The small community of Millport is to have an LGBT+ pride. Thoughts?

Pam Currie is a local woman who lives on the island and is married to a woman. The community isn't predominantly Christian but there is a presence which is welcome as are gay residents and visitors.

I hope the sun shines on the day!

I assumed non binary, which didn't suprise me.

Presumably it's a marketing thing?

We can but hope!

How do you know Mx Currie is a gay woman? Mx is how they are referred to in the press article - there's nothing about their sexuality or sex.

Wow, you've just proved why LGB people should have the option to say no to the T. And also proved how little you understand the complex and misogynist history behind today's cultural links between same sex attraction and gender non-conformity.

I wrote a very good post about that a few years ago. You should look for it. Historical perspective is always good, and you might even learn something.

And come to think of it, you also prove how little you understand what people mean when they refer to genderism as an "ideology" (hint: no it's not whether trans people "exist" or not, it's the unevidenced and often contradictiry reasons given for why that is, and the excessive social and structural demanda that are made on top of them).

but Lewis and Harris have a much larger population than the wee isle of cumbrae!

Good for them.

On traitors this year there was a man from Lewis who talked about how difficult it was growing up gay in a small island community.

Christians can be gay too.

hoping the ferries are actually working

[deep breaths]
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[do not revisit Arran ferry debacle, do not go into swivel-eyed loon mode]
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Is it a Christian community? I don't know Cumbrae at all but my parents were stalwarts of the Church of Scotland on Arran, and I know from conversations with their church friends that attendance at the remaining churches on the island is pitifully small now. People still use the churches for funerals, they may attend at Christmas or Easter and they sometimes have christenings and church weddings. In the latter cases I would cynically suggest it's because it looks good in photos. I'm not getting the impression that faith of any sort is central to the lives of most people there, any more than it is in the rest of the UK. There are probably more Wiccans on Arran now than regular churchgoers.

I have the impression it's different further north where the Free Churches are still dominant.

The victimisation that LGB people have faced is very different in nature to that of transgender people

the reasons behind are different- one being provable innate and the other - even if there is an innate aspect - provable strongly society driven

I mean pride hasn't been extended to include other victimised groups like Jews or Muslims / just Ts - which seems arbitrary to me

Wow. You've just proved why trans people need and deserve to be included in Pride - as they have always been, from the very start.

Trans/nb people know what it's like to experience misogyny, homophobia, biphobia and acephobia as well. Lots of trans people are gay, bi, pan or ace.

Trans/nb people are as individual as anyone else, they just happen to be trans/nb while living normal lives. And people hate them for it, treating them as a hive mind and calling them an 'ideology' - which is why Pride is so important.

Sounds like it's more needed there than anywhere else. Pride in cities is often very corporate, this sounds far more organic and homegrown.

It will really help LGBT children who daren't come out, and sounds fun. Hope everyone has a good time.

I don't know why you thought it was necessary to point that out ! You seem surprised that a gay woman didn't want to point out her marital status and remain ambiguous.

Sounds like they need Pride then

Sounds like a good day out. Only thing I don't like - and as a secondary teacher the organiser should be aware of the issues - is having the youth section of the day be from age 12 to 25, which is an insane age range

Unexpected I agree, small scale and not corporate (let's support this but ill treat staff the rest of the year). If no-one's lives are being unduly disrupted, a free choice to stay away from it.

Sorry, I don't buy it.

Generally a good faith poster puts their own views in to play as well.

It's the use of the word "we" that jars.

Certainly there is a community of regulars on FWR but "we" are also a bunch of individuals who tend to work out what we think on important questions in daylight through discusion on the threads. The groupthink, such as it is, is mostly just in jokes and eyerolling at the ongoing groundhog day nature of TRActivist and TRAlly points.

The natural question for one of "us" would be "I'm not sure how I feel about this because XYZ....what do you think?" (or "what does everyone else think?") expecting to get a range of responses. It would be very weird to ask what "we" think about a topic as if there's some sort of agreed stance before the fact.

I have actually been noticing this a lot recently - posts asking what "we" think about some small and pretty innocuous social media or news post in what seems to be an attempt to elicit intolerant or petty responses, or a pile on against some poor individual like Orc guy So thank you for giving me an opportunity to flag something that has been niggling at me.

For the record:

I think it's great that small communities want to run Pride events as long as they are grassroots from the local LGB community not bussed in by activitss from elsewhere who either think they "should" have Pride event or are actually hoping to create a negative reaction they can leverage for publicity and don't care that this will actually hurt the local LGB community.

I also think that Genderism is a regressive sexist belief system and that adding T to LGB has diverted Pride into destructive and divisive political posturing instead of celebrating the existence and visibility and normality of being same sex attracted.

LGB needs to finally ditch the T.
They’ve gone away from being about same sex attracted to being filled with absolute fruit loops.

An absence of 'Kill Terfs' signs would be good too.

Mx Currie

Providing they are truly inclusive and eg welcome the LGB Alliance and lesbian groups for women only, then why not? Hopefully the blokes in fetish gear stay the hell away though.

Ooh I love Millport. I think they should make it a cycle round the island pride rather than a march.

The article said Pam Currie a local school teacher.

Who is organising it?

I know a new pride event near me. Almost all being organised by one bloke. A really nice bloke. Has expressed views which are not exactly corporate. Indeed wants to get away from corporate and council led and go back to grassroots. Fed up of the big pride events. We are supporting. He will do an amazing job.