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Rape charity turns down funding from anti-immigrant donors

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IwantToRetire · 18/08/2026 19:01

Glasgow and Clyde centre says it cannot accept £380 ‘in good conscience’ from group whose supporters link sexual violence to nationality

The centre said it needed to “maintain the trust of everyone who turns to us” and that it could not accept the funding, understood to be £380, “in good conscience”.

Full article https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/08/18/glasgow-rape-charity-refuse-funding-anti-immigrant-donors/

And at https://archive.is/zuDlW

Glasgow and Clyde Rape Crisis is one of the groups that stopped working with Rape Crisis Scotland and formed an alliance with other RCC providing single sex services.
https://www.glasgowclyderapecrisis.org.uk/news/alliance-to-combat-rise-in-sexual-violence-against-women-and-girls/

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Persephonia1966 · 19/08/2026 14:45

OtterlyAstounding · 19/08/2026 12:30

Oh, I absolutely agree it's not the place of the charity to hold views on that kind of thing. But I think that refusing donations kind of seems like them stating their views on the issue too? Unless they also have refused donations from any organisations that are pro-asylum seekers?

Although I can understand their thinking, and practically speaking, depending on what their usual supporters think, it might be for the best when it comes to optics and assuring future donations.

It's not really them stating their views though. They would have been if they had made a public announcement they were turning down the funding because they disagreed with the views of the donors. They didn't do that. They privately and politely explained they couldn't accept the donation.
It was the other party who made it into a big political thing with they post on X. I understand maybe they had to tell people who had given money on the expectation that it would go to the charity that it wouldn't. But a neutral statement would have done that. Instead they made it about them being politically discriminated against. The charity has remained as neutral as possible throughout.

Ponderingwindow · 19/08/2026 13:25

Staying neutral is difficult. Every decision is a stance, even if the goal is to avoid politicization.

In a case like this, some of their clients may be from the immigrant groups targeted by the potential donor. I think that makes it an easy decision. Those potential clients comfort receiving services is more important.

DeeperShadeofRed · 19/08/2026 13:24

Too many charities have become platforms for moral laundering. Nice to see some taking a stand on this stuff for once.

DeeperShadeofRed · 19/08/2026 13:22

Manxexile · 19/08/2026 01:02

Some things:

1 Does this mean charities should not accept donations from any political (or non-political for that matter) groups (or individuals), or only those that someone thinks have views that are "unacceptable"?

2 Does the Charities Commission allow charities to refuse donations on "political" grounds if the charity is non-political itself?

3 (a) I have no idea (I don't do Faceache /Twitter/X etc social media bollocks) what the aims or views of the Scottish Citizens Army are beyond what the Telegraph article says - ie they are "a proud supporter of strong immigration laws, community safety, and putting local people first"

I'm in favour of all those myself.

Why wouldn't GRCS also be in favour of those? (GRCS can still carry out its primary aim of supporting female rape victims whether they are local scottish women or immigrants - legal or illegal)

(b) I wonder if there might be a significant number of Mumsnet members who sincerely believe that uncontrolled immigration into the UK of young males (ie immigrants) from countries and cultures where women are more likely to be disrespected and to be subject to routine domestic abuse and sexual violence (including rape) than they are in the UK might be something that needs some thought given to?

What about this: Article on the threat to UK women from Afghan immigrants | Mumsnet

My own view is that charities should accept whatever donations they are given.

But if donors want to make a point out of the fact that a particular charity has accepted their donation, then the charity should be free to say that they only accepted the donation in good faith and that they do not endorse the views of the donor.

Why is this so difficult?

Charities need what they can get to fulfill their charitable aims

They don't need people virtue signalling that they don't like this donation because we think its "racist"

Edited

Firstly, a lot of charity work involves direct public affairs/ policy making. Accepting donations from 'anyone' could muddy the waters from a public perspective and open the charity up to accusations of bribery etc.

A clear and transparent donation policy, alongside proper due diligence often means that donations from 'questionable' sources are avoided before they're even made. But like this donation, sometimes a charity isn't aware until they've receievd the money and there absolutely should be a way to refuse that money if trustees feel it is not in alignment with their core principles.

Hedgehogforshort · 19/08/2026 13:21

ArabellaScott · 19/08/2026 13:19

I'd bloody love a substantial amount of Monet. 😁

I know, my typing is terrible and my keyboard is about knackered due to joining this board lol

ArabellaScott · 19/08/2026 13:19

I'd bloody love a substantial amount of Monet. 😁

Hedgehogforshort · 19/08/2026 13:09

It is ridiculous to suggest that the vast majority of small charities would be questioning individuals personal political points of view.

Charities must be careful not to align in any way shape or form with groups and organisations with ANY type of political agenda.

Groups with a more philanthropic, or philosophical points of view, such as a religious group, are fine.

My agency received a substantial amount of Monet three years in a row via a solicitor. I could not get to the bottom of who this donor was.

So i had to check with the Charity Commission.

It was deemed fine because of the arms length nature of the funding.

I was given to understand from someone at a later date, that the donor was a surprisingly high profile individual. Who randomly would fund charities they took an interest in, always small charities and always for three years.

BackToLurk · 19/08/2026 12:46

Someone should tell SCA that you can donate to charity both privately and anonymously, without trying to get any publicity from it.

GC5 · 19/08/2026 12:43

Good for them. Not only would it lower trust for some service users, the anti-immigration groups don’t genuinely give a shit about women and girls - look at the high levels of DA by their own supporters, the fact that Tommy Robinson nearly derailed a grooming trial, how so many extreme right wingers actually want to remove rights which survivors rely on like the HRA.

They only claim to care about VAWG as a way to pretend they have a legitimate concern and bring women into the fold. Opportunistic nonsense.

PriOn1 · 19/08/2026 12:38

None of the users of this service would have known who SCA were or the presumably myriad views of their followers if GCRC hadn't refused their donation.

There is no way of knowing if this is correct as it didn’t happen. They may have found themselves being smeared either way.

ArabellaScott · 19/08/2026 12:38

To me, it looks like the SCA are trying to make political capital out of an organisation that supports women.

ArabellaScott · 19/08/2026 12:37

'In a post on X, the SCA posted a screenshot of the rejection email dated Aug 14.

Members of the SCA had visited the charity to drop off hygiene kits for rape survivors, which were initially accepted by staff at the site.

But the email from the GCRC read: “Following your visit, some of our staff raised concerns regarding the political nature and public positions associated with your group.

“While we appreciate the hygiene kits you supplied and the time and effort taken to visit us, we are unable to accept fundraising activities undertaken on our behalf by organisations that campaign on issues relating to immigration or other political matters.

“To protect our independence and ensure that all survivors feel welcome, safe and supported, we do not enter into associations that could be perceived as endorsing particular political viewpoints. We must therefore respectfully decline your offer of fundraising support.”

In an accompanying statement on X, the SCA said: “We are furious. Disgusted. Glasgow Live and Glasgow & Clyde Rape Crisis have twisted the truth and smeared a community group that simply tried to help rape survivors.
“Staff accepted our women’s essential hygiene kits on the day. Hours later they rejected any further fundraising purely because of our positions on immigration and community safety. Politics over survivors.”'

So it looks like it was the SCA who donated kits, the GRCC emailed to say they couldn't accept donations from organisations that campaign on political matters, then SCA took to social media to say how 'furious' and 'disgusted' they were. GRCC then made a statement.

Persephonia1966 · 19/08/2026 12:33

dolorsit · 19/08/2026 12:31

It looks like they ran a specific fund raising campaign for the centre. If the donation was refused they have to let the people who donated to campaign so the donors can decide whether to request a refund or permit the donation to be used for something else.

I’m not sure how they could do this without publicly announcing it.

Hmm. That's true but I just read the post and it is... Illuminating.

Persephonia1966 · 19/08/2026 12:32

Ginnyweasleyswand · 19/08/2026 12:25

Because if one political group are discriminated against when others aren't it's bad?

But this centre already seperated itself from other rape crisis centres due to it's wish to continue with single sex services. They have already seen the consequences of political capture and how messy they can get.

You also don't know if they have "discriminated" (interesting use of words) against other political groups. We only know about this because the group themselves went to social media to talk about their feelings (disgusted) because their offer was turned down. Rape crisis centres have the right to centre women who are victims of rape. And that includes the right to "discriminate against trans people" by not catering to biological men. It also includes the right to turn down funding or donations from political groups whose main focus is outside of the very narrow focus if the rape crisis centre.

The group can still campaign, post on social media, raise funds for themselves. Their existence is not being threatened by the fact a women's group doesn't want to align with them. Horseshoe theory in action.

dolorsit · 19/08/2026 12:31

Persephonia1966 · 19/08/2026 12:09

I also would be very interested in the answer to this.

If it's the rape crisis centre themselves that ran to the papers I would question their decision. Although for lots of reasons that seems unlikely.
If it was someone from the group from whom the donation was refused then why do that? Presumably for more publicity but then it puts into question how genuinely altruistic they were with their initial offer. It would seem to be an attempt to make themselves the victims (bearing in mind this is a rape crisis centre!) and get attention by creating a dog pile on a women's charity. I don't like that and I wouldn't like it if it was a left wing or pro-immigrant or anti-racist or pro- trans group doing it either.

It looks like they ran a specific fund raising campaign for the centre. If the donation was refused they have to let the people who donated to campaign so the donors can decide whether to request a refund or permit the donation to be used for something else.

I’m not sure how they could do this without publicly announcing it.

OtterlyAstounding · 19/08/2026 12:30

Persephonia1966 · 19/08/2026 12:02

Well maybe there is a case to be made there. But then that case should be made separate to the sharp end of providing services to the victims of rape. They are different things. In the same way if a pro-immigration group were providing funding to a rape crisis centre one might worry that it might concern women raped by immigrants etc that they would be policed in how they talked about their trauma

I think Mhira Whadals appointment had a real impact on how trusted that rape crisis charity could be to deal with how women talked about their experiences. Tjey were told to "reframe your trauma". Unacceptable - as soon as a rape crisis centre starts taking positions on other political issues you run the risk that the centre aim of the charity is misdirected. And again, it can be argued women's experiences with sexual violence were used as a cover to further political aims. Even if the donors in this case had pure intentions I can completely understand why the charity would be cautions..once bitten twice shy.

Oh, I absolutely agree it's not the place of the charity to hold views on that kind of thing. But I think that refusing donations kind of seems like them stating their views on the issue too? Unless they also have refused donations from any organisations that are pro-asylum seekers?

Although I can understand their thinking, and practically speaking, depending on what their usual supporters think, it might be for the best when it comes to optics and assuring future donations.

PriOn1 · 19/08/2026 12:30

ArabellaScott · 19/08/2026 10:11

So one thing I would question is who has raised this issue and why is it in the papers/

This was my first thought too. This is something of a non-event, yet someone has pushed it into the press. I find myself wondering whether they would have been smeared either way.

I’m sadly cynical these days, especially where women are making a stand for women’s rights. Look at all the aggravation KJK receives because she lets anyone speak and has been linked to literal Nazis, because they paraded beside her.

I suspect that, whatever they did, they couldn’t win.

ArabellaScott · 19/08/2026 12:28

SCA claim not to be political, but I am not sure that it's possible to campaign on political issues without being political.

Ginnyweasleyswand · 19/08/2026 12:25

Persephonia1966 · 19/08/2026 12:15

Me neither. They also wouldn't know if you were or not so it seems irrelevant, unless you labelled the donation "I am giving this as a Reform voter/Labour voter". But why on earth would that be even relevant to a donation re rape.
This wasn't individuals. This was a specific group of people with (apparently) a political.slant. Which is fine, but that's different to an individual giving money and charities have a right to exercise discretion in whether they accept money from groups not individuals. Given the group then (apparently) went to the papers to complain suggests the charities instincts were correct.

If you aren't even a member of Reform then why would it be a concern that one can't donate to the charity? It feels like an extrapolation from the actual issue anyway.

Because if one political group are discriminated against when others aren't it's bad?

Persephonia1966 · 19/08/2026 12:25

Shedmistress · 19/08/2026 12:17

People get accused all the time of 'aligning with the far right' and when a group who wants to remain completely nautral refuses a donation they get castigated for it.

Women's groups cannot do anything right can they?

They can do right easily
They just need to be better at always centring men and the concerns of men. Then they would be OK. Unfortunately this rape crisis centre has failed to do this TWICE now. Hence the tantrums.

(Maybe there are women in the SCA. But a quick look at their social media suggests it is quite male dominated)

ArabellaScott · 19/08/2026 12:21

I mean, the SCA have turned down support from people who didn't match their values:

'Scottish Citizens Army postpones Parkhead demonstration

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A demonstration was planned for 29 July at 6pm in Parkhead, meeting at the Whiterose Hall.
It has since been shared and promoted by people and groups whose involvement does not match our aims and values.
To protect the integrity and reputation of the SCA, and to keep full control of our message, we have decided to postpone this event.
We will be planning this for a different date.
Sorry for any disruption this has caused.
This is a careful and deliberate choice.'

(Facebook, 27th July).

Shedmistress · 19/08/2026 12:17

People get accused all the time of 'aligning with the far right' and when a group who wants to remain completely nautral refuses a donation they get castigated for it.

Women's groups cannot do anything right can they?

Persephonia1966 · 19/08/2026 12:15

Ginnyweasleyswand · 19/08/2026 12:11

Well I'm not a member of a political party, so it wouldn't help much.

Me neither. They also wouldn't know if you were or not so it seems irrelevant, unless you labelled the donation "I am giving this as a Reform voter/Labour voter". But why on earth would that be even relevant to a donation re rape.
This wasn't individuals. This was a specific group of people with (apparently) a political.slant. Which is fine, but that's different to an individual giving money and charities have a right to exercise discretion in whether they accept money from groups not individuals. Given the group then (apparently) went to the papers to complain suggests the charities instincts were correct.

If you aren't even a member of Reform then why would it be a concern that one can't donate to the charity? It feels like an extrapolation from the actual issue anyway.

ArabellaScott · 19/08/2026 12:12

Ginnyweasleyswand · 19/08/2026 11:40

It's impossible to know if this was a good decision or not based on the info available, in my opinion.

I find it suspicious that the 'messaging' and 'comments' that is cited is not reproduced - there is no evidence, we're supposed to accept this as true (just as we've been expected formerly to accept men are women etc). That suggests to me a judgement has been made that may not be warranted or hold up to scrutiny. The anger from SCA suggests it may well have been either an individual comment from someone giving a donation, not their position as an organisation or misrepresented.

What if one of the people donating who made a 'comment' that they didn't like is a victim of rape? Are they likely to feel they would be welcomed at GCRC now?

Far better to have a blanket policy that they can demonstrate applies to all e.g. either they accept donations from any organisation with political views (with a clear statement this doesn't mean endorsement) or they don't. I don't think GCRC have done this. I also don't think, for the record, it's clear that SCA are a political organisation, certainly not primarily. Every individual has political views so it's a slippery slope.

Far better to have a blanket policy that they can demonstrate applies to all e.g. either they accept donations from any organisation with political views (with a clear statement this doesn't mean endorsement) or they don't.

They may well have such a policy, it just may not be public.

Ginnyweasleyswand · 19/08/2026 12:11

Persephonia1966 · 19/08/2026 12:10

Why don't you try and report back?

Well I'm not a member of a political party, so it wouldn't help much.

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