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The small community of Millport is to have an LGBT+ pride. Thoughts?

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MintBird · 22/08/2026 22:17

Millport is on Cumbrae (don't confuse with Cumbria)- a small island on the West of Scotland coast, population not much over 1,000 with a lot of elderly. It's the only town on the island so most people generally just say Millport. As one of the more Southern islands and its small size it is popular for tourists and cycling.

So they are going to have their first ever pride on Sep 12th. Pride events usually happen in cities so it's unusual for one to take place in a small island with a lot of elderly and Christian residents. Some on social media are complaining the "ideology is being pushed on small island communities" whilst others are saying Ayrshire is a decade behind Glasgow in terms of LGBT acceptance with men or boys being targeted even for discreetly holding hands.

https://millportpride.wixsite.com/millport-pride

www.heraldscotland.com/news/26252152.millport-host-first-ever-pride-festival-september/

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https://millportpride.wixsite.com/millport-pride

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DialSquare · 14/09/2026 23:13

Stinkybooks · 14/09/2026 22:47

@mintbird yes I know that many gay folk are just as captured by the ideology as heterosexual people are. I’ve seen plenty of evidence of that being true. But in truth no actual lesbian would date a so called trans woman. No gay man would date a so called trans man. Because the actual wouldn’t be there. And they have the wrong body parts for the desired activities!

Just like no straight woman is going to date a trans”man”. No straight guy is going to date a trans”woman”.
Ultimately facts are facts.

Agreed. I’m straight and I wouldn’t date a transman due to sexual orientation and I wouldn’t date a Transwomen due to sexual preference.

Stinkybooks · 14/09/2026 22:47

@mintbird yes I know that many gay folk are just as captured by the ideology as heterosexual people are. I’ve seen plenty of evidence of that being true. But in truth no actual lesbian would date a so called trans woman. No gay man would date a so called trans man. Because the actual wouldn’t be there. And they have the wrong body parts for the desired activities!

Just like no straight woman is going to date a trans”man”. No straight guy is going to date a trans”woman”.
Ultimately facts are facts.

ArabellaScott · 14/09/2026 21:44

L, G, B and T people can be gender critical. L G B refers to sexual orientation, and T refers to gender identity.

'Gender critical' means people who are critical of (question) gender, which is to say, stereotypes.

SirChenjins · 14/09/2026 21:40

MintBird · 14/09/2026 21:17

That's an opinion held by the gender critical community, not the LGBT community.

You can see for yourself. Go to any gay bar in the country wearing LGBAlliance attire and give them a gender critical lecture. Let me know how it goes.

You're not honestly suggesting that every gay person in every gay bar in the country believes that TWAW, that there are no GC gay people, that lesbians should not be allowed to have lesbian only spaces, or that lesbians should be required to date men as they would be transphobic if they didn't, are you?

MintBird · 14/09/2026 21:17

Stinkybooks · 14/09/2026 20:38

Trans ideology however IS homophobic. Its aim being in many instances to trans away the gay.

That's an opinion held by the gender critical community, not the LGBT community.

You can see for yourself. Go to any gay bar in the country wearing LGBAlliance attire and give them a gender critical lecture. Let me know how it goes.

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Stinkybooks · 14/09/2026 20:38

Trans ideology however IS homophobic. Its aim being in many instances to trans away the gay.

Stinkybooks · 14/09/2026 20:38

MintBird · 14/09/2026 20:28

Maybe she's missed the point of what pride is about? It's not an invitation for homophobes like that guy who got shot last year or gender criticals to have a "prove me wrong" debate about how sinful homosexuality is or whatever.

People who are gender critical are rarely homophobic so therefore don’t regard homosexuality as a sin.
Being GC is not an opinion in any way about homosexuality anyway. It’s about being critical of gender…..

SirChenjins · 14/09/2026 20:32

MintBird · 14/09/2026 20:28

Maybe she's missed the point of what pride is about? It's not an invitation for homophobes like that guy who got shot last year or gender criticals to have a "prove me wrong" debate about how sinful homosexuality is or whatever.

But it is about banning organisations that uphold the rights of gay people to have their own spaces which don't require them to accept that TWAW (or that TMAM). The TRAs are very big on homosexuality being sinful when it prevents them from invading those spaces that belong to lesbians and gay men who don't want them there.

MintBird · 14/09/2026 20:28

Womensacuriousarticle · 14/09/2026 01:33

It's been all over the local paper's fb pages for weeks and weeks. The organisers have been really rabid in their nonstop promotion of it. But every time anyone points out who and what underlies and drives Pride now on the newspaper's fb page, comments get closed or their specific comment is removed d.

A friend of mine has been banned from umpteen threads about it on the local fb pages. Provided evidence of wrongdoing and wronguns within the movement, asked them to prove her wrong about anything she was saying. Got pelters and insults from every side... and then, of course, when she challenged them to prove her wrong, she got banned. They can not tolerate truth.

She's been inudated with messages from locals supporting and thanking her. They now know a lot more than they did previously, they've had a lot of suspsicions confirmed and they're not happy.

Maybe she's missed the point of what pride is about? It's not an invitation for homophobes like that guy who got shot last year or gender criticals to have a "prove me wrong" debate about how sinful homosexuality is or whatever.

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JHound · 14/09/2026 18:50

I don’t see why I should even have a view on it. If they want to hold a pride event there why would I have an issue with it. I don’t see how it’s forced on anybody.

Arran2024 · 14/09/2026 16:39

Stinkybooks · 14/09/2026 02:10

I’m not gay…. But if I was I would go to/ support a pride event, regardless of location or where I live. Ditto for many friends of mine who are gay.
Given that some pride events no longer happen it’s odd to me to see new locations hosting them.

Some big Pride events were cancelled and so nearby towns saw an opportunity. My town had one forvthe first time. Itcwas a pretty tame affair from what O saw - mostly teenage girls in rainbow colours.

INeedAPensieve · 14/09/2026 16:34

Womensacuriousarticle · 14/09/2026 01:33

It's been all over the local paper's fb pages for weeks and weeks. The organisers have been really rabid in their nonstop promotion of it. But every time anyone points out who and what underlies and drives Pride now on the newspaper's fb page, comments get closed or their specific comment is removed d.

A friend of mine has been banned from umpteen threads about it on the local fb pages. Provided evidence of wrongdoing and wronguns within the movement, asked them to prove her wrong about anything she was saying. Got pelters and insults from every side... and then, of course, when she challenged them to prove her wrong, she got banned. They can not tolerate truth.

She's been inudated with messages from locals supporting and thanking her. They now know a lot more than they did previously, they've had a lot of suspsicions confirmed and they're not happy.

Out of interest @Womensacuriousarticle , are there other photos of the less savoury elements of the parade you mentioned seeing on the day, that are up on the Facebook page? I just think if there's no proof then we unfortunately can't point out the issues and fight for safeguarding as it will be a case of he says she says. For what it's worth I think a pride parade to celebrate gay, lesbian and bisexual men and women is great - but furries and overly sexual fetish/leather gear shouldn't be displayed in front of children during the day. I mean, is leather/fetish sexual activity really something to represent the lesbian, gay community?

My lesbian and gay friends aren't really into that at all, they are just married with their kids getting on with their lives. All the fetish/BDSM folks (and believe me, they like to talk about it, that's why I know) have largely been heterosexual and male. Tbh I'd find it quite insulting seeing these blokes there as if they are part of the parade as it implies that this sort of paraphilic sexual preference is what the gay community is only about. Sorry, I'm probably not articulating myself well. Just my head trying to make sense of it all. Anyway, that sort of stuff shouldn't be paraded in front of kids.

Stinkybooks · 14/09/2026 02:10

I’m not gay…. But if I was I would go to/ support a pride event, regardless of location or where I live. Ditto for many friends of mine who are gay.
Given that some pride events no longer happen it’s odd to me to see new locations hosting them.

Womensacuriousarticle · 14/09/2026 01:47

MintBird · 13/09/2026 00:43

I saw a video of the parade.

There weren't any "puppy masks" or "men in chains" (sorry to disappoint) but there looked like a lot of happy locals waving pride flags- including the progress flag with the chevrons and the trans flag.

The vast majority weren't local.
The organisers had got made specific Millport pride flags given out to everyone, and of course the stolen and adulterated flags that represent nothing at all to do with adult same sex attraction were there in great numbers.

Womensacuriousarticle · 14/09/2026 01:38

greenocklass · 13/09/2026 09:54

Having seen photos and video on local Facebook groups this pretty much sums it up. Didn’t spot any of the nasty fetish/furry folks, just lots of rainbows and an EIS banner. A couple of blokes in wigs. Pride like this is fine, if only it had stayed that way everywhere and didn’t now represent the issues we have seen in recent years more than it’s original intention which means many of us cannot support.

EIS
Fire Brigades Union
GMB
and the (women hating) Unison union

were the ones I saw.

Womensacuriousarticle · 14/09/2026 01:33

greenocklass · 13/09/2026 16:13

Disappointed to hear this - I’m no fan of the TQIA+ movement and clearly the photos shared online are selective. I did see a photo of a preteen with a banner earlier that saddened me - something about “being straight WAS the phase” - why this need to define and parade any sexuality at such a young age?

for what it’s worth there has been very little promotion of this locally that I’ve seen. I’ve only seen it mentioned on Facebook and mumsnet.

It's been all over the local paper's fb pages for weeks and weeks. The organisers have been really rabid in their nonstop promotion of it. But every time anyone points out who and what underlies and drives Pride now on the newspaper's fb page, comments get closed or their specific comment is removed d.

A friend of mine has been banned from umpteen threads about it on the local fb pages. Provided evidence of wrongdoing and wronguns within the movement, asked them to prove her wrong about anything she was saying. Got pelters and insults from every side... and then, of course, when she challenged them to prove her wrong, she got banned. They can not tolerate truth.

She's been inudated with messages from locals supporting and thanking her. They now know a lot more than they did previously, they've had a lot of suspsicions confirmed and they're not happy.

greenocklass · 13/09/2026 16:13

Womensacuriousarticle · 13/09/2026 15:38

Furries were there, So were walking sticks, gigantic men in frocks, rainbow dressed toddlers and young kids, grown men carrying small dogs like babies - and those carrying the front banner were all young teenagers. I couild add more of what I saw but it wouldn't get past the censor.

The amount of oblivious women supporting this is really depressing.

Disappointed to hear this - I’m no fan of the TQIA+ movement and clearly the photos shared online are selective. I did see a photo of a preteen with a banner earlier that saddened me - something about “being straight WAS the phase” - why this need to define and parade any sexuality at such a young age?

for what it’s worth there has been very little promotion of this locally that I’ve seen. I’ve only seen it mentioned on Facebook and mumsnet.

Womensacuriousarticle · 13/09/2026 15:49

ArabellaScott · 13/09/2026 15:39

Any idea how many had travelled to Millport specifically, and how many were locals?

Closely guarded official secret by the organisers I would imagine, but it was clear the vast majority were not locals.

Womensacuriousarticle · 13/09/2026 15:42

ArabellaScott · 12/09/2026 10:36

The Drop In Centre, College Street
Pop by between 12.30pm-4pm
Young Adults 12-25 years
NAC Activity led Safe Inclusion Zone

12 to 25 is an odd age range. What 25 year old wants to hang out with 12 year olds?

As Ricky Gervais said, you don't hear a lot of gay 16 year olds calling for a lowering of the age of consetn. You only hear it from a certain kind of grown man...

ArabellaScott · 13/09/2026 15:39

Any idea how many had travelled to Millport specifically, and how many were locals?

Womensacuriousarticle · 13/09/2026 15:38

greenocklass · 13/09/2026 09:54

Having seen photos and video on local Facebook groups this pretty much sums it up. Didn’t spot any of the nasty fetish/furry folks, just lots of rainbows and an EIS banner. A couple of blokes in wigs. Pride like this is fine, if only it had stayed that way everywhere and didn’t now represent the issues we have seen in recent years more than it’s original intention which means many of us cannot support.

Furries were there, So were walking sticks, gigantic men in frocks, rainbow dressed toddlers and young kids, grown men carrying small dogs like babies - and those carrying the front banner were all young teenagers. I couild add more of what I saw but it wouldn't get past the censor.

The amount of oblivious women supporting this is really depressing.

Womensacuriousarticle · 13/09/2026 15:32

UnaGatita · 13/09/2026 05:58

When did a 12 year old become a young adult?

NAC youth workers promote LGBTQ Youth Scotland, a well dodgy group. Leader in jail for being in Scotland's biggest ever peadophile ring.

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/scotland/article/boy-15-groomed-sex-lgbt-youth-scotland-nhrmgss9c

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/oct/29/courts-abuse-paedophile-ring-scotland

https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-thin-pink-line/

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https://www.thetimes.com/uk/scotland/article/boy-15-groomed-sex-lgbt-youth-scotland-nhrmgss9c

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DialSquare · 13/09/2026 11:02

ArabellaScott · 13/09/2026 11:00

'Looked like a lot of happy locals'

How can you tell?

They identified as locals.

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