.

MarieDeGournay · 03/09/2026 11:04

There's an age when kids often go through an 'ewwww boys' or ewwwww girls' phase, isn't there?

I think it's different when older boys refuse to mix with girls and disrespect women teachers, because they are not just doing that childish ewwww thing, they are acting on a belief that girls and women are lesser creatures and are unworthy of respect as fellow human beings - even women teachers.

This goes to the very heart of sexism and misogyny: the mere fact of being female is enough to place women, even grown women, even professional women, even kind and supportive women teachers, even their own mothers, at the bottom of the human heap, ranking below even a 12 year old, cos when push comes to shove, he's a man and she's just a bitch. Probably a stupid bitch cos women's brains are smaller. So why should he listen to her?

Teaching union NASUWT has found that nearly one in four female teachers say they have been subject to misogyny from a pupil in the past year.
This is up from 22.2% last year, and up from less than one in five (17.4%) in 2023.
One teacher reported a student making naked images of her using artificial intelligence, while others reported being called misogynistic names regularly, and being meowed at by male students.
One in four female teachers subjected to misogyny amid 'masculinity crisis' in UK schools | LBC

"Boys have confronted me, shouted at me. Have had boys joke about raping girls in front of me and laughed about it when challenged."
Teachers union warns of 'masculinity crisis' brewing in schools

Instructions · 03/09/2026 11:00

Whilst I'm sure some of this is related to 'manosphere' content, when I was at school if we were asked to form groups they would have been sex segregated also: we did not want to be in groups with boys. Boys were annoying. Boys disrupted the work. Boys made stupid comments. Etc etc etc. In adult life if you asked me to form a group to do an activity I would still naturally look for other women to form the group with in almost all contexts.

FrippEnos · 03/09/2026 10:45

‘10 years ago, if you said in a classroom, “Guys, let’s get into groups”, there would be mixed groups.
‘Now if you say it, the boys will be on one side, and the girls will be on one side, and when you actually encourage mixing these groups, they are out of their comfort zone.

I found that if you let the pupils choose their own groups that they would automatically gravitate to their friendship groups.

The answer has always been if you want mixed sex groups, put them in mixed sex groups.

Treaclewell · 03/09/2026 10:31

When I was teaching in the last century, I had a couple of eight year olds, on separate occasions, who when expected to sit next to a girl in assembly, would squirm and pull away with a loud 'eew' expression as if the girl had something worse than the dreaded lurgi. I don't know where it came from, no others in the group had that attitude. Words were had, and they didn't try the 'I don't have to listen to Miss' line.

JohnofWessex · 02/09/2026 19:35

You can take control

Say who the groups are

Students who wont take instruction or tuition from a woman should be expelled, just what would happen in the workplace

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