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Civil servants oppose plans to end trans reassignment leave policy

164 replies

Whattheflush · 10/08/2026 21:04

Oh for gods SAKE. The tide is turning but it feels like the wane is ever so slow.

Civil servants fight plan to scrap trans ‘reassignment leave’

www.thetimes.com/article/8b46e972-e753-4e32-94ce-04dd09a1bbd5?shareToken=b264d0a693114f10740e3ee99ed1f882

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pontefractals · 10/08/2026 21:37

MakesNoDifference · 10/08/2026 21:33

Not permitting time off could be gender reassignment discrimination

I don't think it could; wouldn't the comparator in this case be a person without the protected characteristic of gender reassignment asking for paid and not-counted-for-disciplinary-purposes time off for elective cosmetic surgery? I wouldn't expect that one to fly.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 10/08/2026 21:34

MakesNoDifference · 10/08/2026 21:33

Not permitting time off could be gender reassignment discrimination

Take it to court then.

DosPerros · 10/08/2026 21:34

I thought you had to be quite clever to work for the Civil Service. Perhaps not

MakesNoDifference · 10/08/2026 21:33

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 10/08/2026 21:32

My objection is to people being allowed special leave for recovery from cosmetic surgery. This is no more justified than special leave for recovery from a facelift.

Not permitting time off could be gender reassignment discrimination

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 10/08/2026 21:32

GCornotGCthatisthequestion · 10/08/2026 21:06

What is your objection to people being allowed time off to recover from surgery?

My objection is to people being allowed special leave for recovery from cosmetic surgery. This is no more justified than special leave for recovery from a facelift.

BunfightBetty · 10/08/2026 21:28

There should be a level playing field in the way that absence for surgery is treated across the board. No favouritism or sacred castes, thank you very much.

Imdunfer · 10/08/2026 21:25

GCornotGCthatisthequestion · 10/08/2026 21:06

What is your objection to people being allowed time off to recover from surgery?

i don't have any. I have an objection to trans people being allowed paid time off for recovery from surgery that a cancer victim working for the same employer would not be allowed under the sickness and absence policy.

minisoksmakehardwork · 10/08/2026 21:25

I imagine a lot of the pushback will be coming from HR managers who have had to give their employees written warnings for too much time off sick for things like cancer treatment - yes, the CS will give a sick warning to a cancer patient if they’ve had too many days off. Even if it’s for active treatment. As soon as you reach trigger point, it doesn’t matter if you’re having daily treatment, appointments and follow ups. You get a written warning for sick. And whilst verbally everyone knows it’s a crock of crap, managers still have to comply with policy. Their judgement is not considered good enough. It has resulted in people coming back too soon and then hitting the double whammy as their recovery is hampered by having come back too soon and then being considered as having taken 2 lots of sick leave in a short space of time.

Whattheflush · 10/08/2026 21:19

GCornotGCthatisthequestion · 10/08/2026 21:06

What is your objection to people being allowed time off to recover from surgery?

@MrsOvertonsWindow Says it better than me. It's as much the flouncy threat to take the civil service off the list of so called inclusive employers. That still reeks of Stonewall's dead hand on employers when it should simply be: employers who follow the law.

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RedToothBrush · 10/08/2026 21:16

It should just be about fitness to work due to surgery. No statutory set period for transition. They aren't having a baby.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 10/08/2026 21:15

Good to see that the equality aspect of this is what's brought it to an end. Presumably civil servants with serious illnesses, possibly life limiting, looked at trans colleagues getting an extra 13 weeks before sick pay kicks in and made complaints?

No more sacred castes. No more special treatment. No more special privileges.
Time to be part of the community, the workplace and accept the same rights that everyone else has.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 10/08/2026 21:14

Until now, transgender employees could take up to 13 weeks of special leave in a rolling 12-month period for medical treatment and recovery related to gender identity without it being counted as sick leave.

The objection as far as I'm concerned is that I don't think anybody should be having surgery for a psychological issue, and providing this very generous paid leave makes it more likely that some civil servants will go down that path. Looking specifically at surgery on the genital area, there's a high risk of post-operative infection and complications, and the end results are really nothing like the real thing. If I ruled the world all that surgery would be banned.

GCornotGCthatisthequestion · 10/08/2026 21:06

What is your objection to people being allowed time off to recover from surgery?

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