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The small community of Millport is to have an LGBT+ pride. Thoughts?

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MintBird · 22/08/2026 22:17

Millport is on Cumbrae (don't confuse with Cumbria)- a small island on the West of Scotland coast, population not much over 1,000 with a lot of elderly. It's the only town on the island so most people generally just say Millport. As one of the more Southern islands and its small size it is popular for tourists and cycling.

So they are going to have their first ever pride on Sep 12th. Pride events usually happen in cities so it's unusual for one to take place in a small island with a lot of elderly and Christian residents. Some on social media are complaining the "ideology is being pushed on small island communities" whilst others are saying Ayrshire is a decade behind Glasgow in terms of LGBT acceptance with men or boys being targeted even for discreetly holding hands.

https://millportpride.wixsite.com/millport-pride

www.heraldscotland.com/news/26252152.millport-host-first-ever-pride-festival-september/

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https://millportpride.wixsite.com/millport-pride

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Snorlaxo · 23/08/2026 21:57

I’ve been to Millport on a family holiday and didn’t notice it being particularly Christian tbh. I’m a single parent and took my kids for a cycle around the island and references like the crocodile has brought back many happy memories.

Hope it’s a fun event for everyone attending.

INeverReallyLovedYouAnyway · 23/08/2026 21:46

Foundress · 22/08/2026 22:47

I have no strong views on this. As long as they don’t change the colours on the crocodile. If you know you know😂.

When I was a little girl, my mum told me that Elton John’s Crocodile Rock was written about the Millport crocodile.

Literally only dawned on me like a year ago that she was making that up 🤦🏻‍♀️

Arran2024 · 23/08/2026 21:46

intrepidpanda · 23/08/2026 18:26

We have booked the ferry when an event was on.

I'm surprised to hear that. I used to live in Largs and getting the car over on a sunny day was a nightmare. www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-samsung-rvo1&source=android-browser&q=can+you+book+the+ferry+to+cumbrae+in+advance#lfId=ChxjMe

GrumpyPanda · 23/08/2026 21:44

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 23/08/2026 11:56

Wow. You've just proved why trans people need and deserve to be included in Pride - as they have always been, from the very start.

Trans/nb people know what it's like to experience misogyny, homophobia, biphobia and acephobia as well. Lots of trans people are gay, bi, pan or ace.

Trans/nb people are as individual as anyone else, they just happen to be trans/nb while living normal lives. And people hate them for it, treating them as a hive mind and calling them an 'ideology' - which is why Pride is so important.

Trans/nb people know what it's like to experience misogyny, homophobia, biphobia and acephobia as well. Lots of trans people are gay, bi, pan or ace.

Ah yes, all the lovely straight blokes larping as "lesbians". Sure Jan.

GrumpyPanda · 23/08/2026 21:41

Lomonald · 23/08/2026 11:43

I don't know why you thought it was necessary to point that out ! You seem surprised that a gay woman didn't want to point out her marital status and remain ambiguous.

That would be Ms not Mx. Ffs, even the "proud to be a Mrs" crowd on here (who tend to cluster on AIBU not FWR) know the difference.

Shedmistress · 23/08/2026 20:39

I could not give a shiny shit who decides to have a PRIDE march or not, hope that helps.

KkkIt · 23/08/2026 20:32

I have been to Millport. Admittedly about twenty years ago. I spent a week staying at the cathedral. It was beautiful as a place to be on holiday/retreat, eating sandwiches for lunch on the beach and watching the seals. There was a mildly interesting museum and an aquarium but not much else to do. There seemed to be a lot of cheap vodka available for sale. It's probably a hard place to be young and a hard place to feel different and a hard place to be LGBT. I am not sure a festival will solve that but good on someone for trying.

SirChenjins · 23/08/2026 19:55

PriOn1 · 23/08/2026 19:35

It was a good while ago now, but when my neighbours’ daughter came out as a lesbian when still in her mid-teens, her parents took her to the Pride march in the nearby (small) city and marched with her, which I honestly thought was lovely.

I also have lesbian friends on Facebook who March every year and seem to have a great time.

I hope it’s a lovely occasion where positivity dominates.

Have they ever said how they square that with the other stuff that goes on at Pride? The banning of women-only lesbian groups and the LGB Alliance, the placards extolling violence against women, or the men in fetish gear for example.

PriOn1 · 23/08/2026 19:35

It was a good while ago now, but when my neighbours’ daughter came out as a lesbian when still in her mid-teens, her parents took her to the Pride march in the nearby (small) city and marched with her, which I honestly thought was lovely.

I also have lesbian friends on Facebook who March every year and seem to have a great time.

I hope it’s a lovely occasion where positivity dominates.

BackToLurk · 23/08/2026 18:44

highame · 23/08/2026 17:10

I don't really understand this thread. I have always understood that sex and gender discussion was not anti trans. I am only interested in women's rights. Trans men and women can get on with their own lives, so long as my right to single sex spaces is respected.

You’d have to ask the OP. I know there have been many instances of Pride festivals excluding some women’s group, which would be relevant to FWR, but the OP doesn’t mention women. Does mention men and boys though.

I suspect most people’s first ‘thoughts’ would be “that’s nice”.

UnaGatita · 23/08/2026 18:37

jocktamsonsbairn · 23/08/2026 17:09

I’m local, straight and think it’s great! The Arran pride is always very well supported as are other events, festivals etc on Cumbrae/Millport, this raises awareness and is inclusive.

What exactly does Pride raise awareness of these days?

intrepidpanda · 23/08/2026 18:26

Arran2024 · 23/08/2026 18:17

They have a country and western festival which brings in a lot of visitors. I expect this will do the same. But getting to and from Cumbrae is not that easy. The queues for the ferry if you take the car on a busy day are terrible - you can't book, you have to just turn up. And getting back can be tricky. We stayed in a cottage in Millport a few years ago. August. And we got stuck there due to bad weather!!

We have booked the ferry when an event was on.

intrepidpanda · 23/08/2026 18:25

I think Millport would be a great location for this type of event.

Arran2024 · 23/08/2026 18:17

They have a country and western festival which brings in a lot of visitors. I expect this will do the same. But getting to and from Cumbrae is not that easy. The queues for the ferry if you take the car on a busy day are terrible - you can't book, you have to just turn up. And getting back can be tricky. We stayed in a cottage in Millport a few years ago. August. And we got stuck there due to bad weather!!

StylesSluttyShorts · 23/08/2026 18:10

SirChenjins · 23/08/2026 18:01

It's been widely known for some years now that Pride is not the family friendly, fun event it once was. It's become very political, with many focusing very much on the demands of the Ts and far less on the LGBs. If the organisers of this event are able to stand firm, welcome all groups and views equally, and make it clear that no placards calling for terfs to die (and similar) or fetishes are allowed, then good luck to them.

Oh absolutely, but living nearby, all I see is every small place pushing the TQ+, a lot of the time, directly at kids.

WonderfulSmith · 23/08/2026 18:08

weegielass01 · 23/08/2026 12:55

but Lewis and Harris have a much larger population than the wee isle of cumbrae!

Yes, and if it’s hard for someone to come out as gay on Lewis then it’s going to be even harder in a smaller community.

SirChenjins · 23/08/2026 18:01

jocktamsonsbairn · 23/08/2026 17:24

I wasn’t aware of that to be honest. Maybe need to do a bit more reading up on that as it’s not really widely known.

I just meant if it’s raising awareness and supporting people to be more inclusive of everyone in their society then it’s a good thing. I hadn’t realised there was more to it than that. maybe it is a positive then if more people are talking about the bigger picture and people can find out more factual information.

It's been widely known for some years now that Pride is not the family friendly, fun event it once was. It's become very political, with many focusing very much on the demands of the Ts and far less on the LGBs. If the organisers of this event are able to stand firm, welcome all groups and views equally, and make it clear that no placards calling for terfs to die (and similar) or fetishes are allowed, then good luck to them.

jocktamsonsbairn · 23/08/2026 17:24

SirChenjins · 23/08/2026 17:11

How inclusive? Does it, for example, follow other Prides and ban the LGB Alliance or lesbian groups that don't allow men to join?

Edited

I wasn’t aware of that to be honest. Maybe need to do a bit more reading up on that as it’s not really widely known.

I just meant if it’s raising awareness and supporting people to be more inclusive of everyone in their society then it’s a good thing. I hadn’t realised there was more to it than that. maybe it is a positive then if more people are talking about the bigger picture and people can find out more factual information.

SirChenjins · 23/08/2026 17:11

jocktamsonsbairn · 23/08/2026 17:09

I’m local, straight and think it’s great! The Arran pride is always very well supported as are other events, festivals etc on Cumbrae/Millport, this raises awareness and is inclusive.

How inclusive? Does it, for example, follow other Prides and ban the LGB Alliance or lesbian groups that don't allow men to join?

highame · 23/08/2026 17:10

I don't really understand this thread. I have always understood that sex and gender discussion was not anti trans. I am only interested in women's rights. Trans men and women can get on with their own lives, so long as my right to single sex spaces is respected.

jocktamsonsbairn · 23/08/2026 17:09

I’m local, straight and think it’s great! The Arran pride is always very well supported as are other events, festivals etc on Cumbrae/Millport, this raises awareness and is inclusive.

SirChenjins · 23/08/2026 16:37

BackToLurk · 23/08/2026 16:28

Pam is very much TWAW, which is presumably the point of the OP highlighting this.

Ahhh, so inclusive but only to a point. I can never get my head around why some women are happy to watch other women being vilified, attacked, silenced and pushed out of their rightful spaces in order to centre men.

ElenOfTheWays · 23/08/2026 16:29

MintBird · 23/08/2026 10:33

I was interested in what Mumsnet would think of a small, rural, Christian community having an LGBT pride event so asked neutrally without saying too much of my own views.

Translation: I was hoping to get lots of screenshots of nasty comments from bigoted TERFS to post on Reddit.

BackToLurk · 23/08/2026 16:28

SirChenjins · 23/08/2026 16:11

How lovely she was able to meet and date her wife without interference from TIMs as has happened to so many lesbians. Hopefully she and the other organisers will ensure that it's a truly inclusive day, with men in fetish gear and placards calling for the death of terfs kept firmly on the mainland.

Pam is very much TWAW, which is presumably the point of the OP highlighting this.

SirChenjins · 23/08/2026 16:11

S0upertrooper · 23/08/2026 14:51

Pam Currie is a local woman who lives on the island and is married to a woman. The community isn't predominantly Christian but there is a presence which is welcome as are gay residents and visitors.

I hope the sun shines on the day!

How lovely she was able to meet and date her wife without interference from TIMs as has happened to so many lesbians. Hopefully she and the other organisers will ensure that it's a truly inclusive day, with men in fetish gear and placards calling for the death of terfs kept firmly on the mainland.

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