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JKR offers to fund any nurse or female patient legal fees

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Imdunfer · 10/08/2026 14:54

JKR, in the wake of health authorities failing to implement the single sex space laws, has offered to fund the legal case of any female nurse or patient who wants to sue their health authority.

I love that woman!

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KindViper · 11/08/2026 06:43

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lifeinthelastlane · 11/08/2026 06:52

Easy way for the NHS to save money would be to actually implement the law and avoid being sued

FourSevenFive · 11/08/2026 06:55

What's going on here?

The whole time after the FWS the key point for delaying implementation was "waiting for the new guidance" - and now when it is out we hear "it is only a guidance"?

So law wasn't enough, court claryifying the law wasn't enough and now goverment's implementation guide (saying the same thing) isn't enough either?

KindViper · 11/08/2026 06:59

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FourSevenFive · 11/08/2026 07:02

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If there is nothing against the law, why are the nurses winning lawsuits?

Helleofabore · 11/08/2026 07:08

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You seem to be artificially limiting the ‘law’ to criminal law when you try to deflect into ‘offence’

And I think you mistake who is desperate ideologically driven group.

The law is clear. That is what should be being followed regardless of whether someone believes the guidance is useful or not. Any male person who accesses a female single sex provision can be banned and excluded from a venue if they refuse to follow the policy of the organisation who manages the venue. And the organisation must follow the law as regards to provision of facilities.

Workplaces, which also covers the workplace of nursing staff, do have an obligation when they reach a particular size. And under that law, nurses can take their employers to tribunal to get the law enforced.

There is also no moral justification for the NHS to not enforce single sex provisions ‘because they have no funds’. What other employment provisions should the NHS be excused from following just because of ‘no funds’. It is not the moral argument you have relied on.

You seem to be one who avoids facts and is ideologically driven, so I just assume you are projecting now.

The ‘law’ does not merely cover criminal law. But I suspect you have had this explained to you in the past and just ignored it.

Myalternate · 11/08/2026 07:13

IF, the NHS is following the law as you claim, then they’ve nothing to worry about.
Being tested in Court would only prove your point wouldn’t it?

You understand that I’m sure.

TeaAndStrumpets · 11/08/2026 07:15

FourSevenFive · 11/08/2026 06:55

What's going on here?

The whole time after the FWS the key point for delaying implementation was "waiting for the new guidance" - and now when it is out we hear "it is only a guidance"?

So law wasn't enough, court claryifying the law wasn't enough and now goverment's implementation guide (saying the same thing) isn't enough either?

Heartily agree. These excuses are getting tedious.

I used to get this when my kids were trying to delay bedtime.

KindViper · 11/08/2026 07:18

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KindViper · 11/08/2026 07:19

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 11/08/2026 07:22

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Always the desperate swerve to toilets - no mention of hospital wards, showers, changing rooms .There's a reason for that.

The NHS is spending millions on DEI stuff - so much of it completely divotced from any impact on patient care (tho numerous colourful lanyards, flags, crossings and paint visible).
The men must have access to women's wards policies (based on the Stonewall fake law) that have contributed to women being assaulted and raped in hospital include a number of Trusts who wrote policies to ensure that male sex offenders could also have access to vulnerable women in wards.
That's how fucked up the NHS is about the demands of predatory men.

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/healthcare/article/trans-sex-offenders-can-go-on-womens-wards-hospitals-advise-0fmbhm3bn

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https://www.thetimes.com/uk/healthcare/article/trans-sex-offenders-can-go-on-womens-wards-hospitals-advise-0fmbhm3bn

Myalternate · 11/08/2026 07:22

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Bollocks.

UrOutdoors · 11/08/2026 07:23

She’s amazing.

sanluca · 11/08/2026 07:23

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It i exactly the same. Both are suing because the NHS did something wrong. Both cost the NHS money. You actually think you can just ignore the law as an employer or service provider? Of course not. Ignoring laws just because you don't like them, can land you in court.

All this emotive language because you feel women shouldn't have the human right to dignity, safety and privacy.

KindViper · 11/08/2026 07:24

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Helleofabore · 11/08/2026 07:24

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Howse that proportionate argument working for you?

KindViper · 11/08/2026 07:25

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KindViper · 11/08/2026 07:28

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NoWordForFluffy · 11/08/2026 07:28

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You're the one who doesn't understand the actual law, so I'd be careful about throwing insults!

Facilities which are provided as single sex are based on biological sex, that was the SC judgment.

A provider can provide single user / unisex facilities.

Nobody has the right to use the facilities of the opposite sex. The SC judgment even covered transmen who pass.

I'd suggest you go back to re-read it, but I suspect you've never read it, you've just read an inaccurate summarisation of it.

Sorry (not sorry), lads, you can't go in the ladies!

Myalternate · 11/08/2026 07:29

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I read your words, and instead of repeating the excellent responses by others, I chose to summarise my reply with one word.

NoWordForFluffy · 11/08/2026 07:31

Myalternate · 11/08/2026 07:29

I read your words, and instead of repeating the excellent responses by others, I chose to summarise my reply with one word.

I thought it was succinct and to the point. And, more importantly, correct! Unlike our legally incorrect visitor.

Myalternate · 11/08/2026 07:32

Trans ‘women’ are men.

Fiftyandme · 11/08/2026 07:33

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 11/08/2026 03:22

You approve of taking money from an institution which can't pay for sexually abused kids to have psychiatric counselling?

Which practices corridor care because there's no cash to pay for extra staff?

Which can't implement this guidance because it's already at breaking point regarding number of staffed beds? Right before the winter bugs hit?

Jesus. Wards are heavily supervised and all have male staff. The moment you can leave your bed and walk they start the process of discharging you. And Intensive Care has so few beds it cannot possibly follow this - one more time - guidance.

A billionaire using her cash like this - instead of, say, helping CAMHS save those raped kids - is obscene.

The money is set aside already. Because they expect to be sued - mainly because of botched maternity and l&d care.

HermioneWeasley · 11/08/2026 07:33

Myalternate · 11/08/2026 07:29

I read your words, and instead of repeating the excellent responses by others, I chose to summarise my reply with one word.

It was the perfect dismissal of complete nonsense.

every word of it utter bollocks, albeit carefully crafted to look superficially plausible to people who don’t know the law and haven’t read the SC judgment.

@KindViper women have rights. Get over it.

KindViper · 11/08/2026 07:35

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