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IPSOS Pride report 2026

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ArabellaScott · 13/08/2026 19:29

https://www.ipsos.com/en/ipsos-pride-report-2026

'Where we continue to find diverging views is on transgender access to single-sex facilities, healthcare provision and participation in sport.'

Ipsos' annual global report looks like it's showing steady support for LGB people, and support for anti discrimination, but declining support for T people getting everything they want whenever they want.

(Report was released in July)

Ipsos Pride Report 2026

Our 2026 edition of the Ipsos LGBT+ Pride report shows attitudes stabilising across 26 countries on several key measures, including trans athletes and LGBT media representation.

https://www.ipsos.com/en/ipsos-pride-report-2026

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DrBlackbird · 14/08/2026 18:08

MarieDeGournay · 14/08/2026 12:23

Thank you for all this, Arabella and Red, really informative and useful!
It counters the accusation that lesbian and gay rights are under threat where opposition to the excesses of gender ideology is strongest.
LGB✂T.

Given the reality denying TRAs antics and the increasingly visible and unreasonable demands led by men with questionable and sometimes violent histories, I was worried LGB people would face greater discrimination or intolerance because of the forced teaming.

It’s a relief to read that the actually quite tolerant British nature remains LGB accepting (as it should) and hope that there is greater recognition of LGB✂T.

ArabellaScott · 14/08/2026 18:04

Women's shelters are just not nice things to think about or talk about. They are not media friendly, they are sad and troubling things to think about. They reveal the horror of what happens to women at the hands of men, every day. Nobody wants to think about it, on the whole.

Anyway. That's depressed me.

Back to the survey.

The most interesting thing about it, I think, is the nuance that Red points to. It shows that the UK is far from being the fascist pit of homophobia that trans activists have attempted to portray. On the contrary, the UK is among the most accepting and tolerant of LGB people.

The gap (growing gap elsewhere, but really marked in the UK) between that and the acceptance of 'trans' self ID, puberty blockers, and access to single sex spaces is very telling.

These issues are not the same.

The 'T' is different from the LGB.

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ArabellaScott · 14/08/2026 17:59

Heggettypeg · 14/08/2026 16:36

I have a theory about this , though I may be wrong:

I think a lot of people are very familiar with the idea of a "women's refuge" as something set up by and for women, and ditto rape trauma support, but less aware that there are also men being helped to escape domestic violence and recover from sexual assault.

So the picture in their minds of a transwoman excluded from those places is not of someone who can, and would be, helped elsewhere, but of a victim left with nowhere to turn.

I think it's probably a bit of a mix.

However - sport is a 'men's issue'. Men talk about it, read about it, care about it. Half the fecking news is taken up with sportsball, and its seen as an acceptable topic for discussion.

I wonder if the whole premise of sport (sublimated aggression, competition as a playful means of fighting) means it's also seen as more acceptable for 'robust' views. Men can whang on for hours about what is and isn't fair, and they are far more relaxed about hurting people's feelings.

Women's dv shelters ... I'm sorry, this will sound harsh, but most people and especially men, just don't care. Most people think abuse is a very niche issue, that women who experience it are generally partly at fault themselves for getting into the situation. It's not that they don't care that men are accessing the service, it's that they don't care about the women using it in the first place.

They are also seen as a 'women's issue'. Women are, on the whole, firstly more 'be kind' and considerate of vulnerable men, and secondly more likely to attract attacks and opprobrium if they speak up.

Remember the woman who stood up and called 'shame' on Nicola Sturgeon?

https://news.sky.com/story/shame-on-you-nicola-sturgeon-heckled-over-scottish-government-gender-reforms-12758613

Exceptional, and exceptionally brave. Look at what happened to Roz Adams.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6248z383x7o

As has been said before, women on this board are often especially gender non conforming, and a big part of that is that many are less concerned about being 'agreeable' and displaying the 'masculine' traits that distinguish us from a doormat.

Another issue is visibility. Sports is full of photos, we have astonishing visuals of Lia Thomas, that weightlifter bloke, Fallon Fox, the lanky Aussie footballer, the Italian/Irish bald footballer, Iman Khelif. These are (aside from the fat weightlifter) big, burly, healthy, muscly, men wearing lycra and sweating and being photographed and filmed from every angle in bright daylight.

For obvious reasons, women in shelters are not in the papers, not talking about the issues. Nobody is photographing the men accessing women's shelters unless they are subsequently on trial (Katie Dolatowski, Barbie Kardashian, Cameron Downing, etc).

Roz Adams, wearing glasses and looking straight into the camera. She is standing in a park.

Edinburgh rape crisis worker constructively dismissed to receive £70,000

The Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre must also publicly apologise to Roz Adams who was unlawfully dismissed over her gender-critical beliefs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6248z383x7o

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AimsAndObjectives · 14/08/2026 17:53

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 14/08/2026 17:14

Sounds very like the Tit for Tat strategy in action, if the men who are cheating go back to not cheating the men who objected to their cheating would go back to not caring. Because as you say they don't care about the effect the cheating has on women or sport, they just care about themselves losing out in some perceived way because they're not cheating.

Yes, I think it is that whole 'male hierarchy' thing that men immerse themselves in. They seem to relate to each other very much through that lens. However, when I dug a bit deeper, they were able to understand why women might need or want single-sex sports and spaces. They had simply accepted their existence, without really questioning why we need them. So, hopefully, they have learnt something. Tbf, I think a lot of the silly women who support this stupidity have never really had cause to understand why we need these spaces too.

ArabellaScott · 14/08/2026 17:47

Also;

'Women are less keen on public kissing
A closer look at the data on attitudes to open-air kissing reveals some groups are considerably more likely to be comfortable than others with a public smooch.
75% of men think kissing without tongues in public is acceptable, but just 62% of women agree. Young people are significantly more likely than older groups to be comfortable with it – eight in ten (78%) 18 to 24s are fine with a public kiss, compared to six in ten (58%) of those aged 55 and above.
Kissing with tongues is where Britons draw the line – though again, age and gender makes a considerable difference to people’s views on the matter. One in five men (20%) are comfortable with it, compared to just one in eleven women (9%). 18 to 24 year olds are three times more likely than those aged 55 and above to think it’s acceptable (20% vs 6%).'

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ArabellaScott · 14/08/2026 17:47

user1471538275 · 14/08/2026 17:15

@gayhistorynerd I have a sneaking suspicion that many people are against all public displays of affection, same sex or not.

Yes, its likely higher against same sex, but I do wonder what the percentage would be for mixed sex PDAs

Of course, because its grotty to see people necking in public.

A wee kiss is fine. But I don't want to see tongues slobbering about and enthusiastic grappling.

I suppose it's a sPeCtruuuum ...

https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/22408-one-ten-britons-offended-public-hugging

'Kissing in public is fine with most Brits - so long as you keep your tongue in your mouth
A huge majority of 92% of Britons say holding hands in public is acceptable, and 90% say the same for hugging.
Two thirds are also comfortable with people around them kissing without tongues (68%). But going translating your kiss into French risks disapproving looks, as just one in six (15%) are comfortable with people kissing with tongues in public.'

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heathspeedwell · 14/08/2026 17:42

It's great to see that despite the very heavily biased wording of this survey, it's yet another professional poll that shows the vast majority of people in the UK want single sex spaces.

Why aren't more politicians taking this on board?

user1471538275 · 14/08/2026 17:15

@gayhistorynerd I have a sneaking suspicion that many people are against all public displays of affection, same sex or not.

Yes, its likely higher against same sex, but I do wonder what the percentage would be for mixed sex PDAs

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 14/08/2026 17:14

AimsAndObjectives · 14/08/2026 16:47

I think that is plausible @Heggettypeg .

Wrt sport, questioning of my male relatives revealed that it is not so much the threat to women's sport that they object to, rather it is that men do not like other men being given an unfair advantage. They object to the cheating that might lead to them getting medals that other men would not be able to get. It was a similar story with single-sex spaces. It wasn't the unfairness or threat to women that immediately bothered them, it was the fact that the sacred caste was being allowed to go somewhere that other men weren't allowed (even though the other men did not actually want to go there!).

I thought that they were interesting insights, though from an incredibly small and unrepresentative sample.

Sounds very like the Tit for Tat strategy in action, if the men who are cheating go back to not cheating the men who objected to their cheating would go back to not caring. Because as you say they don't care about the effect the cheating has on women or sport, they just care about themselves losing out in some perceived way because they're not cheating.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/08/2026 17:08

Heggettypeg · 14/08/2026 16:36

I have a theory about this , though I may be wrong:

I think a lot of people are very familiar with the idea of a "women's refuge" as something set up by and for women, and ditto rape trauma support, but less aware that there are also men being helped to escape domestic violence and recover from sexual assault.

So the picture in their minds of a transwoman excluded from those places is not of someone who can, and would be, helped elsewhere, but of a victim left with nowhere to turn.

It’s what I think they think too.

Howlerhog · 14/08/2026 17:00

Having worked in a uni and having friends who work in the NHS I am shocked at how many workplaces fail to keep abreast of the privately held views of their employees and just go along with whatever their “LGBT allies network” (god I loathe that terminology) tell them is the right thing to do. It will be a cold day in hell before I put my ‘pronouns in bio’ or wear a trans pride lanyard. Pride, yup I’m cool with that. Trans? FO!

Howlerhog · 14/08/2026 16:56

RedToothBrush · 14/08/2026 11:12

I would suggest the UK has a very supportive live and let live attitude overall but a 'don't take the fucking piss out of me and treat me like a bloody gullible fool' cavet to that.

Hell yeh! The TRAs taking the piss in the past few years have done trans people no favours whatsoever. No trans person I know wants to use the bathroom / sport of the sex they identify into. They just want to get accepted in the bathroom of their bio sex.

AimsAndObjectives · 14/08/2026 16:47

I think that is plausible @Heggettypeg .

Wrt sport, questioning of my male relatives revealed that it is not so much the threat to women's sport that they object to, rather it is that men do not like other men being given an unfair advantage. They object to the cheating that might lead to them getting medals that other men would not be able to get. It was a similar story with single-sex spaces. It wasn't the unfairness or threat to women that immediately bothered them, it was the fact that the sacred caste was being allowed to go somewhere that other men weren't allowed (even though the other men did not actually want to go there!).

I thought that they were interesting insights, though from an incredibly small and unrepresentative sample.

Heggettypeg · 14/08/2026 16:36

ArabellaScott · 14/08/2026 08:12

Isn't it. Always astonished people are more firm on men in women's sport than they are on men in women's rape support services and dv shelters.

I have a theory about this , though I may be wrong:

I think a lot of people are very familiar with the idea of a "women's refuge" as something set up by and for women, and ditto rape trauma support, but less aware that there are also men being helped to escape domestic violence and recover from sexual assault.

So the picture in their minds of a transwoman excluded from those places is not of someone who can, and would be, helped elsewhere, but of a victim left with nowhere to turn.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 14/08/2026 16:20

ArabellaScott · 14/08/2026 16:06

Article on Thailand's attitudes to LGBT etc.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly92g14edro

Interesting! someone mentioned up thread, or possibly on another thread altogether, that Ladyboys were a part of their culture and had been for a long time. I wonder if the same sex marriage will change that, if gay men can now have relations in the open will the numbers of Ladyboys drop.

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Heggettypeg · 14/08/2026 14:58

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 14/08/2026 14:46

Quite.

I am reminded of the piss protests on the front of the EHRC offices, the moob protests somewhere in London, not to mention the terrorist threats and threats of violence, some of which forced THE ENTIRE EHRC TO MOVE THEIR OFFICES TO A SECRET LOCATION. (I am still stunned that a) this happened and b) the media seem uninterested in this horrendous behaviour).

I wonder if any arrests have been made relating to this yet? The Met seem quite fast to apprehend other online criminals.

Yes, the apparent complacent acceptance of this is very odd indeed.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 14/08/2026 14:46

RedToothBrush · 14/08/2026 11:14

Probably driven by the antics of the batshit activists themselves.

Quite.

I am reminded of the piss protests on the front of the EHRC offices, the moob protests somewhere in London, not to mention the terrorist threats and threats of violence, some of which forced THE ENTIRE EHRC TO MOVE THEIR OFFICES TO A SECRET LOCATION. (I am still stunned that a) this happened and b) the media seem uninterested in this horrendous behaviour).

I wonder if any arrests have been made relating to this yet? The Met seem quite fast to apprehend other online criminals.

ItsCoolForCats · 14/08/2026 13:24

OtherS · 14/08/2026 13:16

I believe the Thai notion of transwomen is very different to ours. The ladyboys are a big part of their culture, and when I was there the people I spoke to about how 'our' trans behaved were pretty shocked. It's a pretty small sample though tbh, I was on holiday so wasn't interrogating the locals!

I remember reading before that the majority of them are attracted to other men. Basically they are effeminate gay men, which many women don't perceive to have the same threat level as other men.

I'm not sure if middle age men donning a wig and calling themselves lesbians (see
Melissa Poulton) is a thing in Thailand as it is here.

OtherS · 14/08/2026 13:16

I believe the Thai notion of transwomen is very different to ours. The ladyboys are a big part of their culture, and when I was there the people I spoke to about how 'our' trans behaved were pretty shocked. It's a pretty small sample though tbh, I was on holiday so wasn't interrogating the locals!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/08/2026 12:35

RedToothBrush · 14/08/2026 11:12

I would suggest the UK has a very supportive live and let live attitude overall but a 'don't take the fucking piss out of me and treat me like a bloody gullible fool' cavet to that.

Exactly this.

MarieDeGournay · 14/08/2026 12:23

Thank you for all this, Arabella and Red, really informative and useful!
It counters the accusation that lesbian and gay rights are under threat where opposition to the excesses of gender ideology is strongest.
LGB✂T.

JellySaurus · 14/08/2026 11:49

RedToothBrush · 14/08/2026 10:50

Is sport a priority for basement dwelling computer nerds and anime fans who hate their bodies? (Genuine question)

Its only of interest to a certain degree to this group and its more about it being a tool for general legitimacy.

The reason we have been dubbed Terf Island is over where the UK differs significantly on opinion about access to single sex spaces. Its the only area where we stand out as having a particularly nuanced conversation compared to other countries - and its not as if this conversation is none existent in other places.

This opens up other questions about why this particular conversation is the one that's causing the drama. The UK actually is scoring 74% in favour of support for protections for transpeople. Thats just ONE PERCENT less than Ireland and EXACTLY THE SAME as Australia.

This idea that the UK is dangerous for trans people is just not consistent with this polling. If we go on following TRA doctrine Turkiye scores well and thats just nuts when you look at opposition to transrights there.

Turkiye has by far the highest opposition to protections.

The UK on the other hand has one of the lowest levels of opposition to protections. As does Sweden and France.

Given the screams of 'genocide' and the UK not being safe for trans people this data simply doesn't match the reality of public opinion.

You have to remember that in Transwonderland words mean different things. In Transwonderland genocide no more means ‘deliberate mass-murder of an ethnic group’, than woman means ‘adult female human’.

RedToothBrush · 14/08/2026 11:14

Probably driven by the antics of the batshit activists themselves.