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terrifying, dangerous, abusive "advice" on r/transgenderuk

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mardirousse · 16/08/2026 20:38

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1vo4oqz/hypothetical_situation/.

Dad wants to prevent his effeminate 15 year old boy from developing an adam's apple or deep voice, so "hypothetically" asks if he could back and forth to France for puberty blockers.

gets loads of "support", told he's a wonderful father, advised to put the lad on diy estrogen instead as it's more appropriate "at that age" (15!).

Surely platforms can't allow this, legally! it's so dangerous. I'm really upset. His poor little lad.

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FlirtsWithRhinos · 17/08/2026 09:28

NotBadConsidering · 17/08/2026 09:26

Chase Strangio admitted in the Supreme Court of the United States that the suicide trope was false.

U.S. v. Skrmetti, if anyone wants to look it up.

ColorMeSurprised · 17/08/2026 09:28

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Imdunfer · 17/08/2026 09:27

Icelandicnights · 17/08/2026 09:23

What study on suicide rates?

Since the trans lobby shut down every attempt to do this kind of research you'll find it difficult to find one.

There is certainly a much higher suicide rate amongst trans people than the population in general, and since people who don't transition sit in that latter population, it's a reasonable assumption, in the absence of better data that the trans lobby don't want, that suicide rates rise after transition.

How about you campaign to get the data that proves that to be incorrect?

Icelandicnights · 17/08/2026 09:26

NotBadConsidering · 17/08/2026 09:25

Very first paragraph contains lies:

Riittakerttu Kaltiala, a Finnish psychiatrist with extensive ties to at least one anti-LGBTQ+ hate group and a history of anti-trans political advocacy.

And it’s all downhill from there.

Which matches his MO. He’s a cross dresser who needs “trans kids” to exist to validate that.

So you are unable to show exactly what part is false & explain why with supporting evidence? Gotcha.

NotBadConsidering · 17/08/2026 09:26

Icelandicnights · 17/08/2026 09:24

So no court case then?

Glad we cleared your disinformation up.

Chase Strangio admitted in the Supreme Court of the United States that the suicide trope was false.

BackToLurk · 17/08/2026 09:25

The father on that thread writes.

At almost-15 she is very feminine but doing nothing

No one, as far as I can see, checks whether this is a child who has any kind of diagnosis of gender dysphoria or has had any prior treatment (including therapy). They don’t, (in general, from memory maybe one did) talk about blood tests or the general health of the child. They just take, at face value, that this ‘feminine’ boy needs hormones - and remember, that wasn’t even what the father was exploring.

Then the supporters of this come here, and again demonstrate no concern for the wider mental and physical health of this child. It’s just a given. “The feminine boy must take female hormones “.

They are truly appalling people. Every one of them.

NotBadConsidering · 17/08/2026 09:25

Icelandicnights · 17/08/2026 09:18

Shooting the messenger?

Please quote what part of the piece that is false. And no, the writer's private life doesn't invalidate facts.

Very first paragraph contains lies:

Riittakerttu Kaltiala, a Finnish psychiatrist with extensive ties to at least one anti-LGBTQ+ hate group and a history of anti-trans political advocacy.

And it’s all downhill from there.

Which matches his MO. He’s a cross dresser who needs “trans kids” to exist to validate that.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 17/08/2026 09:24

Can anyone link to figures that show overall suicide rates for young people in a country before and after puberty blockers begin to be used in that country?

If it's a fact that many trans kids will be driven to suicide if puberty is not blocked, regardless of the existence or not of studies at the individual level, this must surely be reflected in lower suicide rates at the overall population level before and after blockers were introduced.

Anyone?

Icelandicnights · 17/08/2026 09:24

Shedmistress · 17/08/2026 09:22

You do know that instead of being on here all the time trying to get more kids who never develop adult bodies but have paperwork saying they are of the age of consent, you could just go follow a few court cases and see what is actually going on in the place we call 'reality'?

So no court case then?

Glad we cleared your disinformation up.

Icelandicnights · 17/08/2026 09:23

Imdunfer · 17/08/2026 09:16

I'm grateful for the update and hope that trans activists will stop preventing less biased studies from taking place on satisfaction levels after transition, so that we can all get the true picture.

It remains my understanding that suicide rates, not psychiatric treatment rates necessarily, are higher in people who have transitioned than in those who desist.

What study on suicide rates?

Shedmistress · 17/08/2026 09:23

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Shedmistress · 17/08/2026 09:22

Icelandicnights · 17/08/2026 09:15

Yeah where? What case? Facebook court?

You do know that instead of being on here all the time trying to get more kids who never develop adult bodies but have paperwork saying they are of the age of consent, you could just go follow a few court cases and see what is actually going on in the place we call 'reality'?

Icelandicnights · 17/08/2026 09:21

BackToLurk · 17/08/2026 09:16

A father is not medically qualified to procure cross-sex hormones for his ‘feminine’ son. The fact that in all your ‘you are making them do it” rhetoric you fail to mention this, is extremely revealing.

Duh. The point is the prevention of qualified advice from facebook numpties of all people.

Howlerhog · 17/08/2026 09:21

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What damage is done to kids by anti trans activism? The damage is done by the parents, gulling kids into thinking they can change sex. See all of the parents complaining that their boys were kicked out of Guides. Did any of them ever reflect and realise that THIS WAS THEIR FAULT for making their kids think they could change sex, when it’s impossible. It’s like flat-earthers complaining that their child failed A level geography. It’s on you as parents for feeding them shite!

Icelandicnights · 17/08/2026 09:18

NotBadConsidering · 17/08/2026 09:15

Attempting to refute anything with Erin in the Morning’s writings, a man who secretly wore his wife’s clothes before she divorced him, and someone who habitually lies, is certainly something.

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Shooting the messenger?

Please quote what part of the piece that is false. And no, the writer's private life doesn't invalidate facts.

ColorMeSurprised · 17/08/2026 09:16

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BackToLurk · 17/08/2026 09:16

Icelandicnights · 17/08/2026 09:09

Medical advice in general is based on professional opinion so this is no different.

A father is not medically qualified to procure cross-sex hormones for his ‘feminine’ son. The fact that in all your ‘you are making them do it” rhetoric you fail to mention this, is extremely revealing.

Imdunfer · 17/08/2026 09:16

I'm grateful for the update and hope that trans activists will stop preventing less biased studies from taking place on satisfaction levels after transition, so that we can all get the true picture.

It remains my understanding that suicide rates, not psychiatric treatment rates necessarily, are higher in people who have transitioned than in those who desist.

Icelandicnights · 17/08/2026 09:15

Shedmistress · 17/08/2026 09:12

Professional opinion backed by EVIDENCE as you mentioned.

When in court in the USA they cannot provide evidence even though they have been giving these off label drugs to kids for 30 years, deliberately not following up BECAUSE they know the evidence does not suport it. Hence having to admit in court they are just making the whole thing up.

Yeah where? What case? Facebook court?

NotBadConsidering · 17/08/2026 09:15

Attempting to refute anything with Erin in the Morning’s writings, a man who secretly wore his wife’s clothes before she divorced him, and someone who habitually lies, is certainly something.

Igmum · 17/08/2026 09:13

That is a horrific thread. And it may have been people like our drive by scolders telling lies about children committing suicide that pushed the father to this. We don’t know. What we do know is that there is a whole thread there queuing up to permanently damage this child. That is absolutely sick.

Shedmistress · 17/08/2026 09:12

Icelandicnights · 17/08/2026 09:09

Medical advice in general is based on professional opinion so this is no different.

Professional opinion backed by EVIDENCE as you mentioned.

When in court in the USA they cannot provide evidence even though they have been giving these off label drugs to kids for 30 years, deliberately not following up BECAUSE they know the evidence does not suport it. Hence having to admit in court they are just making the whole thing up.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 17/08/2026 09:12

Giving a healthy child drugs that will irreversibly damage their natural development under "a doctor's supervision" because their parents have fucked up ideas about how their natural body needs to be "fixed" to be acceptable is indeed morally and in many ways practically no different to performing FGM under "a doctor's supervision" because their parents have fucked up ideas about how their natural body needs to be "fixed" to be acceptable.

Thank you to PP for making that point.

Amd so very illustrative how simply "not accomodating fucked up ideas about how a child's natural body needs to be "fixed" to be acceptable" isn't even on their radar.

Icelandicnights · 17/08/2026 09:09

Shedmistress · 17/08/2026 09:04

By this you mean WPATH's admittance that their whole schtick is literally 'opinions'?

Which evidence is lacking exactly, these drugs do exactly what they say on the tin, they block puberty leaving basically underdeveloped bodies and minds with a consentual age on their paperwork?

Medical advice in general is based on professional opinion so this is no different.

Geronimode · 17/08/2026 09:09

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 16/08/2026 23:13

It has absolutely nothing to do with you. His child is trans, and he's trying to help her access care which would pause puberty, giving her time to grow up and decide if she wants to proceed with transition.

I wouldn't condone him doing it without medical supervision, because not every trans kid is suitable. They aren't handed out like Smarties at gender clinics.

Puberty blockers have been used for decades on cis children experiencing precocious puberty - and they're still being given now. It's a proven medication.

Leave the poor family alone, and maybe reflect on the damage done to trans children by anti-trans activism. This dad is trying to save his child's life because she's been denied even the basics of care here. Trans kids don't even get proper counselling despite being in deep distress and suffering horrendous bullying.

There are kids dying all over the world, why not try saving them instead? This one has a parent who loves them. Even if he doesn't succeed, that child has a massively increased chance of making it to adulthood because she knows her dad loves her.

sterilising queer kids isn’t the life saving kindness big pharma would have you believe