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Women’s rights to same-sex health care

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IwantToRetire · 17/08/2026 19:26

In an era of patient-centred care and growing concern over misconduct in medical settings, why do women still lack the right to choose women consultants for examination and treatment?

Equality legislation has resulted in significant improvements in the workplace for women, both in terms of pay and career paths albeit with some way still to go. It is startling, however, just how primitive our society remains in respect of the treatment of women in other areas of their lives. This article addresses one of these areas – medical care, specifically the right for women to elect examinations and care by women medical practitioners.

Full article https://www.counselmagazine.co.uk/articles/women-s-rights-to-same-sex-health-care
(The author wishes to acknowledge the contribution of his late wife and his daughter whose thoughts and experience gave rise to this article.)

Came across this by chance in Counsel Magazine:
Founded in 1985, COUNSEL is the official monthly Magazine of the Bar of England and Wales, published by LexisNexis on behalf of the Bar Council. COUNSEL is largely written by and for barristers.
https://www.counselmagazine.co.uk/about-us

Women’s rights to same-sex health care

In an era of patient-centred care and growing concern over misconduct in medical settings, why do women still lack the right to choose women consultants for examination and treatment? Charles Davey investigates

https://www.counselmagazine.co.uk/articles/women-s-rights-to-same-sex-health-care

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BettyFilous · 21/09/2026 07:16

JanesLittleGirl · 20/09/2026 22:45

I know that it is very late at night but I am really struggling with the point that you are trying to make. Would you care to have another go?

I read this as a “men need single sex services too”, possibly to try to undermine the thrust of this thread. To which most FWR posters would say “of course! The Equality Act 2010 protected characteristic of sex covers both men and women in circumstances where they need single sex provision” and none of us have an issue with that, provided it is a proportionate act.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/09/2026 07:57

JanesLittleGirl · 20/09/2026 22:45

I know that it is very late at night but I am really struggling with the point that you are trying to make. Would you care to have another go?

Isn't it one of the numerous delusional claims made by extreme transactivists? That if you think women are entitled to single sex hospital wards then you're demanding no male doctors, porters, nurses, visitors etc?

The sound you hear is the bottom of a barrel being scraped 😄

JanesLittleGirl · 21/09/2026 11:01

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/09/2026 07:57

Isn't it one of the numerous delusional claims made by extreme transactivists? That if you think women are entitled to single sex hospital wards then you're demanding no male doctors, porters, nurses, visitors etc?

The sound you hear is the bottom of a barrel being scraped 😄

Ah thank you. So a rather pathetic attempt at a reductio ad absurdum argument but without the details that would actually make it clear what is being argued.

It's a bit like watching a number 11 batter walking out to the crease needing 60 runs to win with 5 balls remaining. They know that they've lost but they have to pretend that they're still in the game.

BackToLurk · 21/09/2026 11:06

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/09/2026 07:57

Isn't it one of the numerous delusional claims made by extreme transactivists? That if you think women are entitled to single sex hospital wards then you're demanding no male doctors, porters, nurses, visitors etc?

The sound you hear is the bottom of a barrel being scraped 😄

See also 'no male cleaners in public toilets'.

ChequerToRed · 21/09/2026 11:14

alcovecupboards · 20/09/2026 20:08

It's not quite as simple as it should be. To have a truly single sex ward would require all males to be banned from the female ward, and likewise females from the male ward. In theory I support this - but I'm not sure how it would be able to make it work without a wholesale change of recruitment from the NHS. When my son had an issue at 14 I had to quite forcefully demand an appointment with a male GP but it wasn't taken particularly seriously by the receptionist. There needs to be proper reform to make this happen.

Your comments are of neither use nor ornament, go and fifth column somewhere else.

Charlesdavey · 23/09/2026 00:55

In terms of the law, as I state in the article, there are regulations introduced by the coalition government in 2014 requiring medical staff to take account of patient preferences including as to same sex care, but they are being ignored. I persuaded the British Medical Union which represent doctors to change their publication "Core Ethics Guidance" to make reference to these regulations, but the General Medical Council has so far refused to change its guidance on intimate examinations. The Care Quality Commission has produced guidance on the regulations but has failed to engage with the medical or nursing professions about the enforcement of the regulations. Has anyone ever seen a poster in a hospital telling women that they have a right to same sex care? The government needs for force the medical and nursing professions to change their codes, and publicise this right and strengthen this right.
The NHS is short of nurses and so wants to encourage more men into nursing. Fine by me. There are plenty of men who need nursing care. When my daughter was 12 or 13, only just young enough for my wife to have a right to stay in hospital with her she made it known to the nursing staff that my daughter only wanted showered by female nurses. Whilst my daughter was still a little groggy from anaesthetic and whilst my wife was momentarily away, a male nurse came into her room insisting that he was (alone) going to shower my daughter. He even told her that he became a nurse so he could see young girls naked. My wife arrived back in time and sent him packing.
It is important to remember that the medical and nursing profession attract some wonderful human beings, but that they also attract those who want to abuse or hurt others. The profession gives them both the opportunity and the cloak of respectability. It is essential to have some redlines to protect patients such as single sex wards and same sex care. These can never guarantee safety, but they are a start.
As to the report on rapes in hospitals, those attacked are not just patients, but also medical staff and visitors. Those committing these crimes are not just medics, but patients, visitors, contractors. Hospitals should be able to control access to patients, in a similar way to how schools protect pupils, such as controlled access to wards and more CCTV.

IwantToRetire · 23/09/2026 01:32

Whilst my daughter was still a little groggy from anaesthetic and whilst my wife was momentarily away, a male nurse came into her room insisting that he was (alone) going to shower my daughter. He even told her that he became a nurse so he could see young girls naked. My wife arrived back in time and sent him packing.

This is just so shocking. How terrifying for your daughter and wife.

Its a bit late now, but I will come back and read your response again tomorrow.

Just felt I had to respond to this personal experience.

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unwashedanddazed · 23/09/2026 01:40

"Has anyone ever seen a poster in a hospital telling women that they have a right to same sex care?"

I'm pleased to say I have. I had surgery on my throat about two years ago at Bristol Royal Infirmary and in the corridor of the ward I was on was a very prominent poster stating that same-sex care was available to all patients who required it. It felt very encouraging to see it.

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