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terrifying, dangerous, abusive "advice" on r/transgenderuk

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mardirousse · 16/08/2026 20:38

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1vo4oqz/hypothetical_situation/.

Dad wants to prevent his effeminate 15 year old boy from developing an adam's apple or deep voice, so "hypothetically" asks if he could back and forth to France for puberty blockers.

gets loads of "support", told he's a wonderful father, advised to put the lad on diy estrogen instead as it's more appropriate "at that age" (15!).

Surely platforms can't allow this, legally! it's so dangerous. I'm really upset. His poor little lad.

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Icelandicnights · 17/08/2026 09:07

Imdunfer · 17/08/2026 09:02

The problem with the suicide argument, of course, is that the latest Finnish research of long term outcomes shows the suicide rates increasing hugely after medical transition compared with those who did not go ahead with medical transition.

False.
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/fact-check-new-finnish-study-does

Fact Check: New Finnish "Study" Does Not Prove "Trans Youth Care Leads To Worse Outcomes"

The latest Kaltiala study is filled with fatal methodological flaws, and does not support claims made about trans youth care lacking efficacy.

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/fact-check-new-finnish-study-does

Shedmistress · 17/08/2026 09:04

Icelandicnights · 17/08/2026 09:02

Just to be clear, you want to make unqualified 'medical' opinions rigueur du jour?

What next face book 'neuroscience'?

By this you mean WPATH's admittance that their whole schtick is literally 'opinions'?

Which evidence is lacking exactly, these drugs do exactly what they say on the tin, they block puberty leaving basically underdeveloped bodies and minds with a consentual age on their paperwork?

Icelandicnights · 17/08/2026 09:04

FlirtsWithRhinos · 17/08/2026 09:02

Ah, I see the "Look what you made me do" brigade are out in force already.

From the same "they'll do it anyway so you might as well legalise it" school of thought that brought you trafficked women in German megabrothels.

I assume they think the UK should also legalise and support FGM because otherwise the poor abusive parents who genuinely believe they are doing the right thing for their girls will be forced to use backstreet or overseas cutters.

Oh yeah that's exactly the same as asking for doctors supervision…

Imdunfer · 17/08/2026 09:02

The problem with the suicide argument, of course, is that the latest Finnish research of long term outcomes shows the suicide rates increasing hugely after medical transition compared with those who did not go ahead with medical transition.

Icelandicnights · 17/08/2026 09:02

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Just to be clear, you want to make unqualified 'medical' opinions rigueur du jour?

What next face book 'neuroscience'?

FlirtsWithRhinos · 17/08/2026 09:02

Ah, I see the "Look what you made me do" brigade are out in force already.

From the same "they'll do it anyway so you might as well legalise it" school of thought that brought you trafficked women in German megabrothels.

I assume they think the UK should also legalise and support FGM because otherwise the poor abusive parents who genuinely believe they are doing the right thing for their girls will be forced to use backstreet or overseas cutters.

helderste · 17/08/2026 09:00

Datun · 17/08/2026 08:50

Ugh grown men on this thread advocating for children to reach adulthood chronologically, and legally, but still have the genitalia, and mind, of a child.

Unfortunately for you, the entire infrastructure you rely on is collapsing, including WPATH. And the world is watching.

Ugh grown men on this thread advocating for children to reach adulthood chronologically, and legally, but still have the genitalia, and mind, of a child

They’re creepy af and make my skin crawl, constantly whinging about the existence of safeguarding 🙄🤮

Imdunfer · 17/08/2026 08:59

FlirtsWithRhinos · 17/08/2026 08:47

They don't want them cured.

Confused kids resolving their confusion by recognising they simply are the sex they always have been, their personality is and always was fine for their sex and that's ok just to be who they are is the last thing they want.

They want them locked in to transitioning in ways that make them visibily and irreversibly different to other people of their birth sex so the "fact" of trans people has to be socially and legally accomodated.

Then they can leverage that beachhead to force social and legal acceptance for their own "needs" (which in reality are simply their desires and preferences) despite being basically intact adult men with at most some superficial cosmetic changes.

It is so so cynical.

I'm afraid it's becoming pretty clear that the trans policy is to increase numbers to increase their social leverage.

Then in the US now we have involvement of major medical fraud. That needs a thread of it's own. Children turned into lifelong cash cows for the doctors.

Icelandicnights · 17/08/2026 08:59

nutmeg7 · 17/08/2026 08:55

There is no “regulated” industry as it is all unevidenced.

You don't want the evidence remember? Attempting to block Cass makes that clear.

Shedmistress · 17/08/2026 08:56

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nutmeg7 · 17/08/2026 08:55

Icelandicnights · 17/08/2026 08:52

And the unregulated industry is growing as a consequence thanks to the anti trans movement.

There is no “regulated” industry as it is all unevidenced.

Icelandicnights · 17/08/2026 08:52

Datun · 17/08/2026 08:50

Ugh grown men on this thread advocating for children to reach adulthood chronologically, and legally, but still have the genitalia, and mind, of a child.

Unfortunately for you, the entire infrastructure you rely on is collapsing, including WPATH. And the world is watching.

And the unregulated industry is growing as a consequence thanks to the anti trans movement.

Datun · 17/08/2026 08:50

Ugh grown men on this thread advocating for children to reach adulthood chronologically, and legally, but still have the genitalia, and mind, of a child.

Unfortunately for you, the entire infrastructure you rely on is collapsing, including WPATH. And the world is watching.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 17/08/2026 08:47

Imdunfer · 17/08/2026 08:21

What a bizarre world trans people live in where the treatment they demand for gender dysphoria blocks the very process that in the majority of children cures the gender dysphoria.

They don't want them cured.

Confused kids resolving their confusion by recognising they simply are the sex they always have been, their personality is and always was fine for their sex and that's ok just to be who they are is the last thing they want.

They want them locked in to transitioning in ways that make them visibily and irreversibly different to other people of their birth sex so the "fact" of trans people has to be socially and legally accomodated.

Then they can leverage that beachhead to force social and legal acceptance for their own "needs" (which in reality are simply their desires and preferences) despite being basically intact adult men with at most some superficial cosmetic changes.

It is so so cynical.

Shedmistress · 17/08/2026 08:38

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 16/08/2026 23:13

It has absolutely nothing to do with you. His child is trans, and he's trying to help her access care which would pause puberty, giving her time to grow up and decide if she wants to proceed with transition.

I wouldn't condone him doing it without medical supervision, because not every trans kid is suitable. They aren't handed out like Smarties at gender clinics.

Puberty blockers have been used for decades on cis children experiencing precocious puberty - and they're still being given now. It's a proven medication.

Leave the poor family alone, and maybe reflect on the damage done to trans children by anti-trans activism. This dad is trying to save his child's life because she's been denied even the basics of care here. Trans kids don't even get proper counselling despite being in deep distress and suffering horrendous bullying.

There are kids dying all over the world, why not try saving them instead? This one has a parent who loves them. Even if he doesn't succeed, that child has a massively increased chance of making it to adulthood because she knows her dad loves her.

Just to be clear, you advocate for parents to be able to get drugs just to stop a boy from getting a deeper voice?

Imdunfer · 17/08/2026 08:21

What a bizarre world trans people live in where the treatment they demand for gender dysphoria blocks the very process that in the majority of children cures the gender dysphoria.

Thatcannotberight · 17/08/2026 08:18

Bobbymoore123 · 17/08/2026 08:03

It would be much safer if this could be done by a doctor, unfortunately the wire coat hanger solution is the only one left.

It would be much safer to not fuck about with the boy's normal puberty with his natural male hormones.

Your vile comparison admits how dangerous what they are planning to do is.

Imdunfer · 17/08/2026 08:18

Icelandicnights · 17/08/2026 07:47

Same thing happening in the US with abortion medication. Laws that prevent regulated access beget unregulated access.

Who is ultimately responsible is the anti trans movement.

Can you people sink any lower?

Raspbellies · 17/08/2026 08:15

transparent "Puberty blockers have been used for decades on cis children experiencing precocious puberty - and they're still being given now. It's a proven medication"

How many times does it need to be pointed out that puberty blockers are STOPPED when the child reaches an appropriate age for puberty (11/12). They aren't on them in their teens as it will damage their health. All bodies need the hormonal surge of puberty to develop bone and brain development.

Bobbymoore123 · 17/08/2026 08:03

Thatcannotberight · 17/08/2026 07:39

Surely, if there are NO signs of natural puberty at 15 you'd be going to a doctor to ask for tests about delayed puberty, in case there is a medical problem.

DS (14) has suddenly got a voice I can't distinguish from his much older brother, grown several inches taller than his father, and got a moustache. All his friends at school are similar.

DIY hormones sounds incredibly dangerous if you don't know the boy's base levels. Or if there are complications already.

It would be much safer if this could be done by a doctor, unfortunately the wire coat hanger solution is the only one left.

Howlerhog · 17/08/2026 08:02

NotBadConsidering · 17/08/2026 05:22

It has absolutely nothing to do with you

Yes, part of trans ideology is to ignore child safeguarding. Thank you for making it clear.

Yup. They keep throwing in the ‘suicide’ myth (totally disproven) to make giving their child harmful, permanently damaging drugs for what is usually a temporary condition. THATs what’s abuse.

I really hope these kids sue their parents asses later on in life for the harm they have done, I really do!

Icelandicnights · 17/08/2026 07:47

mardirousse · 16/08/2026 20:38

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1vo4oqz/hypothetical_situation/.

Dad wants to prevent his effeminate 15 year old boy from developing an adam's apple or deep voice, so "hypothetically" asks if he could back and forth to France for puberty blockers.

gets loads of "support", told he's a wonderful father, advised to put the lad on diy estrogen instead as it's more appropriate "at that age" (15!).

Surely platforms can't allow this, legally! it's so dangerous. I'm really upset. His poor little lad.

Same thing happening in the US with abortion medication. Laws that prevent regulated access beget unregulated access.

Who is ultimately responsible is the anti trans movement.

Thatcannotberight · 17/08/2026 07:39

Surely, if there are NO signs of natural puberty at 15 you'd be going to a doctor to ask for tests about delayed puberty, in case there is a medical problem.

DS (14) has suddenly got a voice I can't distinguish from his much older brother, grown several inches taller than his father, and got a moustache. All his friends at school are similar.

DIY hormones sounds incredibly dangerous if you don't know the boy's base levels. Or if there are complications already.

curious79 · 17/08/2026 05:26

He needs to very quickly look up some of the interviews with Dr Az Hakeem, one of the UK only fully medically qualified specialists in this area. Not least of all because his unquestioning support of his child is taking him down a physical route that will be impossible to come back from. Dr H advices when you’re in this situation to encourage the child to introspect more and to ask things like what led you thinking about yourself, that you’re not a boy. But broadly not to unquestioningly support them.

NotBadConsidering · 17/08/2026 05:22

It has absolutely nothing to do with you

Yes, part of trans ideology is to ignore child safeguarding. Thank you for making it clear.

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