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NEWS ARTICLE: "Give biological men legal right to compete in women’s sport, say Greens"

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singthing · 31/08/2026 13:49

I suppose you could at least praise them for their staying power at the looney-bar. They've come right out with it now though, no mincing about the edges of vague #BeKind nice-speak.

(Interesting to note they STILL don't get the EHRC guidance only serves the ACTUAL LAW though, withdrawn, live or written in Swahili)

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Give biological men legal right to compete in women’s sport, say Greens
Motion for conference claims current rules rooted in ‘historical colonial and Eurocentric attitudes’ and ‘transmisogyny’

The Green Party would give biological men a legal right to compete in women’s sports under proposals drawn up by its members.

The plans, which could become party policy within weeks, would “extend trans people’s rights” so they can compete in the categories “they feel most comfortable in”.

The proposals have been submitted for debate at the Green Party conference in October, as an amendment to another motion calling for an end to “gender-based blanket bans” in sport.

Under new government guidance published this year, public bodies must ensure sports teams are segregated based on biological sex, not gender identity.

Several sporting bodies – which set the official rules for UK competitions – have also updated their policies after the Supreme Court ruled last April that the words “woman” and “sex” in the Equality Act 2010 refer to a biological woman and biological sex.

Proponents say the changes are necessary to protect the integrity of women’s sports and keep female athletes safe.

However, the Green Party motion warns that sporting bans at “any level” have “serious consequences” for the physical and mental health of trans people. It also suggests that rules against biological men competing in female categories are rooted in “historical colonial and Eurocentric attitudes”, as well as “transmisogyny”.

The motion ‘Oppose Gender-Based Blanket Bans in Sport’ was submitted by Melissa Harker, the Greens’ first openly transgender councillor in the North East
In the long term, the amended motion urges the party to “legislate to protect and extend trans people’s rights to participate in sports in the gender categories they feel most comfortable in”.

In the short term, it calls for the Greens to campaign against “the complete or near-complete exclusion” of trans people from competing “in line with their lived gender” in any professional sport.

The original version of the motion – titled “Oppose Gender-Based Blanket Bans in Sport” – has been approved for debate at the Green Party conference in October. However, the likelihood of it being heard depends on where it falls on the final agenda.

It was submitted by Melissa Harker, the Greens’ first openly transgender councillor in the North East, and was backed by 48 members. The amendment, which was proposed by Anna Di Bona, has 11 supporters – including Harker.

The synopsis states: “Sport allows people to stay physically and mentally healthy. Sporting bans at any level, especially attacking trans people, have serious consequences for gender diverse and global majority peoples’ mental and physical health. We need to stop blanket bans, and hold sporting bodies accountable.”

The motion calls for all sporting bodies that have introduced bans against trans athletes – either directly or indirectly – to “publicly disclose all scientific evidence they based this decision on”.

It also demands an independent inquiry into the development of recent blanket bans “to ensure transparency and compliance with equalities obligations”.

The Green Party has already called for the withdrawal of the official guidance on single-sex sports teams, which was issued by the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) earlier this year.

Claire Coutinho, the shadow equalities minister, said: “The Green Party’s refusal to accept that there are biological differences between men and women will only serve to erase women’s spaces and women’s sports.

“Women shouldn’t be forced to compete against anyone who has a sex-based advantage in sport. It undermines fairness in sports and puts women’s safety at risk. We must have boundaries that protect women and girls from harm.”

A Green Party spokesman said: “The Green Party believes that the EHRC guidance should be withdrawn, and that trans women are women, trans men are men and that non-binary identities exist and are valid.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/08/31/green-party-biological-men-compete-women-sport-conference/

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caringcarer · 01/09/2026 00:35

Yet more loony left policies. Women will get seriously hurt or even die if this was to happen. Remember the boxer who loved beating up women.

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 01/09/2026 00:19

Unfortunately it's not true, and taking it to its logical conclusions leads its proponents into all sorts of unsustainable bollocks, which at some level which that they can't admit to, they must realise is absurd.

It is not a bug, it is a feature. The more absurd the claim, the better to demonstrate the fervor of your commitment to some men's need to claim women's rights the one true belief

Daphodils · 31/08/2026 22:54

AlecTrevelyan006 · 31/08/2026 22:20

funny thing is - I've always thought that if you truly believe that 'transwomen are women' then it is perfectly logical for you to argue that transwomen should be allowed to compete in women's sports. If you spout 'transwomen are women' but think that they shouldn't be allowed in women's sports then you are tacitly admitting that transwomen are, in fact, not women and that there are differences between the two groups...

transwomen are women

It's THE perfect slogan. It's memorable, it's simple, it's three words, there's a kind of semantic resolution to it, the repetition of "women" gives it a comfortable rhythm, it's expressing a type of equal treatment serving sounds just and fair.

Unfortunately it's not true, and taking it to its logical conclusions leads its proponents into all sorts of unsustainable bollocks, which at some level which that they can't admit to, they must realise is absurd.

Fascinationstreet · 31/08/2026 22:51

Imdunfer · 31/08/2026 14:17

To be fair that is not Green policy.

The way the Green Party is run lets any idiot put forward any motion they like to be voted on at conference to become policy.

It think it's bad enough that the party appears to be made up of cranks, but I'll wait for the outcome of the vote to decide how bad they actually are.

I think they're quickly making themselves look unelectable.

Going by our green councillors in Bristol, this sort of policy is fairly normal thinking for them, it’s not a fringe thought confined to certain idiots. They will walk out and refuse to even listen to their constituents asking about when Bristol council will be compliant with the equality act and follow EHRC guidance here.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn513wxrr3xo. Those holding the signs are our actual councillors , not members of the public.

A small crowd of people sat in a public gallery at a council meeting. Many people are holding up banners and flags. Some of the banners say "protect the dolls", "trans men are men" and "trans people exist". Nobody is looking at the camera.

Trans rights signs held up during row in Bristol council meeting

Trans rights banners and Pride flags are held up during a confrontational council meeting.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn513wxrr3xo

AlecTrevelyan006 · 31/08/2026 22:20

funny thing is - I've always thought that if you truly believe that 'transwomen are women' then it is perfectly logical for you to argue that transwomen should be allowed to compete in women's sports. If you spout 'transwomen are women' but think that they shouldn't be allowed in women's sports then you are tacitly admitting that transwomen are, in fact, not women and that there are differences between the two groups...

Dependsoncontext · 31/08/2026 22:10

Surely that would end biological women's sport.

Messedupmyusernameagain · 31/08/2026 22:07

I think patronising and racist just about sums it up really.

AstonCanKissMyArse · 31/08/2026 20:30

JFC green party, no one is 'banned'.

Fuck off, to the fat side of fuck, and when you get there, fuck off some more!

And as for that Euro centric bollox, that sounds like they're saying that non western people didn't understand how to reproduce until the good ole western colonists showed them what's what and how to ID men from women. Surely that can't be what they mean? Sounds terribly patronising and er racist really.

TL:DR- don't vote green, theyre batshit and have bog all to do with the environment.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 31/08/2026 17:14

They can't help exposing their fuckwittery can they? 2,500 comments and counting - most seem to mention clowns and the lack of any real green policies. 😂

RummidgeGeneral · 31/08/2026 17:08

Wishesandhorses · 31/08/2026 14:23

'Fuck that', say women.

Oh yes 100 times

borntobequiet · 31/08/2026 17:04

Ha ha. Idiots.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 31/08/2026 16:27

MarieDeGournay · 31/08/2026 14:57

I would add to that list the following:
I think the Greens should oppose the arbitrary blanket ban, clearly derived from historical colonial and Eurocentric attitudes, on a football player being in the attacking half and closer to the opposing team's goal-line than both the ball and the second-last opponent.

Oh no, they're not going after the off side rule. 😱

Messedupmyusernameagain · 31/08/2026 16:26

Imdunfer · 31/08/2026 14:17

To be fair that is not Green policy.

The way the Green Party is run lets any idiot put forward any motion they like to be voted on at conference to become policy.

It think it's bad enough that the party appears to be made up of cranks, but I'll wait for the outcome of the vote to decide how bad they actually are.

I think they're quickly making themselves look unelectable.

I would laugh so hard if the crackpots and Far Left travellers they have welcomed in vote for the stupidest, most extreme policies proposed ( they probably will) and they end up having to justify them in public.

roseyposey · 31/08/2026 16:25

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 31/08/2026 15:00

Need some help breaking down some of the new speak in the proposal

'Eurocentric attitudes’
‘transmisogyny’

Can anyone help?

Love your username. Me too.

Daphodils · 31/08/2026 16:23

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 31/08/2026 16:13

That caught my eye too, and sent my bolloxometer into the red zone.

I found this in the manual
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'Eurocentric attitudes’
‘transmisogyny’
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Manufacturers note: In order to prevent catastrophic overload, words that appear in this list must be whispered quietly into the bolloxometer, separated with at least 10 seconds of silence to allow for recovery. Manufacturer is not liable for damage that occurs due to improper use.

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Datun · 31/08/2026 16:18

Oh well, at least it lets the electorate see what kind of people are in the Green Party these days.

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 31/08/2026 16:13

That caught my eye too, and sent my bolloxometer into the red zone.

I found this in the manual
...
'Eurocentric attitudes’
‘transmisogyny’
....

Manufacturers note: In order to prevent catastrophic overload, words that appear in this list must be whispered quietly into the bolloxometer, separated with at least 10 seconds of silence to allow for recovery. Manufacturer is not liable for damage that occurs due to improper use.

Daphodils · 31/08/2026 15:47

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 31/08/2026 15:00

Need some help breaking down some of the new speak in the proposal

'Eurocentric attitudes’
‘transmisogyny’

Can anyone help?

That caught my eye too, and sent my bolloxometer into the red zone. I could only decrypt it with the help of AI which said

"Historical colonial and Eurocentric attitudes"
The argument here relies on the academic theory that strict, immutable male/female sex binaries were exported globally by European colonial powers. Proponents of this view argue that prior to European imperialism, many indigenous societies around the world had more fluid concepts of sex and gender.
In the context of modern sports, this argument claims that policing eligibility—such as measuring hormone levels or assessing biological characteristics—disproportionately targets and scrutinises non-Western or non-white female athletes whose bodies do not align with Western historical standards of femininity (often citing cases involving athletes from the Global South, such as Caster Semenya).

The obvious problem is that this conflates gender norms (how a culture expects men and women to behave or present) with biological sex (ie male and female gametes, skeletal structure, muscle density, lung capacity etc). "Gender presentation" may
be culturally influenced or historically eurocentric but very obviously the physiological advantages of male puberty (higher bone density, larger hearts/lungs, greater muscle mass) are universal biological facts not colonial inventions imposed upon oppressed peoples.

MarieDeGournay · 31/08/2026 15:30

Arran2024 · 31/08/2026 15:22

Trans activists keep going on about how sport is a human right. Well, i was no good at sport at school, didn't make any of the teams. No one was that bothered about making sure that I had sporting opportunities. Yet unsporty boys must be able to play. Hm......

Yes, and that ''sport is so important for the mental and physical well-being of trans youth.
Fine. Nobody's stopping them playing any sport they want.
In the correct category.

iwishitwouldstartraining · 31/08/2026 15:25

Arran2024 · 31/08/2026 15:22

Trans activists keep going on about how sport is a human right. Well, i was no good at sport at school, didn't make any of the teams. No one was that bothered about making sure that I had sporting opportunities. Yet unsporty boys must be able to play. Hm......

They also seem oblivious to the fact that women who identify as trans also rely on female sports categories to compete.

Arran2024 · 31/08/2026 15:22

Trans activists keep going on about how sport is a human right. Well, i was no good at sport at school, didn't make any of the teams. No one was that bothered about making sure that I had sporting opportunities. Yet unsporty boys must be able to play. Hm......

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 31/08/2026 15:10

YourWatermelonship · 31/08/2026 14:24

As a left-wing gender critical woman, watching the greens self destruct is a strange mixture of sad and compelling

After the heatwaves we've had this summer climate change is on everyone's minds in the UK. The green party should be capitalising on this. Sadly they lack both green policies and leaders with any intelligence.

Agreed, at a time when we really need a sensible green party with green policies all they seem able to do is fire up the bat-shit signal and randomly point it into the night sky.

tartyflette · 31/08/2026 15:10

That would gain huge amounts of votes in an election. Not.
Bye-bye women’s sport.

Kingdomofsleep · 31/08/2026 15:06

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 31/08/2026 15:00

Need some help breaking down some of the new speak in the proposal

'Eurocentric attitudes’
‘transmisogyny’

Can anyone help?

The word "transmisogyny" comes from men not letting women have anything, anything at all, of our own. Even a word for how they mistreat us

Wishesandhorses · 31/08/2026 15:04

Oh it's the usual bollocks - colonialism, homophobia, transphobia, heternormativeitywankerybullshit rightwing smelly .....

just big words that sound to someone not really thinking as if they have some kind of social justice point.