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Loyle Carner & JKR

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CarotidFartery · 15/08/2026 10:17

Picked up a car of teens from Boardmasters last week and was really bothered to overhear some of their conversations.

Among the over stimulated wittering they were talking about how much they liked Loyle Carner and they loved it when he shouted that he hated Nigel Farage and the crowd roared, and then when he shouted about hating JKR and everyone whooped.

I was 🤨 and pointed out that rabble rousing and shouting about 'hating' specific people should generally be avoided. There were some mutterings about her deserving it and then the conversation moved on.

I chose my moment to broach the subject with the teen that belongs to me this week. They doubled down a bit and said, "but isnt she racist and homophobic and transphobic?" So we had a conversation about not forming our opinions from myth and rumour, and maybe pondering why a middle aged feminist was the priority for slagging off to a crowd of impressionable teens. Of all the people in all the world to raise a rabble against?!

I have googled and it seems this is an integral part of his act. There doesn't seem to be much commentary about it online though.

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CarotidFartery · 15/08/2026 10:59

SwirlyGates · 15/08/2026 10:40

I've never heard of him, but from what you say it sounds like he's telling them what they want to hear. I wonder what would happen if he (and others like him) praised JKR for standing up for women. Would there be teens in the audience who actually know the facts and would have the courage to say, "Yes, he's right," or would he get booed himself?

I did point out that a person who has single handedly funded a women's refuge and support service, and founded Lumos for disadvantaged children is not the most obvious candidate for a public slagging off.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/08/2026 10:59

SwirlyGates · 15/08/2026 10:40

I've never heard of him, but from what you say it sounds like he's telling them what they want to hear. I wonder what would happen if he (and others like him) praised JKR for standing up for women. Would there be teens in the audience who actually know the facts and would have the courage to say, "Yes, he's right," or would he get booed himself?

Indeed. Hardly courageous truth telling, just bandwagon jumping.

CarotidFartery · 15/08/2026 10:57

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/08/2026 10:50

What was the outcome of the conversation? How is she “racist”, I’m imagining it’s some nonsense about Harry Potter characters.

There was absolutely nothing to the alleged isms/phobias except 'someone said she did/is'

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/08/2026 10:50

What was the outcome of the conversation? How is she “racist”, I’m imagining it’s some nonsense about Harry Potter characters.

SwirlyGates · 15/08/2026 10:40

I've never heard of him, but from what you say it sounds like he's telling them what they want to hear. I wonder what would happen if he (and others like him) praised JKR for standing up for women. Would there be teens in the audience who actually know the facts and would have the courage to say, "Yes, he's right," or would he get booed himself?