The small community of Millport is to have an LGBT+ pride. Thoughts?

Trans ideology is homophobic, how does that work, what about, say, gay men who only want relationships with other males?

I thought it was inclusive? 🤔

Yes, I assumed so. Would have thought that was obvious from my post. Given everything else I covered I am not sure why that somewhat redundant fact is what you felt you needed to be said in reply, but thanks for the engagement. Next time I need someone who will swerve hard topics in favour of stating the bleedin' obvious I know who to ask.❤

Was just about to say the same thing!

The important thing to note is that even though they neber answer this with specifics bevause they know they can't without admitting to the sexism that underpins the whole thing, nevertheless we do know by their support for the whole concept of trans gender identity that whatever they think "feeling like a boy/man" is, we already know what [they think] it isn't, which is simply knowing you have a male body.

So really, their definition of "cis" should be

"So if it says male on your birth certificate, you feel like a boy/man in a deep inner way that is not just because of your physical sex, and people describe you as he/him, then you are cisgender."

Which I think far fewer of the people Genderists lazily assume must be "cis" would sign up for.

This thread incidentally has helped me realise another of Genderism's incoherencies/bait and switches, this time around "cis". I'll start its own thread for that though.

Did they explain what feeling like a boy/man means?

I love the fact that even a gay man who was born male, feels like a man, and is referred to a he is welcome at the event. It's almost as if they don't know the history of Pride 🙄

It is for everyone, even if you are cis. And for those who have always wondered, they even helpfully explain what cis is

"So if it says male on your birth certificate, you feel like a boy/man, people describe you as he/him then you are cisgender."

I don’t think people should introduce foreign ways into our country. We need to make sure these foreign idols from the Middle East are driven out.

I think a pride festival to celebrate our community is called for and then we need to sacrifice a Christian to the ancient Gods. this is how our communities thrive when people try and introduce all this modern nonsense into our communities.

how can our community thrive without our annual sacrifice to our ancient Wikkan Gods in a wicker man?

Omg don’t even joke about that.

I agree. My gay friends don't bother with Pride, they're just getting on with their lives!

@SirChenjins my thoughts exactly. DH best mate is gay, he is just a regular bloke who happens to be gay. He would be marching in his M&S lambswool jumper.

That makes sense - it's difficult tp raise this issue if you're not close to them. I think a lot of people who wave the Pride flag do so with blinkers on - they simply see it as a pretty rainbow that shows how inclusive they are without any knowledge or understanding of the wider context or what it actually stands for. It demonstrates that they are either ignorant (wilfully or otherwise) or they genuinely believe that men should be given everything they demand through violence and intimidation, fetish gear on display in public is OK, snd children's normal healthy development should be chemically stopped. Neither is a good look and anyone who attends or promotes Pride goes way down in my estimation.

They’re Facebook friends and not close enough for me to have asked those questions. I do wonder, but haven’t found anyone to ask. It’s difficult to know how prominent those things are and whether they can simply be avoided or ignored, if you’re in a group.

While you can book a ticket online that does not get you a queue jump and the queue can go up to 2 hours for a 5 min crossing on sunny weekend days or when there is a festival on

Do island residents get to jump the queue? On the Kerrera ferry they do.

I thought Pride was dying out? Homophobia is about as acceptable are racism and gay people have no desire to be associated with the AGP creeps that turn out to these events to be turned on with ‘validation’.

I live close to Millport on the mainland and had noticed this being promoted and discussed on local Facebook groups with a typical mix of those passionate about its importance and those taking the piss.

it’s being organised by a local female secondary teacher (who is married to another woman, not trans) and very much has the vibe of one of the typical Millport festivals which happen for all sorts of things. I really hope they will avoid entertaining those in fetish gear or with nasty placards and lean into the inclusive family raising awareness and celebration angle. If so I’m sure it will be a fun day out for those who wish to celebrate.

The children who live there all go to high school on the mainland daily on a short coach ride - unlike other island communities mentioned is very close by, other than getting delayed occasionally when there are ferry issues this is not a remote location. Their secondary school is very active with LGBTQ+ activities and promotion. There are gay role models on the staff, and students openly exploring their ‘gender identity’ as well as sexuality. acceptance of all is actively taught in lessons. These aren’t oppressed remote kids growing up in a traditional Christian village where no one speaks of such things. The school did just change the toilets to single sex at the start of term, but made it clear that they still have alternative options and are still inclusive. I presume they were made to by NAC.

If you do plan to attend take heed of the comments about the ferry and leave the car on the mainland. All the events are in Millport so just go as a foot passenger and use the shuttle bus. Unless you want to visit other parts of the island a car is unnecessary. While you can book a ticket online that does not get you a queue jump and the queue can go up to 2 hours for a 5 min crossing on sunny weekend days or when there is a festival on.

It sounds like your saying Christians and the elderly are homophobic to the point they'd be offended by Pride. But obviously the people who live there are the ones setting it up? So they must be fine with it.

we campaigned for equal rights and received them. Pride isn’t the inclusive place it used to be imho. There is already so much ‘awareness’ in workplaces, government, media etc I’m also not sure what else we need to be aware of.

Why shouldn’t they? Gay people do exist even on islands! We have a lovely celebration in our small town and it’s important because there has been homophobic bullying in the high school. Religious beliefs are irrelevant to whether there’s a pride event. It’s just a jolly occasion here

Depends who has organised it. Is it the small rural Christian community themselves?

Or is it people from outside of the locale who are going to arrive to hold the event?

I suppose it will either be popular or it wont. Be a bit of a damp squib if about 30 people turn out.

The local Pride event here recently was badly viewed and received due to a fetish presentation from lots of the people taking part, huge emphasis on trans and families are rejecting the involvement now. I heard people talking about it near work recently.

Raging if that gets altered in anyway AT ALL!! Iconic 🐊

That's a good question. Back in days of yore when I used to attend Manchester Pride (early/mid 90s) it was all about gay rights. There was a palpable sense of community.
Now it seems to been a fragmented party for (often slightly odd) disparate groups under a guise of 'inclusivity'.

In between it's also been a big corporate money spinner but I think that ship has sailed now.

Goodness only knows where the awareness comes in. Awareness of how far Pride has fallen as a concept maybe ?

Oh that's lovely! Would have been amazing if it were true 😂

Cycling round Millport in the rain with a visit to the crocodile rock and a visit to the ice cream shop is a rite of passage for many Scottish kids - it's a lovely wee place.